Are you kidding? I'm moving there!
I dont think wingspan is aggressive enough when it comes to getting things up. We need something like ACT-UP like they have on the east coast.
As usual, Wingspan's leadership is appreciated. Since an uncaring or antagonistic individual can thwart the President's efforts and regulations, demand to see a supervisor and remember to remind recalcitrant hospital personnel that their hospital can lose its access to Federal funds if it refuses access to a partner in time of distress.
Matthew Bertrand responds to the comment from dg9:
We did overestimate the savings for that specific greywater project. The estimate was also in reference to the removal of a 15'x15' bermuda grass lawn. Because the city of Tucson prices water on a sliding scale, the commenter is correct that a low water user would save very little by conserving water through a greywater system. However, a higher water user has even greater potential to save.
Here is Tucson Water's pricing scale (accessible here: http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/water/rates.htm…
1 – 15 Ccf $1.39
16 – 30 Ccf $5.13
31 – 45 Ccf $7.25
Over 45 Ccf $9.90
As a sample case, a household using a moderate-high amount of water, averaging 25CCF per month, would spend about $72 on water per month. If that homeowner hit our target 40% reduction in water use (the amount that the average homeowner uses on the landscape) down to 15 CCF/mo, the bill would reduce to $20/mo, for a $52/mo or $615/yr average cost savings. That 40% reduction is not hard to acheive, through recontouring the landscape to retain and infiltrate rainwater to support native plants which survive on rainfall, and. if necessary, watering higher water use plants such as fruit trees using greywater and rainwater stored in cisterns. New developments can achieve this target without significant (if any) added expense by incorporating this approach into the initial plans.
The State of Arizona also offers tax credits to anyone implementing rainwater harvesting or greywater systems, up to $1000 or 25% of the cost of the system. The State has only given out about half of these available funds over the last 3 years - most anyone who would apply would receive the credit.
Please check the math. 8000 gallons of water = 10.7 ccf. If you are below 15ccf per month usage (remember to conserve), you are paying $1.39 per ccf for an annual savings of $14.87. This is far less than the assertion in the article.
faitsjasmin uses an ad hominem attact to distract the public attention away form the real issue. Ann Marie Clock is a fraud and is unlawfully representing herself as someone knowledgeable in indigenous spiritual practices. A person of character would be concerned about that. An intelligent person would not construct ad hominem attacks to distract attention away from the issue at hand. The Tucson Weekly negligently promoted a fraud and a liar who swindles people out of their money by misrepresenting herself as a person entitled to conduct Native American sweat lodges. The public has been harmed by Irene Messina's ignorance and lack of journalistic integrity. Again, a retraction of the initial story and an apology to the LEGITIMATE Native American community is long overdue!
“Should we be ashamed of presenting different practices, viewpoints and ways of life? Absolutely not; exposing various sides of a community and its members is our job.”
Irene Messina, who doesn’t possess the character to admit that she is so ignorant about all things indigenous, creates a straw man argument to prevent the public from discovering the real issue here. Irene Messina lacks all journalistic integrity promoted the SHAMELESS WELL-KNOWN FRAUD ‘Reverend’ Ann Marie Clock who is as fake and phony as James Arthur Ray. She should not be writing for the Tucson Weekly or any other publication until she learns the meaning of journalistic integrity.
Journalistic integrity consists of truthfulness, accuracy, objectivity, impartiality, fairness and PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY. Irene Messina demonstrates none of these virtues. This pathetic attempt to confuse the issue is not fooling anyone with even minimal critical thinking skills. I suggest you develop your own character, Irene, and stop constructing logical fallacies to justify your ineptitude. A RETRACTION for that cheesy advertisement for the FRAUD Ann Marie Clock is LONG OVERDUE.
Oh shut up, "Oh Please", if you don't like it, don't read it. Simple as that. You don't have to be a douche about it.
You should be ashamed of your lack of journalistic INTEGRITY, your refusal to fact check and this pathetic attempt to justify your gross incompetence. Grow up, Irene. Learn about the profession and stop whining.
An artist? He makes patches and sells them at craft shows in the summer and the rest of the time lives off the state, friends who have electricity and houses and showers he can mooch off of. if he considers what he does to qualify him as an artist, he is delusional. He does seem to be mentally deficient and delusional.
