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Re: “McCain Giving Up on Comprehensive Immigration Reform

If the left had solved any problems we could show those as successes.

But they haven't... so we can't.

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Posted by Rat T on 08/26/2014 at 11:13 AM

Re: “McCain Giving Up on Comprehensive Immigration Reform

I see this article has been haunted by the usual RW trolls peddling their xenophobia...

But let's expand the McCain/republican theory a little further, shall we?

How about no more wasting money on education until every child coming into the schools has at least a 120 IQ?

How about no more funds for Health Care until everyone's completely well?

How about no more road or bridge repair until the cars and trucks using the existing ones quit messing them up?

How about no more money for the military until the bloated one we already have makes everyone else in the world throw down their arms and surrender?

Ooops, I guess those already ARE the republican positions...except the last...

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Posted by ChetDude on 08/26/2014 at 10:28 AM

Re: “Salon Article Nails The "Education Reform" Movement

The lowest 25% of students in a poverty school draw almost exclusively from identified special education students and English Language Learners. Thus, the group with the lowest achievement, because they have learning disabilities or are not fluent in English, are expected to make the most growth. Their scores are counted three times in the overall formula.

Posted by Pima Mujer on 08/26/2014 at 9:30 AM

Re: “Demolition Begins On Former Downtown Performance Center/Mat Bevel Spaces

Does anyone not on the payroll think this is a good idea?

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Posted by Troy Neiman on 08/26/2014 at 8:34 AM

Re: “AZ AG Finds No Substance To Supervisor Miller's Allegations

Well she IS a wing nut, but she is our wing nut. I say keep her in office just to give the tax and spend majority at the county government a bad case of skin rash.

BTW, in the off chance that anyone that has to pay property taxes reads "The Range", a 8% increase in property taxes, without any vote by the taxed population seems a bit excessive.

When you open your tax bill next month you may want to have a stiff drink nearby.

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Posted by Gandalf the Overtaxed on 08/26/2014 at 8:31 AM

Re: “McCain Giving Up on Comprehensive Immigration Reform

I think voters should be given a choice if they want to expand these programs:

The total cost over this first generation of immigrants is estimated at a staggering $6.3 trillion in terms of total lifetime government benefits over and above the taxes the immigrants will pay in.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2014/08/14/comprehensive-immigration-reform-is-a-balance-of-compassion-versus-cost/

Average cost of education: Total expenditures for public elementary and secondary schools in the United States amounted to $632 billion in 2010–11, or $12,608 per public school student http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=66

$12,600 X 13 years KP-12 = $163,800
In 2009 there were 6,000,000 kids belonging to unauthorized aliens.
6,000,000 X $163,800 = $982,800,000,000.

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Posted by Claudia Splick Larson on 08/26/2014 at 8:02 AM

Re: “Prince Announces He Will Bestow Two Albums in September

Good jam. I clicked on Funk & Roll afterwards and that's awesome. I just kinda hate the name 3rdEyeGirl. Sounds too much like Third Eye Blind.

Oh well, it's nice that Prince is still cranking 'em out.

Posted by Gonzo Sorcrachi on 08/26/2014 at 7:24 AM

Re: “Did Arne Duncan Really Say, "Testing Is Sucking The Oxygen Out Of The Room"?

Thank you Mr. Safier: Second Question:

And, without Standardized Testing, what is (are) your objective measure (s) of a States/School Districts/Schools Academic Programs?.

Posted by Francis Saitta on 08/26/2014 at 7:13 AM

Re: “Dine With George Takei and Fred DuVal in Scottsdale Toinght

I hope it was a big hit. I just got done voting for Fred.

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Posted by Gonzo Sorcrachi on 08/26/2014 at 7:11 AM

Re: “Local Comedian Walt Maxam Passes Away at 67

R.I.P. Butch, you will be greatly missed by many

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Posted by Sharon Hurley on 08/26/2014 at 7:00 AM

Re: “McCain Giving Up on Comprehensive Immigration Reform

Hey I know....why not enforce the laws we have?

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Posted by Rat T on 08/26/2014 at 6:46 AM

Re: “Did Arne Duncan Really Say, "Testing Is Sucking The Oxygen Out Of The Room"?

Francis, I taught for more than 30 years in public high schools, mainly English. I was teaching when the heavy push toward standardized testing began in the 1990s and have watched it grow with No Child Left Behind.

Posted by David Safier on 08/26/2014 at 6:07 AM

Re: “McCain Giving Up on Comprehensive Immigration Reform

The paranoid stuff about Obama above is embarassing. You could've written the same stuff and just substitute Bush. Or Clinton, or Bush, etc.

However, many of the 12 points are valid. Immigration is way too high given our high population (320 million), high unemployment, and low wages.

And comprehensive immigration reform would have doubled immigration from already historically high levels.

I'd eventually like to see the status of long-term illegal immigrants with no ties to their home country normalized, but until the government commits to enforcing the law without increasing legal immigration in the bargain, they can't be trusted with these rolling amnesties that just encourage illegal immigration (as we've just seen with DACA and the flood of unaccompanied minors).

