And as stated by Mike A. "I gag........". Suggestion: Quit going down on your boyfriend especially after you've been hittin' your bong! And as far as knowing what a "patriot" is, you will find out when your daddy the Illegal Alien in the Wh declares martial law. I'm sure that you will get an up close and personal introduction. So back to suckin' on your bong (or whatever).
The Arizona Education Network and the state's Democratic Party share a concern for the adequate education of our young people for life in the 21st century, together with a belief that the public schools, from kindergarten through university graduate schools, are the institutions in which most of Arizona's students are going to be educated. Somehow our recent legislatures, with heavy Republican majorities, and our largely self-educated Governor, have not seen fit to protect and strengthen the investment made over many decades in public education. Indeed, they have done the opposite, cutting billions from state spending for education.
Yes, genocidal tyrants are indeed a hot button of mine. And Hugo Chavez received more votes than George Bush or Obama ever did (or Pinochet for that matter), and in far fairer elections. Was he a genocidal tyrant? I honestly don't know, though I do know no evidence has been ever presented to suggest that he rounded up and executed stadiums full of political opponents and/or indigenous peoples as happened in Chile.
Your definition of a good corporate citizen and mine are certainly divergent. Barrick and Rio Tinto's actions outlined in the links at the website are abhorrent, illegal and wrong-it does not surprise me that you defend them as you already admit to taking their money. Their reputations became spotless with you as soon as their checks cleared. I'm sure you'll continue in your chosen profession with a clear conscience for the same reason.
AZ/DC: "Twin Falls" is a very good song, but I stand behind my largely arbitrary order.
In Joe's world, it is usually spelled with three Ks. He does get the "dittoes" though, don't he? All the true believers know what he means.
To be completely honest, I wasn't aware people still gave a damn about Family Guy.
I think I found you hot button. I was in Chile for a while under Allende and he was as democratically elected as was Hugo Chavez in his last two terms. I lived in Venezuela during one of his periods as well.
I still admire Pinochet, as do so many here. I quite like Fujimori in Peru as well. Both men of destiny that providence placed in their countries at a pivotal time.
I suggest you leave the fiction section of the internet when you look for valid information on the companies you have noted. I have consulted for the first two on your list and they are good corporate citizens, though often maligned by the anti-development lefties.
Thank you for your opinion and while I disagree with your point of view, I will continue to work to assure that the metals or energy resources you and others need are available and do so in a responsible manner, as I have for these 55 years now.
If this list is in order of the top 10, than "Twin Falls" should be higher on the list.
What a load of horseshit! This is all a set up leading to Stewie building a new time machine and going back in time to alter the incident which took Brian's life. Mark my words, watch and learn.
Hearing from around town that Miciah has almost completed a" tour de worked in every restaurant in tucson" in under two years lately
John Fina is already selling a similar product....
You forgot one of Bear Down's other, less acknowledged pieces of its reputation -- where countless men would go, in the upstairs restroom and in the locker room and communal showers to have gay sex. It usually ended up with someone calling UAPD and someone getting caught. No more of that -- and that's a good thing.
Interesting bizarro world inhabited by our friend from Bisbee.
If the boy would look a little more closely (or listen to something other than faux-noise) he would find that it was his friends in the republican and blue-dog corporate democrat ranks who sold the USAmerican people out to their corporate capitalist masters for short-term profits... There were NO "liberals" involved...
As for "becoming great", if he means grabbing everything that wasn't nailed down after the destruction of WWII and creating a situation where 70% of USAmericans have to take a prescription drug to get through the day (along with their non-prescribed beer and football), then I guess he's right...
Oh yeah, and Mother Nature bats last...
Democrats now know they're going to lose the Senate in 2014, and they want to do as much damage as they can before that happens.
Pinochet Suites....irony is truly wasted on you, isn't it? If you applaud Pinochet, then you are a fascist masquerading as a human being; someone who justifies torture, murder and the overthrow of democratically-elected governments in the name of profit. Or perhaps just a "reasonable" business climate. There may well be ethical people in the mining business but you, sir, are not one of them. You may not enslave miners for subsistence wages, fire, beat or kill them when they attempt to unionize or otherwise object to their conditions or knowingly dump mercury into the local streams but your claim that other companies can't or don't do business in that fashion is a bald-faced lie. Here is a no-doubt incomplete list of articles from the past few years addressing those very issues worldwide, many within Chile itself.
Feel free to attack the source(s) all you like; the facts are indisputable. You are an apologist for fascism and corporate avarice as evidenced by your own words above. I am not opposed to mining, recognizing its vital necessity to the modern world and its components. I am, however, virulently opposed to exploitation, bribery, theft, murder and the wholesale rape of environments for profit, all of which are utilized by the majority of the largest players in the mining industry (Barrick, Rio Tinto, Massey, et al) as a standard business practice, your hollow protests to the contrary notwithstanding
"...bad actors" indeed; the only bad acting here is your transparent attempt at denial.
