"Drinking Liberally" explains a lot about Tucson. BTW I saw you guys can get 12 bottles of beer at Walgreens cheaper than 2 at a bar. So if you are too stupid to see an opportunity when you see it, LD, that's on you.
Hadley what bunch of BS, The Congressional representatives that come to the Shanty are there for one reason. That reason is Bill Nugent, Bill is by far the most connected "D" in the city. If you want to know who, what or where things are happening than he is the one who will know. The thing that you are to thick to understand is that you are playing in a league way above your head. Yes, it may be true that the DL has brought hundreds of people to the Shanty, but 5 people a week will not convince anyone that the DL is anything than a bunch of Gummy Bear eatting goofballs. I for one of many would call Bill a friend.
DL has brought hundreds of people to The Shanty-- including Congressional representatives-- and given The Shanty years of *free* publicity. Who is anonymous and how does he know how much was spent over ~eight years? Wait staff on the patio would have helped the beer sales.
It wasn't double booking. DL didn't pay for their spot, they have no grounds to be upset when asked to give up that spot to a group who paid for it. What a bunch of self centered jerks.
Ah yes, the Streetcar to Nowhere!
How about sweeping out a bus once in awhile or cleaning the seats?
Thanks for the clarification. I caught part of the FB mudslinging and since I don't frequent the DL group (I'm not a "joiner.") I was wondering if the Shanty had some sort of beef with liberals in general or something.
Sounds like they had every right to show these folks the door. Just because you have traditionally been allowed to use a space doesn't mean you own it. I guess they were asserting squatters rights or something.
Makes me very glad I'm not a "joiner" and never joined this group.
I see a "Hadley" slinging some mud at the Weekly in the comments here. Sounds like someone has a problem with adult behavior.
Tucson is very dirty compared to Scottsdale. Do they ever run the street sweeper in Tucson. I am a cyclist, and get flat tires all the time. What is that nauseating smell on the NW side. Why did they put the landfill right off of I-10? Is that to attract business, or to scare people away?
DL = boorish.
The DL'ers look pretty pale and old. Better start recruiting a younger and more diverse membership or you'll be holding your meetings at Villa Hermosa soon.
More room for those of us who love the best bar in Tucson!
You'd think at their age they'd have a foundation of manners. Coming from someone who hosts drinking activities for large groups it is very well known that drunks don't know they are being rude. I have not had much luck with quality service at the Shanty. ..but to hell with entitled drunks who don't spend.
Not for nothing, but I've had friends turned away at the door of that place for things like wearing a tanktop and being pregnant. I've never really seen the appeal of the place.
AJ Flick - sounds like they had a regular booking at the Shanty - since they address them as the "Wednesday Night Group." Would have been common courtesy to inform long time customers of a double booking.
These old white folks are ... gasp ... LIBERALS? Look more like the Oro Valley Towne Council!
Calling out your customers (even former customers) in public is bad form. Shanty, shame on you. They are right about the stale popcorn - much better places nearby. The fb post by DL was not out of line.
That's an issue that Tucson's open carry group doesn't have.
The headline is misleading. The parting was mutual. DL dumped the Shanty also. Despite the thousands of dollars DL spent at the Shanty, the hundreds of politicians we brought there to speak, and all of the free social media wasted on promoting that place, we were disrespected on many occasions by the Shanty. The June 25 event was the last double-booking we'll have to suffer. And for the record, Al Flick, it was a member of your group who walked over to the DL group and stood in the middle of it shouting and putting us down.
Good customer service goes a long way, as competition increases. With the Shanty's new competition in the downtown beer joint genre, we'll see how it goes for this "classic" in the future.
I love it when "news" organizations quote anonymous name callers as sources.
Also, the photo is still on Facebook.
I for one will not miss DL at the Shanty, Bill had every right to show them the door.
"The last DL meeting at the Shanty was horrid because Nugent booked a large group on the patio without telling DL in advance."
Sounds like Drinking Liberally just proved Bill's point. The question to DL would be, "You planned a large meeting with a speaker. Did you notify the bar that you would require the space?" Seems to me the group took a lot for granted. A bar owner should not have to notify what is supposed to be an informal group that he needs a space for a paid event. It is a business after all, not someone's living room.
The Shanty was a natural place to hold the Citizen's recent 5-year-closed anniversary party. But just because there is a regular group that has met informally there for years, we didn't just assume that there would be space for us. We asked Bill if we could hold our party there and he was gracious - AS ALWAYS - to us.
I have no connection to or beef with Drinking Liberally, but the organizers who are there now might remember this for future patronage, wherever they go. Courtesy goes a long way. If they are hosting a speaker, they might want to notify the bar in advance - not expect things to be the other way around.
I live in tucson and Scottsdale is far better. Look at all the high end resorts, shopping and entertainment establishments in scottsdale to tucson. Scottsdale is also very clean with good roads and actually looks like the economy is doing well.
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