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Posted by bslap on 08/26/2014 at 5:55 AM

Re: “Take a Listen to a New Release from Billy Sedlmayr (And Prepare to Celebrate)

...we will meet where we have FAITH in science and our doctors! We will pray and hope to find out what color is god's skin! Thank you brother Bill...Love you, Michael. This is probably your finest, but so it goes. On and on. There's always more.

Posted by Michael Hofmann on 08/25/2014 at 9:51 PM

Re: “Salon Article Nails The "Education Reform" Movement

David, this is a fine article, but you are being too easy on TUSD. Yes, the problems there are, in good measure, due to poverty. That is a cause, but it is not an excuse.

Every district's priorities can be found inside the budget of that school district. TUSD's budget is Exhibit A in making the case that TUSD simply does not prioritize student learning. In TUSD's budget the priorities are paying for overpaid and underworked administrators and programs that have not only failed to improve student learning but have been shown...by TUSD's own studies and the work of Special Master Hawley... to promote segregation. There are too many students in TUSD who are in classes that are not taught by regular licensed teachers. Instead, these classes are taught by a parade of substitutes.

So much energy and money in TUSD are wasted in planning to make surface changes...but the culture that fails to prioritize student learning just keeps rolling along. In that, TUSD's "culture of pretending" would fit right in with Michelle Rhee, Campbell Brown, Jeb Bush and the rest of the corporate reformers who want to pretend that doing away with due process for teachers, destroying teacher unions, and turning the trillion dollars spent on public schools in this country over to hedge managers and their charter schools is "all about the children."

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Posted by Marty on 08/25/2014 at 7:04 PM

Re: “Demolition Begins On Former Downtown Performance Center/Mat Bevel Spaces

Like many others, the introducton of the DPC was from my older sister & then became a regular with friends . I'm glad Steve was mentioned. If not for him, I would not have many many years of bad ass musical nights & memories. Now I'm sad.... But glad I got to be a part of it.

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Posted by Steph Zomebody on 08/25/2014 at 6:38 PM

Re: “AZ AG Finds No Substance To Supervisor Miller's Allegations

Let's hope it's her last term.

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Posted by Matt Hydeman on 08/25/2014 at 5:52 PM

Re: “Buckmaster Show Callers Were A Wee Bit Upset With Me

David: As Marty pointed out earlier, check out the Arizona Auditor General's report on the schools. It does show that TUSD's percent spent in the classroom declined from 53% to 49% over a five year period. It also shows that TUSD spent more than both peer and state averages on non-classroom spending including administration. That does suggest that adjustments need to be made. But.....the data is an indicator but not the final answer more questions should be asked of the Superintendent, questions like "How do you explain this?"
All that said, I like your columns. Insightful and written with the perspective of an educator.

Posted by Michael S. Ellegood on 08/25/2014 at 5:11 PM

Re: “Demolition Begins On Former Downtown Performance Center/Mat Bevel Spaces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsh6kl8oeX8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Posted by Bruce Gulick on 08/25/2014 at 5:01 PM

Re: “McCain Giving Up on Comprehensive Immigration Reform

BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES MOSTLY INDIFFERENT TO CALLS FROM AMERICANS, TO HALT ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION?

Neither political party can be trusted to do the right thing for the American people. Super PACs spent July beefing up for the fall campaign. Many groups filed new disclosure reports this week, leaving a paper trail littered with big checks from big donors. Democrats dominate the list of notable July donors, as there have simply been more Democratic dollars flowing to that type of outside group this year. As I said “You cannot trust either party” so the next best thing, is not vote for the Democrat Party, nor vote for Republicans. When you go to the voting booth midterm, identify the issues that are of paramount importance to the United States. The major problem that plagues our country, and is being spotlighted is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.


According to rasmussenreports halting illegal immigration has become a priority to dam up our Southern border. Unfortunately the streaming media on the Internet and on printed matter lie through their rotten teeth. They try to hide the fact, that LEGAL Immigrants are not dissimilar from ILLEGAL ALIENS. The biggest difference, they are criminals who broke the law, and then we are expected to reward them with generous donations from US Taxpayers, which the current President is doing. Huge amounts of money in the hundreds of billions, is being spent to placate Illegal aliens. Compassion can only go so far, but when money is being stolen away from our own people, then ICE should step in and remove them. I honestly believe that both political parties have a self-serving agenda.


In our troubled country under Obamas tribunal, we have seen our national debt explode, with massive amounts of dollars printed on empty air. We have 25 million US citizens and green card holders still searching for a decent job and all the time behind our backs this President is trying to change America into something we don’t recognize anymore. I am sickened beyond belief. What could be more disgusting and disgraceful and bring such immense heartache than what is occurring in our beloved country. What's worse, America's military has been purged. America is now weak and extremely vulnerable. We have very little defense against this threat called ISIS. That's why we really have to pull together here. His true colors are really coming out. All this time he has purposely weakened our military; purged it of all combat generals so there is no leadership. Taken out anyone opposed to him and stripped rankings of those who did not bow to him; snatched billions from the Pentagon budget. This President has boasted about cutting defense spending and cut the number of troops serving. In 2015 he wants to cut $5 billion more.


