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Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

You folks really dont know thecsource of your problems do you?

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Posted by Susan Hirsh on 12/03/2016 at 9:36 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Hi What Again --

Curious to know if you have actually read Karl Marx.

When you can quote from (and provide well-thought out arguments for or against) a couple of important passages in "Theories of Surplus Value" or one of the other key texts, why don't you get back to us with your critique of his system of thought? (Whether or not you agree with every aspect of Marx, his crisis theory is interesting -- some would say prophetic -- when you're looking at episodes in our own history like 1929 and 2008.)

As for our poverty in Southern Arizona, that can be explained in a number of different ways. It's true some of our government institutions, including some of our public school districts, are malfunctioning, but those of us who've seen high functioning public institutions in blue states might identify different causes than you would identify. Lack of sufficient oversight and enforcement of transparency laws and lack of sufficient funding of public institutions of education which can then feed more high functioning graduates into the local economy might be a couple of key things to talk about. (It's problematic to demand increased funding without somehow guaranteeing that there will be an increase in the sort of oversight and transparency proper to institutions using PUBLIC funds, though, which is where our local branch of the "Democratic" party gets it wrong.)

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Posted by Don't throw the name around if you haven't read the author. on 12/03/2016 at 8:39 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

People like you keep others poor, because you have no concern for anyone but yourself.

Greed and selfishness will be your downfall.

Loneliness and depression shall become your "reward".

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Posted by You've done well with failure What, Again on 12/03/2016 at 8:30 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

To "The "Real World" needs REAL leadership - not De Vos"- Great job! Karl Marx would be so proud. If we could only make more people poor everything would be wonderful.

Tucson - 6th poorest in the country, proud and determined to stay that way!

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Posted by What, Again on 12/03/2016 at 7:28 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Great post Real World/Not De Vos.

Bisbee boy has proven again and again that he has no love for those who somehow got left behind.

God forbid that people who aren't as "blessed" as he have options for their children. He would probably rather see them suffer.

Good for him. He's definitely one of Trump's people.

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Posted by Bisbee boy is not a people person on 12/03/2016 at 6:52 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

What is the "real world," Bisbee Boy?

Is that the place where some married couples with children could, if they chose, sit on their asses all day and more money than it takes to feed, clothe, house, and educate a small army would automatically flow into their bank accounts because they have sufficient stock portfolios to pay dividends? While other couples with children work 80 hours or more every week in the wealthiest country in the world and are given less than it takes to feed, clothe, house, and educate their own children? Where their local public school under-serves poor families and blames them because while working 80 hours a week they can't provide their children with the same level of support that upper middle class families where a single income is enough to support the family enables one parent to stay home and support the children's needs full time, chauffering them to and from whatever school it may be best for them to attend, open enrolling in another district's public schools or in charters or privates, engaging in expensive extracurricular activities and receiving tutoring and homework help as needed?

Is the "real world" where people with capital engage in "rent seeking," aka the search for "surplus value," areas where they can take over what were previously public services provided with no profit margin and create more endeavors that feed money automatically to the wealthy through profits and dividends, while ownership brutally suppresses labor costs and cuts off benefits to the people educating our kids, as TUSD did when it outsourced the management of the subs delivering education to children in too many of the schools in the district that serve poor families?

Ah, yes, that IS the "real world," according to those like you who are looking forward to watching Trump and Betsy De Vos "make America great again," which evidently means seeing the country return to some of the abuses witnessed here during the Gilded Age.

We need someone in the "Secretary of Education" position who is committed to bringing the public system up to decent, functioning level and who knows how to hold the private and charter system accountable for delivering quality services, for operating, like the public system, on a strictly non-profit basis, and for being transparent in how it applies the public funds made available through "choice" programs states create.

Nothing we have heard about Betsy De Vos indicates that she would be remotely capable of delivering what the American education system -- public, private and charter -- needs at this point.

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Posted by The "Real World" needs REAL leadership - not De Vos. on 12/03/2016 at 6:01 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

David,

Why does someone's net worth have to do with your story, except to demonstrate they are successful and most probably good managers. This would, of course, make a person more qualified, at least it does in the real world. And boy, does government need a good dose of real world management!

This lady will bring a positive attitude to the department, something long lacking; a positive attitude for parent empowerment in their child's education and future. Teachers unions fear the parental power that this will bring, as the parents will "shop with their feet" - taking their kids to schools they think best and often at substantial cost in dollars and time. Where is the problem?

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Posted by Bisbee boy on 12/03/2016 at 4:52 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Journalist Christiane Amanpour Is Worried

I love how you fools play right into my hands.

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Posted by CW13 on 12/03/2016 at 1:16 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Journalist Christiane Amanpour Is Worried

Yeah, I'd dislike it too. If I was dumb enough to vote for her.

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Posted by CW13 on 12/03/2016 at 8:43 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

You want black truth? Google Shaq for Trump.

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Posted by Basketball Jones on 12/03/2016 at 4:17 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Then we must also look at the pedophiles and friends of the Clintons. What were tgey trying to buy? They were assured by the media that Hillary would win.

www.google.com/amp/amp.dailycaller.com

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Posted by Larry McNeil on 12/03/2016 at 3:38 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Journalist Christiane Amanpour Is Worried

Hillary lost the election.

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Posted by CW13 on 12/02/2016 at 9:28 PM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

LiberalFree 2016, God bless you, Sir. Way to go.

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Posted by CW13 on 12/02/2016 at 9:26 PM

Re: “A Democrat in Trumpland

That's because he cares more about Mexico then the U.S.A.

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Posted by CW13 on 12/02/2016 at 9:19 PM

Re: “Laughing Stock: Jade Esteban and Jeff MacKinnon Double Up, Puns and All About You

Trump has promised to visit the cities that voted for Hillary so that he could thank them. Where should they hold the rally?

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Posted by Hillary For Prison 2016 on 12/02/2016 at 7:45 PM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

The rest of you are racists.

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Posted by Hillary For Prison 2016 on 12/02/2016 at 7:32 PM

Re: “Quick Bites: Help Keep Monsanto Out of Pima County

AVL the stae of CA has ruled cinnamon a known carcinogen. Don't sprinkle that stuff on my buns.

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Posted by Debbi L on 12/02/2016 at 7:30 PM

Re: “Guest Opinion

"Jose Barron-Gomez died after he exchanged gunfire with Tucson police Officers Jorge Tequida and Doug Wilfert on Thursday"

I wonder what the immigration status of this guy is, maybe the Sanctuary City man SteveK can provide?

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Posted by What, Again on 12/02/2016 at 6:19 PM

Re: “Quick Bites: Help Keep Monsanto Out of Pima County

If UNESCO is for it, my instinct is to be very concerned. I have seen too much of their supposed "good works" in third-world countries, where I have worked for more than 30 years.

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Posted by Bisbee boy on 12/02/2016 at 5:56 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Mother Jones? What a racist international rag.

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Posted by Half Empty Glass on 12/02/2016 at 5:00 PM

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