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Re: “That $4.4 Million TUSD Raise . . . What Does That Amount To Per Tucson Adult?

Transparency has apparently always been a problem with TUSD central offices, and especially within decisions involving personnel (i.e., salaries) and finances. But front line teaching jobs are not easy at all, tough and getting tougher; these people really deserve a raise some years. And BTW & IMO, these TW TUSD articles are good, better than past years, and I like it when a writer jumps into the comments section with the rest of us unruly citizens. Most don't dare.

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Posted by ay te wacho on 12/15/2014 at 7:46 AM

Re: “A Breakdown And Explanation Of The TUSD Pay Raises

"Why a person who works with columns of numbers makes more than a person who teaches a classroom of children, or drives a bus full of children, is a mystery to me. "

This point of view is a mystery to me. The answer is because there are more available teachers and bus drivers than accountants. Want to make more money than a teacher? Go into accounting. Not saying it's fair or right: teachers should make enough to support themselves. They have a union to help with that.

Compensation is based on supply and demand, not arbitrary opinions of value. Teachers are wonderful, but who is to say teaching adds so much more value to society than accounting? The bean counters get no respect, but Accounting is necessary to the existence of all organizations. Double-entry book-keeping was one of the inventions that led to the establishment of modern trade and the subsequent Renaissance.

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Posted by bslap on 12/15/2014 at 7:36 AM

Re: “That $4.4 Million TUSD Raise . . . What Does That Amount To Per Tucson Adult?

Just out of curiosity, Guiseppe, how much contact do you actually have with TUSD schools? Do you have a student in one? Its hard to believe that anyone who did would use words like "entitled"....entitled to what? A salary that allows you WIC benefits? Paying more than a thousand dollars out of your own pocket to cover supplies for your classroom? Or is it that crushing walls-closing-in feeling, between supervisors with charts and tests that need to be bubbled in and kids with needs to learn so much more than that that teachers in TUSD are entitled to?

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Posted by Betts Putnam-Hidalgo on 12/15/2014 at 7:05 AM

Re: “A Slice of Arizona

On Friday at 6 pm, the two of us waited only 20 minutes. We got the margherita and the wiseguy, and the pizza was legitimately good. One thing about this review, it kind of implies that Bianco has restaurants in California, rather than just tomatoes grown there.

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Posted by Jolus41 on 12/15/2014 at 6:53 AM

Re: “That $4.4 Million TUSD Raise . . . What Does That Amount To Per Tucson Adult?

Not only do the waste money and have a much higher percentage of administration than other districts, but your $11 per person is seriously flawed. The majority in our community wouldn't pay that if anything. The brunt is born by those that actually pay the taxes. That is a distinct minority. And if money for the schools equaled performance than the D.C. school district would be stellar. It is funny how those on the left decry capitalism but crave the money generated from it.

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Posted by Doug Martin on 12/15/2014 at 6:17 AM

Re: “A Breakdown And Explanation Of The TUSD Pay Raises

Great idea Michael. Thanks.

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Posted by Rat T on 12/14/2014 at 8:59 PM

Re: “Nook to Bring Brunch with Hawaiian Flavor to Congress Street

Looking forward to the theme, but are huevos rancheros considered unique in Tucson?

Posted by Keifer Huntley on 12/14/2014 at 8:53 PM

Re: “A Slice of Arizona

With the excellent pizza in Tucson (to name a few: Reilly, Falora, Time Market), it is beyond absurd to wait two hours for the privilege of ordering a pizza.

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Posted by DRW on 12/14/2014 at 2:57 PM

Re: “PDQ Records is Open Again Under Original Ownership

Wow, Ms Griffin, the property taxes in Tucson must be very low, my taxes in Oro Valley would not allow a 4 year vacancy! What. Ever. I plan to spend truck load of money on vinyl in 2015 and will haunt the PDQ!!

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Posted by Gandalf the over taxed on 12/14/2014 at 1:03 PM

Re: “A conversation With Diane Ravitch At UA Sunday, December 14

David: Is this being recorded.? I'd like to have been there but live in Prescott (but follow your comments on the Range) would like to see it - You Tube or whatever

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Posted by Michael S. Ellegood on 12/14/2014 at 12:13 PM

Re: “Grijalva on CROmnibus: GOP Is "Using a Potential Crisis With the Federal Government To Hurt Working Families"

The bill also increased the amount of money that individuals can give to political parties - anybody else think there is too much money from special interests as it is?
The bill also bought more F-35's that the Pentagon did not request.
The bill also cut WIC funding.

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Posted by Michael S. Ellegood on 12/14/2014 at 12:09 PM

Re: “That $4.4 Million TUSD Raise . . . What Does That Amount To Per Tucson Adult?

MOST of Who agrees they are Underpaid? I dont AGREE.. I think they are Overpaid Prima Donnas who arent doing their Job worth a Hoot. Worse School District in Arizona - Racist, Incompetent and Lousy Entitled Whiners.. Thats why I vote NO on ANY money (overrides, bonds) for TUSD. No way No How am I rewarding another Grijalva led Racist Boondoggle.

