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Re: “The Skinny

Even a rose bush can understand WHY Trump keeps going after politicians (both parties), celebrities, reporters, congress (both houses) and, sooner or later, other world leaders. It must really feel good. But there is something basically bad and even indefensible about constantly challenging the integrity of our entire legal system, threatening specific judges and intentionally prejudicing court cases long before actual decisions are made. It pushes the whole process behind police arrests and jury trials into a constitutional red zone, less access to justice for most of us and more abuse and disrespect by felons and crooks and anyone up for gaming the system.

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Posted by Sun Riser on 02/10/2017 at 1:10 PM

Re: “The Skinny

Voter fraud convictions are popping up all over the country. Why couldn't Obama find them?

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-02-10/urbana-man-charged-living-voting-us-illegally.html

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Posted by Turn Up The Heat on 02/10/2017 at 10:46 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Just like there is no vote fraud:

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/02/09/grand-prairie-woman-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud/

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Posted by Dave Nelson on 02/10/2017 at 9:56 AM

Re: “Give Me Your Huddled Masses

I have seen him do it. And it was the same water that Obama walked on.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/06/obama-new-yorker-walk-on-water.html

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/12/14/a-drunk-kim-jong-un-is-an-angry-kim-jong-un-north-korea-nuclear-test-senior-military-elders/

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Posted by Rat T on 02/10/2017 at 9:29 AM

Re: “The Skinny

AS the left celebrates the 9th Circuit decision, be reminded that their decisions are overturned over 80% of the time. Is it a justice court or a political arm of the democratic party?

When you need a heart transplant pick a doctor with an 80% failure rate.

Would you?

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Posted by Rat T on 02/10/2017 at 9:25 AM

Re: “The Skinny

You're right. There are normal and abnormal patterns of response in these comment streams. There are also normal and abnormal patterns of like and dislike additions. When there are 7 likes or dislikes added to certain comments in less than a 20 hour period, especially on a dead thread, it can be deducted that something is rotten in the state of Denmark. You still haven't acknowledged that.

Congratulations Sherlock! You have wasted your time on bad leads. Go back to Baker Street and examine the evidence further. Make sure to talk to Watson because he is a valuable resource, especially at this point because the cocaine is ruining your brain.

It's also making you paranoid. That's what cocaine and being a major troll does.

Arrivederci, troll.

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Posted by Using 7 devices may get you the likes that you don't deserve :o on 02/10/2017 at 7:57 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Muslims are not Mexicans.
When I read (NYT with interviews/quotes) that rich California farmers who voted for Trump are losing their workers I have trouble matching politics with having food on the table: you cannot pay Americans enough to get out in those fields.
There is a need for vigilance, not threats and violence, implied or actual.
There is a need for steady leadership, not strange Twitter revenge rants threatening our legal system.
How long can anyone maintain this pace in what could be the most stressful job in the world??
When this president melts down, we could all be in for a very rough ride.

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Posted by President Meltdown on 02/10/2017 at 6:57 AM

Re: “High Horses

Nick Meyers; Has brought some very useful insight into the possibilities of of bill being passed by the legislature.

I would like to take exception to this part of the article
" The argument is reminiscent of the lawsuit against Prop 205, which claimed that the law wasn't adequately explained to voters so they wouldn't know what they were passing" .

This is so true on PROP 205. I didn't have a clue to the tentacle impact of the the proposed " DMLC" seemed to me to be a replacement vehicle to the County atty and Police slush/retirement fund. Outside state investors who won't disclose contributors. At every turn of prop was a "TO BE DETERMINED". Which means we dont know, you dont know ?>>>>>> Does it really mean that, or does it mean we dont want to say, it would damage the support ?

The real clincher to prop 205 failure was the Quazi board of citizens that really had no vote, but possible recipients of DMLC handouts as success of the program and the department.

If you are going to sell this kind of heep of. This is no different than Trumps Mexican Wall. We are going to stop the illegal stuff and they are going to pay for it. The society has been paying for it since 1971 and Nixon's now they see an end of the road.

What we paid for the citizens of America war on drugs. These two groups non sustainable behemoths. This is what prop 205 was supplier and enforcer as one feeding the behemoths that consume all in it's path. Cost to benefit was always has been and will be in the negative.

If they wanted a program MPP could've followed the other states legalization structure, of incorporating the other state agencies to a combined legalization agencies effort.> Not this stand alone (police, court, license, market selling & limiting,medical restricting, revenue collecting, interstate trade, governing department) for 8 years and then maybe it will negotiate with the legislature on powers of government. WHAT!!!~!!! This was prop 205 after reading it several times it was clear.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 02/10/2017 at 4:10 AM

Re: “Give Me Your Huddled Masses

In other news, Kim Jong Un says he can boil water with his mind.

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Posted by Peabo on 02/09/2017 at 10:29 PM

Re: “Give Me Your Huddled Masses

These huddled masses?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-syrias-assad-tells-yahoo-news-some-refugees-are-definitely-terrorists-182401926.html

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Posted by Rat T on 02/09/2017 at 9:17 PM

Re: “Parental Guidance

Being so pro pot-I am betting Nick's dog uses pot now too and most likely looks like a Gremlin when it gets wet in the movie. Probably has a name that would fit a prison. But i am slightly stereotyping maybe. God bless America.