This is a joke, you've been conned by this guy. Yes he lives in a bus, but unlike genuine "off grid" people, he is NOT self-sufficient. This guy is a drain on the state of Arizona. He puts up this smoke and mirrors of a "Green" life, while he: takes Food Stamps, ACCHS health care — the AZ version of Medicaid, — welfare in other words. He brags about this lifestyle and yet runs over to the University to use THEIR showers, THEIR electricity. He doesn't really want to live a green, off grid life. He just doesn't want to have to pay bills like a grown up. Living green means self-sufficiency, not draining the state welfare system, showering at the university and taking anybody else's electricity! The guy is mooching off the system. And you fell right into his con. And you see how lazy he is — he's too lazy to set up and take down his drums. Have you ever met a drummer who felt that way, was that lazy? Only an amateur would say such a thing. Immature comes to mind. Living off the state. Way to go green.
Of course it is real Ray MORON 506. The profession has been around since time began - they need to support themselves somehow. They are not bugs nor are they inhuman! The fact that a person (Human Being) died in prison out of neglect is cause for ire no matter what their profession is!
International sex workers right day?!?!?!?! Are you kidding me?!?! A prisoner died. I say good! One less bug that we have to house and feed. I mean really is this for real???
to my dearest jessica cox,i am really touched with your life story.i am a whole person but sometimes i cant even do simple task on my own.you have motivated me to continue living in this world.....i have had so many frustrations in life,downfalls,depressions name it i got it but look at you--you never complained instead you made your weakness your strenght.and your faith is unbelievable,amazing....and your parents,too i praise them for bringing up a child so confident----you are truly a blessing to the whole christian world....keep it up and may you touch more lives as much as you have touched mine.
Good alt journalism job on this one, Irene Messina!
(to which Red Star can only add the blurb, "Where have all the neocons gone..."
This is a good article. Glad there is something presented to the public in the tucson weekly to dispel misconceptions about the pagan community.
Whether she's a fraud or not, who can conduct them, whether sweats are even good, it is indeed good for many of the public to be educated on what a real sweat is like.
I am glad this article was printed.
(And the comments. I was glad to read them as well. Good stuff to study.)
Maybe it's a good thing......
Regulations sought in wake of sweat-lodge deaths
Jan. 19, 2010 02:35 PM
An Arizona lawmaker wants to regulate the use of traditional Native American practices after three people died last year in a northern-Arizona sweat lodge ceremony.
Sen. Albert Hale, D-St. Michaels, announced on Tuesday that he plans to introduce a measure to sanction the use of Native American ceremonies off tribal land for profit without permission.
Self-help guru James Arthur Ray charged people more than $9,000 each to attend his five-day "Spiritual Warrior" retreat near Sedona that culminated in a sweat lodge ceremony on Oct. 8. Participants said they trusted that Ray, who touted training under a Native American shaman, knew what he was doing.
Three people died and 18 others were hospitalized after becoming overwhelmed in the 415 square-foot sweat lodge that was covered with tarps and blankets. The deaths and illnesses sparked outrage among American Indians, who drew distinctions between what Ray did and what would be considered a traditional Native American sweat lodge.
Hale, a member and former president of the Navajo tribe, said the bill is partly an effort to protect people from false advertising.
"This process has been a perversion of our traditional ways," he said. "The dominant society has taken all that we have: Our land, our water, our language, and now they're trying to take our way of life."
The Yavapai County sheriff's office has focused a homicide investigation on Ray, who has made millions of dollars by convincing people his words will lead them to spiritual and financial wealth. Ray has hired an investigative team to find out what happened, and his lawyer said the deaths were the result of a tragic accident, not criminal negligence.
Hale's proposed restrictions would not apply to ceremonies taking place on tribal land or with the authorization of a tribal government.
It's unclear exactly how the law would be enforced. The bill leaves those details up to the Arizona Department of Health Services and the Arizona Commission of Indian Affairs, but Hale said a violation would likely be a civil offense similar to a traffic ticket.
Sweat lodges are commonly used by Native American tribes to cleanse the body and prepare for hunts, ceremonies and other events. They typically hold no more than a dozen people, compared with more than 50 people inside the one led by Ray.
The ceremony involves stones heated up outside the lodge, brought inside and placed in a pit. The door is closed, and water is poured on the stones, producing heat aimed at releasing toxins in the body. In traditional ceremonies, the person who pours the water is said to have an innate sense about the conditions of others inside the sweat lodge, many times recognizing problems before they physically are presented.
"We need to be respected," Navajo Nation President Joe Shirley Jr. said. "Our ways cannot be abused."
I have been to her sweat lodge and she did not charge us a fee for this service. You certainly can leave a donation if you choose to do so.
Fee or no fee, is this really the question to be asked? How about what benefit did the participants feel they did or did not get while attending this sacred ritual?
What makes it sacred? Do you have to born a "Native American" to make such a claim?
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