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Re: “Media Watch

Where is this week's column?

Posted by SonoranWinds on 08/28/2014 at 4:57 PM

Re: “Who wants to be a teacher?

Well Tom, YOU have typed a article that got some response. I guess that YOU have succeeded in YOUR mind and in YOUR editors minds. It doesn't matter that YOU have put the proper spin and used the partial truth to do it. Right Tom. YOU made money for YOURSELF. No guilt, YOU did it for YOUR kids.

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Posted by Harlan Thomas on 08/28/2014 at 4:56 PM

Re: “Gov Race: Ducey vs. DuVal

Ducey made his fortune bankrupting hopeful entrepreneurs by over-promising and under-performing. In an earlier time, he'd be traveling between towns with a wagon full of snake oil.

Posted by Jimmy Zuma on 08/28/2014 at 4:31 PM

Re: “Who wants to be a teacher?

If the state would be willing to cut school admin in half and put that money towards teacher's pay and school supplies (teachers have to buy their own today) I know many teachers who have either retired early or changed jobs because they can't afford to make ends meet on a teacher's pay. Not to mention the out of control kids, the kids who need special ed (teachers are no longer allowed to recommend this or ask that the child at least be tested), they can't complain about kids who miss half the school years and so on.... Now AZ is basing their pay with the kid's grades - how can you deal with that when you have kids who don't belong in a regular classroom? Their pay gets cut because of the ignorance of the schools! I have friends who teach college level too. They are getting students who don't even know what a paragraph is, much less the other basic skills you need in college. What a mess!

Posted by Sally Chandler on 08/28/2014 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Mercer Calls for Grijalva's Excommunication and the Congressman Suggests She Listen to the Pope

Way to go Gabby.

You got his goat!

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Posted by Rat T on 08/28/2014 at 4:16 PM

Re: “(Common) Core Wars

Michael, I love the phrase, "Our kids will be the beta testers." I may use that at some time, unless you want to invoke copyright privileges.

Posted by David Safier on 08/28/2014 at 3:09 PM

Re: “(Common) Core Wars

From my perspective as an unabashed and unapologetic supporter of public education Common Core while a good idea, is seriously flawed. Here's why:
1. Too much Federal Government involvement waiving big checks to under-resourced school districts. To get the money the districts have to drink the Koolaid.
2. Too much involvement by big testing and big book companies. They stand to make a fortune out of supporting CC and will lobby and work to drive it their way so they can profit.
3. One form of high stakes testing will simply replace another form of high stakes testing but we will still have high stakes testing paralyzing our education system.
4. It has not been tested anywhere, instead Arne Duncan rolled it out. It's a high risk and our kids will be the beta testers - first time out. Not smart. Our kids education is a one shot deal, I don't think that we ought to be experimenting with it without having a reasonable assurance that the outcome will be positive- by testing it under controlled conditions in a few selected districts.
I still believe that we need to let teachers teach and stop messing with programs to "make things better" when we just increase the burden on those who struggle to make it work. Let's take the money and put it into better pay and more classroom resources rather than launch yet another federal initiative, remember "no child left behind" or "race to the top" or any one of the initiatives of the month? They did not work either, my confidence is not with the feds on this.

Posted by Michael S. Ellegood on 08/28/2014 at 2:39 PM

Re: “Who wants to be a teacher?

Every public school teacher I ask complains more about admin, parents and the kids, than anything else. But then they go on to blame it on funding. I think they believe if more money flowed they would get it.

Public schools? Never happen. They are a "for profit" business. It's just hard to account for how they hide the profit. Some of them steal food from the lunchroom. Some steal computers.

