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Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

See and Tell the TRUTH ...: I have admitted errors. You have not. That makes my point.

Posted by Mark Stegeman on 10/31/2014 at 1:32 AM

Re: “Base Level Fun

Here's more information on the Fest!

Saturday 8 November
4pm - midnight
$12 for over 12 bands!
(a portion of all ticket and bar sales will go to the All Souls Procession)

Band times will be released soon, keep up to date here -- https://www.facebook.com/events/2964045372…

Posted by catstronaut. on 10/31/2014 at 1:16 AM

Re: “An Ethan Orr Supporter Sticks Up for His Candidate

Demitri: Don't forget to remind Independents that Ethan Orr voted for HB 2305 which would have made it harder to Independents & 3rd party candidates to get on the ballot. Of course he then flipped flopped & voted to repeal it when it was facing a vote of the people. Another Ethan Orr "Profile in Courage".

Posted by BrianClymer on 10/30/2014 at 11:56 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

I will place my confidence in the studies of the efficacy of MAS which have been conducted by credentialed experts- external to the District. In the period of one month we have seen how TUSD so easily flipped its numbers relative to the budget. Certainly it has done so in other areas. My point in responding to Mark Stegeman's comment, was to remind everyone that the "compromise" which was referenced by Mark, was really NO compromise at all. He offered to either kill MAS slowly or have it killed immediately. As stated earlier- this was NO compromise.

We have Horne, Huppenthal, Pedicone, Stegeman, Hicks, Cuevas and Sugiyama to thank for the demise of MAS. Each played their part and each brought about great division within this community. (Remember Sugiyama- the appointed Board member who worked only a few doors down from Stegeman's office at the U of A! Stegeman almost got away with that maneuver without notice. ) Stegeman's bogus "compromise" was used as yet another means to make "the strongest MAS advocates" appear to be irrational and to portray himself as the one who tried so hard to reason with 'them.' For months he would tell people that he 'tried saving MAS' but that unreasonable people just would not listen to reason. These are masterful manipulative mind games that Stegeman plays. His lack of social intelligence seems to allow him to work his manipulations almost in a numbed state, as he brings about real harm to individuals, to an institution and to a community. Compassion seems to be totally absent.

As to the ongoing rants about 'MAS not meeting state standards' which continue- a thorough examination of the 2014 TUSD Curriculum Audit indicates that without a TUSD curriculum- there has been NO alignment to state standards. It is so easy to for some to continue the attacks on MAS based on myths or contorted information. My comments, although spurred on by M &M's comments are really are not for them. I have little hope that their worlds will ever be expanded and inclusive. My comments are for TW readers who think beyond the myths and manipulations that are so often spewed and attempted by the Martys and Marks of the world.

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Posted by Tell the TRUTH - on 10/30/2014 at 11:48 PM

Re: “For Diane Douglas, It’s Always "I before E": "Ideology before Education"

I'm going to venture a guess that none of you Garcia supporters have children of school age. And/or you're ignorant of the Common Core FACTS. And/or that you don't CARE what happens to your children. Let me just suggest you watch Pink Floyd's The Wall. Just watch all the parts filmed in schools. Up to, and including when they're all turned into burlap faced clones of each other and they walk right off the conveyor belt of education into a meat grinder. If it's okay with you that your children become the stupidest generation ever, and it's okay with you that your child's education and medical records are all mixed together and are readily available to third parties, that everything they say, everything they do, and in particular every mistake they make from Pre K through age 20 is available for whomever wants to see them, if data collecting on YOUR (the parents) voting habits, work habits and parental style is okay...and lastly if you're okay with the federal government owning your children, and you having NO say-so in how they're raised. Then by all means cast that vote for Garcia. Common Core is not just a common set of standards, it's about owning your children. Just like Hitler did, take the children. Sway them, because they will be here long after you're gone and they will BE the nazi community. Y'all need to educate yourselves and stop being puppets. I don't like Douglas. Not even a little bit. But my vote will go to EVERYONE who will allow ME to protect my children. Oh, and one last thing, if you guys vote for Garcia, and he does all the above mentioned things and you don't see it until it's too late......I hope and pray it's MY voice you hear in your heads saying "I told you so"

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Posted by Janet Lopas on 10/30/2014 at 10:57 PM

Re: “An Ethan Orr Supporter Sticks Up for His Candidate

Come out of hiding guys, post your name to your real name to your opinion! Have courage, you can do it! Thank you Cheryl and Donna, I have enjoyed our civil discourse! : )

Posted by Demitri Yegolas Downing on 10/30/2014 at 10:23 PM

Re: “An Ethan Orr Supporter Sticks Up for His Candidate

I love the personal attacks guys! That is hilarious, ah no jail time sorry, no such charges, sorry and at least I do not hide behind false names! Have the COURAGE to stand up for what you say and place your name on it like Cheryl and some others do!

Back to the issues: The HOUSE will be Republican until 2020 and therefore no voice for Tucson.