I hope your brother survived Mr Meyers.

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Posted by Castle Rock Joe on 02/09/2017 at 8:55 PM

Re: “Rep. Martha McSally, Former Rep. Ron Barber, and Courage

Martha, Martha, Martha....
If you can't stand the heat....my advice is to get out of the kitchen. Being elected by taxpayers means one must answer to their concerns. It goes with the territory. Republicans are facing an angry bunch, with good reason. Own up to voting for strip mining, own up to not demanding Trump produce his tax returns. Own up to voting against any protection of the enviorment and any protection for women making choices over their own bodies. Martha needs to own up and face her constituents.

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Posted by Tucker on 02/09/2017 at 8:44 PM

Re: “Give Me Your Huddled Masses

We have 330 million people. While we should certainly do what we can to help refugees, economic and political, admitting every poor or disadvantaged person in the world into the U.S. is not the solution to world problems. At current rates, we'll have 1 billion people by the end of the century. We don't have enough water even if we drink our toilet water.

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Posted by bslap on 02/09/2017 at 6:10 PM

Re: “The Skinny

There are normal and abnormal patterns of response in these comment streams. Usually, people keep commenting and liking and disliking posts for a few days and then the activity stops. Occasionally, someone like you takes offense to a line of argument and keeps returning to the stream and inflating the likes and dislikes in a systematic way. When there are still multiple commenters visiting the stream, the likes and dislikes fall sometimes here, sometimes there, and in different combinations. When you see patterns like what developed here and in the January comment stream on vouchers, you know there is a troll -- in this case you -- systematically distorting the responses.

You can protest as much as you like, but what happened here in both of these streams is I caught you at it, tricked you into responding in a way that would make clear to anyone who read the stream what you were doing, and outed you.

Please do keep playing your tricks. I have a very full life but it often involves wait time and I enjoy checking in on the streams on my mobile phone when I'm stuck in a holding pattern. This kind of detective work is amusing, especially when it involves the "outing" of trolls who have nothing to offer but backing up the ignorant PCDP party line with transparent manipulation of comment streams and mean-spirited, below the belt insults of other commenters.

In the unlikely event that anyone besides the two of us is reading this stream I will note that anyone can access the other exchange we had RE your comment stream behaviors through this link:
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/archives/2017/01/04/private-school-vouchers-are-bad-for-arizona-discuss

Cheers, troll.

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Posted by You know what they say about people who live in glass houses... on 02/09/2017 at 5:51 PM

Re: “Rep. Martha McSally, Former Rep. Ron Barber, and Courage

Many on the left don't put much stock in that book, Rat T, but there are a good number of us that do.

Even in the current ugly, "reactive" political scene, there are more on the left using non-confrontational, constructive means to forward our policy goals than there are people breaking windows and screaming obscenities. But you know the media: it will always be the bad behavior and the sensational story that garners the most coverage.

As for this comment stream: Safier promoted the aims of a group that is targeting McSally, and this post was no doubt forwarded to their entire extended network, hence the large # of dislikes on posts that don't jump on the "disparage McSally" bandwagon.

And the usual suspects are of course offering up their vacuous, mean-spirited insults. Too bad they don't just find another hobby. Seems to me they foster an inaccurate and negative image of what "liberals" believe and how they behave, damaging the very cause they seem to want to promote.

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Posted by I suppose civility is too much to ask for here? on 02/09/2017 at 5:15 PM

Re: “Police Dispatch

For the first incident -- you can't fix stupid, and for the second... well, pretty much the same thing, although it would be nice if they could suspend people's driver's licenses for road rage incidents.

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Posted by sgsmith on 02/09/2017 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Give Me Your Huddled Masses

Humpty Trumpty promised a wall
Humpty Trumpty repeated his call
But all of his lackeys and all his minions
Couldn't silence Liberty's calling again.

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Posted by sgsmith on 02/09/2017 at 4:57 PM

Re: “Here’s Your Chance to Win Thousands of Dollars

It would be my luck that the first question is "in 2016 how many times did TPD call for ICE when finding illegals in the city?"

My guess is zero. That's because we are a sanctuary city.

http://www.ojjpac.org/sanctuary.asp

Tucson Arizona has been added to the sanctuary city list because the Tucson police have instituted a new policy which prevents their officers from calling Immigration and Customs Enforcement to schools and churches.

https://www.azpm.org/p/home-articles-news/2017/1/26/105279-tucson-police-chief-sanctuary-ban-wont-work/

When in fact by calling ICE makes TPD's job is easier and the community is safer. We don't have to worry about criminals that have been deported.

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Posted by Patty Cake on 02/09/2017 at 4:45 PM

Re: “Give Me Your Huddled Masses

Palisades - what a great idea! In fact, so great it should be considered by the Tucson City Council. You know how they allow comments by the public. Well, they could pass an ordinance that only approved speakers could make comments. Why, Tucson could be a model for the rest of the country! A Safe Sanctuary City.

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Posted by What, Again on 02/09/2017 at 4:18 PM

Re: “The Skinny

Now, there's a comment that accomplishes a lot.

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Posted by CW13 on 02/09/2017 at 4:15 PM

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