There is such poor accountability...

http://www.kvoa.com/news/64-laptops-stolen-from-tusd-schools/

http://tucson.com/news/blogs/police-beat/ex-tusd-worker-gets-probation-in-theft-case/article_f31305e9-d963-581b-b95c-8e2287005773.html

http://tucson.com/news/local/education/failure-to-report-allowed-tusd-property-theft-to-go-on/article_cd8d79e5-7ab6-5e9c-a00b-88ce7e09c6b7.html

In 2009, TUSD agreed to report to the state Attorney General "any violation of Arizona procurement statutes or rules, conflict of interest statutes, antitrust statutes, the Consent Judgment, or the intentional destruction of public records within five (5) business days." The Arizona Attorney General may accordingly receive copies of complaints received by the Audit Committee as required to comply with this agreement. (from TUSD website)

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Posted by Rat T on 08/28/2014 at 2:19 PM

Re: “(Common) Core Wars

The good news is that no one is really buying the whole enchilada and the Common Core with its associated testing programs will be dead by 2016 (there's an election coming up). The bad new is that between CCSS and NCLB entire cohorts of students over the past dozen years have been shortchanged as guinea pigs in two failed experiments.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 08/28/2014 at 2:18 PM

Re: “(Common) Core Wars

This reads like nobody really likes it. I still haven't heard an accurate synopsis of what the good is from it.

The NEA has a pitiful track record when it comes to change.

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Posted by Rat T on 08/28/2014 at 2:00 PM

Re: “Who wants to be a teacher?

"Republicans have hated unions in an inexplicably visceral manner." Wrong adverb, Tom. You are the Prince of the Royalty that reigns over the 'Lie with statistics' realm. The last time I checked, the average salary for teachers in Tucson was well over $50,000. Harping on starting salary may bolster your preconceived conclusion, but it is hardly enlightening. More than any other institution, even more than the legislature, Teacher Unions are the cause of the demise of public education, presently a 150 year experiment that has failed.

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Posted by chuckj on 08/28/2014 at 1:12 PM

Re: “Who wants to be a teacher?

I am a public school teacher in TUSD teaching at one of the top three public high schools in the state (that should narrow it down for you). Not only is my school overcrowded and underserved, but our resources have been so thoroughly slashed that we have no paper, ink, books, or tech to speak of. We must exit the campus to use the restrooms, as none exist near most “classrooms,” many of which are discarded (and possibly moldy) Katrina portables. Despite all of this, our students out-perform most and are generally unaware that they have been taken to the cleaners by the backwards-thinking legislature. Most of our faculty are seasoned veterans like myself, and each has fought fiercely and valiantly to remain in the classroom where we are most effective. I have in my possession a promissory note from the District that shows what I am owed in back pay even BEFORE the grand theft that occurred over the last decade. Short of a class-action lawsuit, our hands are tied because if we do leave, the back monies we are owed may never be paid. We used to call this indentured servitude, but now we call it teaching in the public school system.

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Posted by sabasabas on 08/28/2014 at 12:48 PM

Re: “Local GoFundMe Campaign for Black Lives Matter Ride to Help Send Five Tucsonans to Ferguson

I'm thrilled about the efforts of these young activists, and I'm appalled at the comments so far. Dave D says, "Why not wait to pass judgment after the officer is found guilty in a court of law"? And I ask, Why didn't innocent-until-proven-guilty apply to the kid who was murdered on the street by a man with a badge and a gun? Where was Michael Brown's court of law? What was he guilty of, besides walking in this country while black? Shame on all of you! The shop owner was not "slapped around," shazam, and Michael Brown was not a "brute," he was someone's beloved son. The store owner has said in interviews that nothing wrong happened at the store, there is video of Mike paying for his cigars, and even if he HAD stolen something, shoplifting is not punishable by death-without-trial, and the cop/murderer hadn't heard any police report about a crime anyway. Get some facts before spewing, all of you.

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Posted by blaze_mason on 08/28/2014 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Bloggers Flex Their Muscle In The Huppenthal Primary

The trouble that I see with Diane Douglas is that she is a one trick pony. Her continuing mantra is, "Defeat Common Core". Ok, fine, now what. How are we going to fund education in this State? How are we going to get more resources into the public classroom? Where is Diane on vouchers? So far there has been no platform on which to evaluate what she wants to do. Her win was more anti-Huppenthal than pro-Diane.
I'm voting for Garcia, he at least has a background in education though as a Dem in a red state, it's doubtful that he will be heard by the 90 gnomes

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Posted by Michael S. Ellegood on 08/28/2014 at 11:54 AM

Re: “The Skinny

This whole ALS Challenge has gotten out of control.