I am not, in any way connected to the Rosemont mine or the parent company. I do not even know any of the players. It has been more than 25 years since I have worked on a US based project and while I have worked with Canadian companies during this time, it was all gold related
I agree, the choice of the word “reasonable” was a poor one. My intent was to suggest that the regulations be sufficiently protective of the environment during development, operation and, most importantly, during closure, while still allowing for responsible natural resource development. In general, the US regs meet these criteria and any mining company I work for does/would meet them. There are however, countries that have what I would call “unreasonable” rules in that they are so rigid that they preclude mining/oil and gas recovery or so poorly written/enforced that they fall short of truly protecting the environment and people.
There are, of course individuals and companies that take advantage of weakness in laws or their lax enforcement. I see this often in developing countries, but not just in the natural resource business, but in timber harvesting, agricultural applications – farming and livestock, development of commercial and apartment buildings. I know of no US or Canadian listed companies which do this, as the embassy staffs keep a close watch on the companies that call the stock markets in these countries home. The real problems at this time, come with some private companies from China – not Chinese State-owned, some Brazilian companies, not all and Indian groups as well as a myriad of local companies or individuals in most countries.
World-wide, responsible natural resource companies engage whole heartedly in sustainable development projects that lift up the locals in many ways and I am very proud to look at some I have personally directed as long as 20 years ago in west Africa and more recently the jungles of Peru and how the lives of so many are markedly better and continue to improve. This is very much like my own childhood, where the mining companies filled the gaps left by government during the depression and made Bisbee a great place to grow up and to be educated in. This is the model I use.
It is the seemingly endless use of the courts that makes the US an unfriendly environment, not the science. Oft times the science is debated in the courts with lawyers and judges who haven’t a clue what is correct taking decisions well beyond their knowledge base. Thus things end up being interminably delayed. I take offence at the suggestion that the responsible players in my chosen industry pay off corrupt officials and lawyers. This does not happen within the many companies that I have worked. I have seen companies abandoned millions in sunk costs because it became apparent that only through bribery can the project be completed. There are many ethical people in this business and the vast majority does not nor will not engage in corrupt activities. However, refer to my note above about the bad actors in this business.
Time to go to work; I will address your other points in the evening when I return to my three star hotel. I am not quite privileged enough to enjoy the “Pinochet Suits.” In fact I don’t know that I have even heard of them before. I am however, a great fan of Pinochet and applaud what he did for Chile, which was a difficult, messy, but necessary task.
Thank you for your thoughtful response. FWIW, I'm just a concerned citizen, not a member of any organization or group, Sierra Club or otherwise. In the interests of full disclosure, are you paid to consult for the Rosemont project?
At the risk of being accused of splitting hairs, I'd like to focus on a few of the statements you made, the first about political environments where mines can be "reasonably" developed. This is a standard mantra of resource capitalists who encounter wage or environmental laws they consider too onerous, threatening them with reduced profitability. In other words, if they can't set the agenda via lobbyists or hired thugs, they'll take their toys to a friendlier sandbox. I can't imagine how this attitude/business practice could possibly spark resentment or resistance among people who live on and around the resources desired by said mining companies, can you?
Additionally, your description of US environmental laws and their application is entirely one-sided and self-serving. While I am no fan of the government, I recognize when it performs useful functions, one of which would be preventing environmental catastrophes amongst its citizenry. One of the main reasons it takes "tens of years" to receive the proper permits is that they are repeatedly denied on simple scientific grounds until the proper ciphers can be placed within the local political establishment to create a more "reasonable" environment for their passage. An expensive process, to be sure, but don't go looking for sympathy just because your chosen industry is forced to pay off myriad corrupt officials and lawyers to achieve the desired outcome in a locale'. Again, I can't see how this could ever, under any stretch of the imagination, stir resentment...
It's a shame you can't get past the liberal/conservative illusion. Bill Clinton gave tens of thousands of free acres on public lands to mining companies during his tenure, including (as you must be aware) a good portion of the Saguaro National Park West near the old Silverbell mine. Mining is allowed, it's just not "reasonable" enough to do so yet because of those pesky humans living in the area who insist on keeping their wells usable. (Odd, I know-why don't they just buy Perrier with their welfare checks and stop bothering those stalwart, blameless mining executives you're paid to consult for?)
You're right about those damn Democrats bringing us the 2008 crash, but it had nothing to do with "fair housing" and everything to do with crooked bankers knowingly bundling and selling bad loans to multiple investors until the house of cards collapsed. Our pensions have still not recovered-I bet you're one of those who actually believe their investment counselors when they tell you it was all the fault of those damned old people outliving the insurance adjustors' estimates, aren't you? And it was all enabled by Democrats, who worked directly with the GOP to kill off the Glass-Stegall Act with the Gramm/Leach/Bliley bill in 1999. Those conservatives you seem to think so highly of sold you and this nation down the river years ago hand-in-hand with the liberals. Too bad you're unable to see it.
Finally, election integrity will bring back America. Well, that and accountability for the rats who stole us blind. That includes Obama, the Bushes, the Clintons and all the Bernie Madoffs who have yet to be exposed. Enjoy Chile-I understand the Pinochet Suites are quite comfortable...for those with the money, at any rate. I'm sure you'll fit right in.
This while thing is laughable because the other bar owner is not from az but the guys that brought a WOB here are.
JCC, he's totally a talented artist. He's also an asshole.
Let's not pretend the two are mutually exclusive concepts, especially considering how many talented people are completely abhorrent outside of their field.
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