Oh, you know, I am tired of the HATE and ANGER from the Democratic partisans who put party before Tucson, so sad as you show your true colors, its all out there...........

The truth will set you free, so will registering as an independent!

Posted by Demitri Yegolas Downing on 10/30/2014 at 10:19 PM

Re: “For Diane Douglas, It’s Always "I before E": "Ideology before Education"

It's laughable that you accuse Diane of putting ideology before education...that is the total liberal/progressive agenda for all public policy. Don't do what works, do what we told you to do. Let me tell you a secret, if stamping education with a progressive/liberal/Democrat agenda was going to work we would already have the finest schools in the world. But the truth is local control of education is IMPERATIVE for our schools to be successful. The top down model, especially under the FedEd is not serving our kids well. It has simply turned education into an industry with special interest groups and all the garbage that goes along with it. I am confident that Diane is going to win because her message of parental rights trumping educational ideology is thriving with voters all over the state. The liberal enclave of Tucson likely is the only exception. I need a bumper sticker that says I survived 10 years in Tucson and still am in my RIGHT mind.

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Posted by AzPeach on 10/30/2014 at 10:05 PM

Re: “Growing Controversy

There isn't anything Pima County Health is doing, that Maricopa County Health is not doing in quadruple. You want to deal with rules and guidelines? Deal with Maricopa County. Pima County is a walk in the park.

Eventually, all of the counties will finally come under one jurisdiction. It will evolve into one standard Arizona healthcare law. It is headed in that direction, even as I type these words.

The problem that Manish Shah and Roxanne Garcia have, is that there are a number of vendors in their markets who are not fully licensed to do what they are doing. I don't really have a problem with that myself.

Most people who are selling food to the public are exercising good judgement in their handling of the food they are selling to the public, and they present little risk to the people who are buying their products.

That being said, there will come a time when government regulation will become the norm, and food vendors will have to abide by the rules.

It will change the landscape of the Farmer's Markets in Arizona.

I don't welcome it for any of the Markets in Southern Arizona, whether Heirloom, or Food in Root, or any other market promoter for that matter.

There was a time when a nine year old kid could put a lemonade stand in her front yard and sell lemonade. You and I both know that period of our history is now a memory.

Just for the record, this is not meant to be an attack on Heirloom. I have many friends who are part of Heirloom.

Both Heirloom and Food in Root have to observe the guidelines of Pima County Health. It is simply what we are both facing, going forward. Make sure your licenses are in order.

Posted by Anna White on 10/30/2014 at 9:37 PM

Re: “Ask a Mexican!

I wish I could read this column. My mother tongue is English, and, since I live in America, have studied the subject and am fairly good at it, am puzzled why, after trying to read this column cannot comprehend it's meaning because of the slanted Spanish.
Shame, I really would like to know what they are talking about.

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Posted by frank McLaury on 10/30/2014 at 8:22 PM

Re: “Tucson Ghost Stories: Is Room 242 Really Haunted?

TUCSONS FINEST PARANORMAL IS A LOCAL INVESTGATION TEAM THAT IS VERY CREDIBLE. I AM IAN NIXON LEAD INVESTIGATOR OF TUCSONS FINEST PARANORMAL IN TUCSON AZ. I PERSONALLY SHOT THAT LIGHT ANOMALY IN ROOM 242 IN OCT. 2012. I AM INVESTIGATING IT AGAIN FOR A 2014 LOCKDOWN AND AM HAVING A SWAT OFFICER THAT KICKED IN THE DOOR THE NIGHT OF THE SHOOTING JOIN ME. I DONT APPRECIATE YOUR DENIGRATION OF MY TEAM AND WILL NOT STAND FOR IT. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US OR WHAT WE DO.RETRACT YOUR COMMENTS OR I WILL MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENGAGE FURTHER WITH YOU. THAT EVIDENCE IS REAL AND IN REAL TIME. YOUR THE BULLSHITTER. WEVE BEEN IN THE GAME FOR YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE WITH VIGILANCE IN SEARCH OF THE TRUTH.

SR INVESTIGATOR IAN NIXON
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Posted by TUCSONSFINESTPARANORMAL on 10/30/2014 at 7:56 PM

Re: “Police Dispatch

The two women in question both have houses in Rita Ranch. I know this as a fact. Don't fall for their lies.

Posted by Kevin D. Johnson on 10/30/2014 at 7:38 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Mark and Marty read the Cabrera et al. (2012) report and the Cabrera et al. (2014), which will be published in the American Educational Research Journal, on the efficacy of MAS program.

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Posted by Sean Arce on 10/30/2014 at 7:24 PM

Re: “Danehy

There is an obvious reason that Texas can get by without an income tax and Kansas can't - Texas is still producing (and taxing) a lot of oil, and Kansas....isn't. It's just like saying "Nevada doesn't need an income tax, so we don't either!", without legalizing gambling in your state.