‘Only the American People Can Stop Amnesty’ Obama has his sights set on destroying America. We have seen him trample the Constitution and blatantly disregard the law time and again. Now he is at it again with his push to grant amnesty to millions of incorrigibles. He already released more than 36,000 criminal aliens who were felons, awaiting deportation. Everything is at stake here.


Below, there is a list of the most non-exclusion laws that need to be mandatory, to address enforcement at the Southern border and interior power we desperately need. These policies need to be employed to stop the gush of illegal aliens, that’s if the majority pathetic cowards in the House of Representatives use their power to cut of the funding purse to this monstrous sized Obama government, DACA and any future Amnesties without the full will of the people and not pandering to any sized business welfare. Every American has got to get in the game. So much is riding on your support. The Tea Party specifically has been fighting every day since Obama took office—and the list of abuses; illegal activities and scandals have grown to mind-numbing proportions.

Comprehensive Reform--Amnesty...IRS abuses...Obamacare...gun-grabbing...open borders...deliberate bypassing of Congress...Benghazi...fast and furious weapons to Mexico—cutting our military and failure of National Security.


1. Revive the 700 mile, 2006 Secure Fence Act and build the double layer fencing, complete with concertina razor wire. Hundreds of miles are vacant of any barrier. It was killed by prior Republican Senator Kay bailey Hutchison of Texas by adding a non-escapable amendment to the 2006 bill. Whereas giving complete control to Homeland Security, ruling out any funds to deliver the 700 miles of two fences, separated by an all weather track way. An in between no-mans land where illegal aliens would be caught and detained for immediate deportation.
2. Strengthen the border with surveillance from the National Guard and add more Border Patrol Agents permanently.
3. Position more internal ICE agents to audit employers, instead of 5000 we have now for all of the United States.
4. Modify the law so illegal entry into the US becomes a Felony.
5. Issue a National digital Social Security Card for voting and to identify that person. EVEN E-VERIFY IF FULLY OPERATIONAL WOULD HELP? Intervene with Sen. Harry Reid allowing illegal aliens from stealing child tax credits, which is costing tax payer dollars.
6. Revisit the 14th amendment, thus amending the automatic citizen law, so ONLY the babies of US citizens can claim this right; (A huge expenditure for taxpayers.) Once here parents can stay. This amendment has been financially exploited for decades, and Sen. Harry Reid refuses to discuss a change, even though the process originates from a time of slavery for descendants could claim citizenship. Pregnant women who arrive by aircraft masquerading as a welfare tourists to take advantage of a hospitals in delivering a child, should be reported to ICE.
7. Formulate a new law so that employers who purposely hire illegal aliens will face federal incarceration. Cronyism is broadly the main trouble when it comes to ushering in legal and illegal immigrants into the US. Buying a large majority of our politicians by K Street corporations has long been a harbinger of Americans losing their jobs to cheap working foreigners.
8. Revise the 2006 human trafficking act, so it’s aligned with Mexico and Canadians.
9. Commence a uniform Guest worker program, with entry and exit permission permits and unless mitigating circumstances are available, overstays have committed a felony.
10. Merely legal immigrants with Special high level skills (STEMS) should be admitted permanently as the immigration policies in industrialized nations.
11. MUST LEARN ENGLISH TO IMMIGRATE.
12. There should be no immunity of any federal employee to be excused from accountability for wrongdoing and should be fined, imprisoned or both.


IF YOU ARE DISTRESSED ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY UNDER OBAMA IMPERIAL RULE AND HIS PAWNS check this site that has the phone Numbers and Mailing Addresses of Members of Congress at: www.contactingthecongress/ to stipulate an end to illegal immigration, the dismantling of our laws, sovereignty, citizen rights and even our military, which is protection against our enemies foreign an domestic. Illegal Immigration is rapidly becoming the top precedence for Americans, because they see its impact on the barren economy and lost jobs. Large corporations and big business are laying-off birthright, naturalized citizens and green card holders, making an avenue for lower paid illegal aliens. This is the number for the central switchboard for every member of Congress to address your objections at 800-224-3121.


INTERPRET THE REAL FACTS AND SURVEY POLLS AT THE www.rasmussenreports.com. THIS POLLING SITE YOU WILL AT LEAST GET THE TRUTH. THE QUESTIONS ARE NOT PSYCHOLOGICALLY ENGINEERED. If you have cable news watch their 7/24 broadcast without prejudiced or spin unlike the majority of major media. Go to One American News Network at http://www.oann.com.

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Posted by Dave Francis 1 on 08/25/2014 at 4:21 PM

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