Another death reported:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/scottish-teenager-dies-attempting-elaborate-ice-bucket-challenge-stunt-reort-article-1.1916200

Maybe our elected officials should stop promoting it.

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Posted by Rat T on 08/28/2014 at 11:01 AM

Re: “Local GoFundMe Campaign for Black Lives Matter Ride to Help Send Five Tucsonans to Ferguson

I would think they might want to wait for the evidence to see if this was a justified shooting. Otherwise aren't they there based on incorrect assumptions?

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Posted by Rat T on 08/28/2014 at 10:57 AM

Re: “Bloggers Flex Their Muscle In The Huppenthal Primary

It is interesting that former Superintendent, Lisa Graham Keegan, also came from Peoria. After the bad news finally hit the mainstream press regarding Huppenthal, Keegan came out strongly against him. Keegan new the right-wing could lose if Huppenthal won the primary. Millions of right-wing dollars, and much of the mainstream media, will now go for Douglas.

Now, here is the challenge bloggers who care about education: get people registered to vote in November, get them to vote, and get the voters to vote for David Garcia.

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Posted by Dave Gallagher on 08/28/2014 at 10:39 AM

Re: “The Head of BASIS Tucson North Responds

"What to do with students who don't want or can't handle an accelerated standardized test-based curriculum." hmmm...isn't the real question, "what to do with students and parents who feel entitled just for participating?"
The discussions around accessability, pegagogy, selective process, etc...are all very interesting, really. The real problem with BASIS not being a one size fits all (as public schools are forced to imply they are) is culture.
The culture at BASIS is to prepare students for the real world, teaching life skills that will help them in real life. For example, students are responisble for tracking assignments and completing on time. If work isn't completed on time it doesn't earn homework credit. If my job requires me to complete a project in a timely manner, I am held accountable. There is no make-up or extra credit for failure. ACCOUNTABILITY is the culture.
It sounds to me that many of the opponents of this education prefer to live life with a victim mentallity. The 'cant's' and the 'wont's' never cease. Reasons are excuses, plain and simple. The tools and resources are available for those who CHOOSE to take advantage. The rest CHOOSE the option that gives a warm and fuzzy feeling when little Johnny fails, a culture of ACCOMMODATION.
What is really disturbing is that our Public School system is overburdened with a population of students just coasting through. They have no choice but to accomodate this crowd, discipline and accountability are dirty words at TUSD because parents demand it. "My child was late to class, how dare the teacher not let them in to disrupt the lesson and everyone elses learning!" "My child did not follow the dress code, how dare you have a policy in place that I don't agree with" "My child is failing because the teacher doesn't like them, they need to change teachers NOW!"
I would venture to guess that most parents who choose BASIS initially and then choose to leave thought that showing up would make their child successful. Sadly that is not the case. There is a process of learning and developing skills that takes time and energy that not everyone is willing to invest. That's not an elimination process, it's reality. In the real world we have innovators and entreprenuers as well as data entry persons. There is no one size fits all when the drive isn't there.

Posted by Living in Reality on 08/28/2014 at 10:36 AM

Re: “The Skinny

I would like to hope that voters in Marana, Oro Valley and the Catalina Foothills, and a few on the western edge of the Tanque Verde Valley, are shaking their heads at each and every instance of their chosen Supervisor's antics and promising themselves that in 2016 they'll vote for Anyone But Ally. Meanwhile, Ally, why not sit back in silence, observe Ray Carroll at work, and try to comprehend how an intelligent Republican can be of service to constituents and to all of Pima County?

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Posted by franklymydears on 08/28/2014 at 8:39 AM

Re: “Gov Race: Ducey vs. DuVal

"I want to congratulate Fred on his big win," Ducey said haughtily. DuVal ran opposed in tonight's Democratic primary. "We know this guy is simply unstoppable, as long as he doesn't have an opponent."

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfev…

Way to keep it classy, Ducey.

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Posted by Pima Mujer on 08/28/2014 at 8:26 AM

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