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Posted by GuiseppeKnows on 12/14/2014 at 3:50 AM

Re: “Reforma Cocina y Cantina Brings Upscale Central Mexican Fare and 229 Agave Spirits to St. Philip’s Plaza

I tend to believe that the best Mexican food is probably not made by people named things like Krueger and Dick...or in the Foothills.

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Posted by aznemesis on 12/13/2014 at 9:02 PM

Re: “PDQ Records is Open Again Under Original Ownership

Gandalf... it's easily possible to let it sit when you ALREADY OWN the building... the land.... and all the contents inside! ;o)
WORD ~

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Posted by Catherine Griffin on 12/13/2014 at 5:17 PM

Re: “Danehy

Well said, Vince. I touched upon the same thing 2 weeks ago. You can talk facts until you're blue in the face to Tom and his ilk. It just won't sink in. He let me down again this week. So what's wrong with working in Denny's? Maybe,with this wonderful Obummer econemy, it's all a person can find. Maybe some people simply aren't that bright. Not everyone is blessed with the brains your 2 kids have. Better they should sit on their asses waiting for a Gov't check? I don't think so. And what the Hell did Ayn Rand do? The poor woman is dead and buried. Give her a break.

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Posted by CW13 on 12/13/2014 at 1:35 PM

Re: “Something Sweet Dessert Lounge Is Closing

It says here that it closed June, 2014.

http://somethingsweet-dl.com

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Posted by Heather on 12/13/2014 at 11:59 AM

Re: “Something Sweet Dessert Lounge Is Closing

That other person is right. It did not in 2011. I went there January of 2014. It was just in this past year (2014) that it actually closed. Kinda strange that this article was published in 2011.

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Posted by Heather on 12/13/2014 at 11:54 AM

Re: “That $4.4 Million TUSD Raise . . . What Does That Amount To Per Tucson Adult?

From the perspective of a huge supporter of teacher/staff raises, the issue of "TUSD would not put the money into raises" SHOULD be considered by the Board. Financial transparency is not a hallmark of this administration (or any)--the difference is that to varying degrees, we have had Board members that actually demanded accountability. The general taxpayers still don't know the funding for the pre-schools, still don't know what happened to Title One funds and still don't have a good feeling about money that goes to TUSD, I fear. For the life of me I can't figure out why this isn't seen as TUSD's number one accounting and public relations problem to be solved. Like all politicians, it seems that the Board and the Supe are depending on us to have no memory come the next Bond or override request. PLEASE if I am wrong, PROVE ME SO by increasing transparency enough to honestly WIN that next override request.

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Posted by Betts Putnam-Hidalgo on 12/13/2014 at 11:21 AM

Re: “A Breakdown And Explanation Of The TUSD Pay Raises

Just as "We don't want to" doesn't constitute a legal argument (about the State paying back TUSD and other districts the money that it has been stealing over the years) Sanchez' "We will have the money" doesn't constitute financial security. In fact, it is amazing to me how often his words, like the Kool Aid they represent, work as a palliative for otherwise thinking and analytical people. That said, its obvious that the teachers and the rest of the site based staff desperately need more for what they do. Why a person who works with columns of numbers makes more than a person who teaches a classroom of children, or drives a bus full of children, is a mystery to me. One profession makes more money for someone, the other makes more of a future for many. The salary difference is obviously arbitrary and not based on any real sense of value.

If you were at or listening to the meeting, you might have noticed that the vote revolved around framing more than anything. As usual, Stegeman was set up as being anti-worker on this vote, when his comments actually reflected that selling this package as a secure one was the problem, not this years' raise. As it is, the Board votes on the annual raises, so I suspect that although none of the sitting members had the cojones to admit it, they ultimately voted for Stegeman's proposal and not theirs. That is, he proposed a payout this year without making commitments for the following years because there is no reason to believe that we will have the money. In the future, school funding being what it is in Arizona, voting for teacher/staff salaries may well depend on what programs or buildings the school board is willing to close to maintain them. Given their past turnarounds on school closures and some of their statements on MAS, when the going gets rough, teachers/site staff may well be the losers.

Finally, it would be interesting to know if anyone suggested that the raises only apply to those below a certain level of salary. The complicated discussion that Safier cites about compression etc. should have been accompanied by a similar conversation about raises that Directors and others have received as their positions were re-posted (there has been a HUGE turnover at 1010) and (unapproved) $10,000 bonuses they are getting this year for the first time in their contracts. But that wouldn't have been Kool-Aid.

(Sorry for such a long post!)

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Posted by Betts Putnam-Hidalgo on 12/13/2014 at 11:08 AM

Re: “Charter School Funding, District School Funding

I am so glad we can support for-profit corporate schools and pseudo on line schools (100 kids per so-called teacher) with our taxpayer money. After all my brother in law needs to sell a $100,000 worth of paper to an on line school. And with an extensively reported election for the Sunnyside and TUSD school boards, I am sure Basis will want their board answering questions about their operations in public, with a public vote for their board. Read the Arizona Republic series from 2012 on charters. Read the Detroit Free Press series in charters in Michigan from 2014. Crossout Michigan and add in Arizona, and the story is a ditto here. That's for your ditto heads who have a hard time reading anything.

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 12/13/2014 at 11:02 AM

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