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Posted by Jeffrey Patten on 10/30/2014 at 7:22 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

See and tell the TRUTH Stegeman says: "You condemned the MAS teachers and Director for not having a curriculum- without examining whether "official" curriculum existed elsewhere in TUSD. Of course, now you know, via the 2014 Curriculum Audit, that the entire District has been void of curriculum."

First off, the issue was not so much that MAS had no articulated curriculum, but that the TUSD Board was allowing graduation credit for courses that did not even approach meeting state standards in the subject areas the credit was being offered. No one had to wait for any 2014 curriculum audit to know that the TUSD Board had abdicated its responsibility to make sure the district met the state standards for curriculum. Judge Kowal, in his decision upholding Huppenthal's decision that TUSD violated the law with the MAS classes lambasted the Governing Board for its failure to do so, and not just for the MAS classes.

By the way, your assertion that the coursework was rigorous is totally risible. Anyone who has seen the coursework for the high school juniors and seniors in MAS classes knows that it was much closer to the sixth grade level than anything else.

As far as authentic intelligence goes, I'd say the bottom line is having the requisite judgment to separate fact from fiction. Your post fails to do that, as was just pointed out in only two of the many instances that could have been raised. I bet you still believe that 98+% of MAS students graduated...even though TUSD's statistician proved that only about 84% of MAS students graduated, the same percentage as students who never took a single MAS class.

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Posted by Marty on 10/30/2014 at 5:27 PM

Re: “Tonight: Red Medicine and Our Sacred Maiz is Our Mother

Bill is only writing the facts. Look it up. Mexico actually claimed the Southwest U.S. for less than he says. From 1810 to 1848. During which time the genocide and oppression of actual native peoples was as bad or worse as under the Spanish or Americans.

Posted by bslap on 10/30/2014 at 5:07 PM

Re: “Tonight: Red Medicine and Our Sacred Maiz is Our Mother

Bill... the philosophy you represent is called Providence and Manifest Destiny... which in effect is lined up with the KKK and the forces of slavery... and prior to that, genocide and land thefy... amazing your logic...try pedaling it to your kindred spirits...

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Posted by xcolumn on 10/30/2014 at 4:56 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Here is a chunk of reality Mark, your viewpoint that 'the strongest MAS advocates were unwilling to compromise' shows just how steeped you were and are in a single perspective (privileged white-male). There are many evolved white males; you are not one. Your perspective remains dominant in Tucson, in Arizona, and in the US- no doubt- and much of what is wrong with the world is that the female and ethnic and racial minority perspectives are often disregarded or silenced by those who are threatened by their very presence. The world is no longer as narrow as you would like to keep it.

No one should have been asked to "compromise" on course work that offered a perspective which inspired, engaged and taught- and ultimately rendered positive academic results! We all recall what you offered as a so called compromise: the MAS courses will be taught as electives and not core curriculum courses. This would have brought about a slow but sure death to MAS. Agreement to this suicidal compromise was insulting and when it was immediately rejected, a quick death was imposed. Either way, the death of MAS under your majority rule was destined to take place. Do not pretend for one second that there was ever any dignified and substantive presentation of a "compromise"- because there just wasn't. We tried explaining to you that students were not going to sign up for a rigorous course without providing equal credit as those who take sister courses in language arts or government (which remain to offer only an Euro-American-centric perspective). You condemned the MAS teachers and Director for not having a curriculum- without examining whether "official" curriculum existed elsewhere in TUSD. Of course, now you know, via the 2014 Curriculum Audit, that the entire District has been void of curriculum.

MAS students and teachers (separately) had asked to meet with the administration time and time again. Both groups were ignored. We asked for the Board to learn more about MAS through its teachers and students. You did not. Both the Board and Dr. Pedicone, with guidance from Martha Durkin- responded by calling out TPS and doubling your TUSD security force. Do you really think this is how one sets up an environment for discussion and civility? How exactly does oppression work in bringing about any understanding? Oppression did not take place for a week or a month- it was a year of prodding and investigating and provoking. It was a year of gagging all of us. It was a painful time; one that should not be forgotten and one from which we each should take away truths- if nothing else. Your post is far from presenting any truth, in fact it is delusional. It would be so bold and courageous of you to one day- admit the wrongs you committed and the harm that you brought about. Until then you will be seen as what you are- a man without any social intelligence. Authentic intelligence goes far beyond an IQ and PHD.

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Posted by See and tell the TRUTH Stegeman on 10/30/2014 at 4:33 PM

Re: “MSNBC's Chris Hayes Reports on Southside Presbyterian and Sanctuary History

I won't question your citizenship, Cliffie, only your English. You've got one glaring misspelling and an AWOL apostrophe for starters. I'm sure there's more, but my latte calls.

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Posted by Peabo on 10/30/2014 at 4:33 PM

Re: “DuVal Hits Ducey on Chris Christie Visit

This would be a great time for Food City to run a special on rotten tomatoes

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Posted by NJYD on 10/30/2014 at 4:11 PM

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