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Re: “Op-ed: What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand?

Reminds me of 2006 - we were living in Oracle when the Glow festival held annually at the Triangle L Ranch was invaded by Pinal County Sheriff's deputies. Eight deputies raided what they thought was a rave or worse and stampeded the peaceful arts festival frightening the families gathered there including kids and elderly residents. Not quite a police riot but an ugly incident that with a different crowd might have erupted into violence.…

The difference was the Sheriff at that time acknowledged the deputies' terrible judgement and apologized for their behavior. This time the sheriff orchestrated the near mayhem and insists he did nothing wrong in leaking the news of an invasion of disease ridden aliens to his friend, a rabble rousing xenophobe, and his dozens of followers.

If you are curious about the people of Oracle drive up and attend this year's Glow festival in September. Not quite Woodstock - but a far cry from Murietta.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/17/2014 at 4:01 PM

Re: “Another Lens at the Oracle Protest/Counter Protest

Well, you can't fix stupid...but you can ensure they're well armed and uneducated.

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Posted by Not a Rancho Snob on 07/17/2014 at 3:58 PM

Re: “Babeu "Dialing For Dollars" Off The Oracle Incident He Created

We'll put mr. Hahn. Ignorance spawns hate and fear. And what is criminal, is the hypocrisy of the "Christ-like" xenophobes of the republicant sect.

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Posted by Hupp & Neanderthal on 07/17/2014 at 2:55 PM

Re: “Op-ed: What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand?

Hey, Rangers. This was originally written by Mo Goldman. He's the mastermind behind this op-ed. The author field didn't updated like it should have. Sorry for the confusion.

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Posted by Henry Barajas on 07/17/2014 at 2:10 PM

Re: “Reefer Research Madness

Career Researcher, although its not clear what a "career researcher" is or does, at least not to me; I suspect a quick check of your IP address will show this spin-doctoring came from the senate or the University

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Posted by NJYD on 07/17/2014 at 1:24 PM

Re: “Op-ed: What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand?

Yup, facts have a liberal bias. These xenophobic clowns are all about the rule of law- except when they're not. To them, the rule of law only counts when it conveniently gives them a chance to wallow in their hatred. Keep screaming at school children, wingnuts. Show the whole world what horrible people you really are...

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Posted by Pete Hahn on 07/17/2014 at 1:22 PM

Re: “Op-ed: What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand?

To Marty's point, I wonder if those stopping buses of immigrant children would defend the first amendment rights and civil disobedience acts of pro-immigrant & human rights activists. Back in October of last year, activists stopped buses full of immigrants and have been charged with felonies. Those activists were protesting the fast food version of justice immigrants are provided at operation streamline hearings. Why is it that one shade of activist gets arrested and charged with felonies when another shade is not. Hell the protesters in Murrieta and Oracle are being supported, if not outright led, by local law enforcement. In Murrieta, it wasn't the protesters that were turning back buses full of immigrants, it was the local police. In Oracle, it was Paul Babeu who orchestrated and was ready to use his officers to post against a federal agency. why haven't those parties been held responsible? Why are those who stand for human rights get the heavy hand of the law? There definitely an inequity in the handling of all of this. Most importantly to the migrants who get pushed/pulled out of their places of origin and then again here which is where the push/pull factors originate from.

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Posted by Carlos on 07/17/2014 at 12:58 PM

Re: “Op-ed: What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand?

I hope you remember this recitation of statutes these protesters may have broken the next time people of an entirely different political persuasion attempt to block buses carrying people about to be deported for entering the country illegally.

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Posted by Marty on 07/17/2014 at 12:39 PM

Re: “Op-ed: What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand?

When you call those who use slogans you don't like 'Schmucks" you are showing the shallowness of your argument and undermining whatever facts and arguments you can bring to bear in support of your position. Name calling and ad hominem attacks are about as ineffective as yelling "Go home to your own country" at a bunch of kids on their way to summer camp.

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Posted by Marty on 07/17/2014 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Reefer Research Madness

Career Researcher.... its called a hypothesis. The purpose of research and the scientific method is to test hypothesis put forth at the start of a study. I have confidence that an FDA-approved, triple-blind study would be more about collecting and interpreting data, not drawing conclusions that are not supported by that data.

In addition, wouldn't the study be peer reviewed so that it is not merely Dr. Sisley's conclusions, but a consensus of the scientific community?

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Posted by Jonathan Starrett on 07/17/2014 at 12:19 PM

Re: “Op-ed: What Part of Illegal Don't You Understand?

Careful, Henry! You'll start confusing people with facts and get them all riled up because they can't comprehend!

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Posted by Ldonyo on 07/17/2014 at 12:17 PM

Re: “Babeu "Dialing For Dollars" Off The Oracle Incident He Created

Funny thing, bobo, is that the liberals in Washington D.C. have been trying to get real immigration legislation (not that 'build-a-giant-wall' nonsense) passed for a while now. They keep running into a roadblock with a big, red 'R' painted on it.

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Posted by Ldonyo on 07/17/2014 at 12:16 PM

Re: “Babeu "Dialing For Dollars" Off The Oracle Incident He Created

Here's a picture of one of those "criminals" you're talking about…

That's Alejandro, age eight- quite the hardened criminal, amirite? See how he is "invading" the country, as he meekly presents his birth certificate to a Border Patrol agent? He sure looks dangerous. He's fleeing the chaos caused by a coup d'état by the Honduran military and all the human rights abuses from the interim government, as well as the death squads.

These are the children that you call criminals who are invading the U.S. You smear them, dehumanize them, call them disease ridden- anything to rationalize your hatred and xenophobia. Yes Laura, you ARE inhumane and full of irrational fear and hate, too. These children are not invading, they've been apprehended and are now being housed in accordance with the law you claim to so cherish while they are given due process before they are processed and then sent home to face more of the insane violence that they fled.

That you don't even realize that the U.S. is in fact following the law and is in the process of likely deporting Alejandro and his fellow children shows just how misinformed you are as well. That dangerous combination of irrational hatred, xenophobia and ignorance makes you the perfect mark for an unethical con man like Babeau. He milks your anger to further his political career- you're the perfect rube. Congratulations, this article is about you...

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Posted by Pete Hahn on 07/17/2014 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Babeu "Dialing For Dollars" Off The Oracle Incident He Created

It should be made clear that government is following law that was passed by unanimous Congress and signed by President Bush. These children have to go through process and deported or given asylum. Media needs to be better at educating people as government officials should also be.

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Posted by Artemisa Lopez on 07/17/2014 at 11:58 AM

Re: “Smith Speaks: "It's Gut-Check Time"

Much better at answering the question that Doug Ducey whose eyes glaze over every time he is asked an important question that is not about him.

Posted by Carl ToersBijns on 07/17/2014 at 11:22 AM

Re: “Media Watch


They cut my comment! I did use a bad word. But only one. Oh well. Did not intend to but what the neck it's the Tucson Weekly.
Basically I will save my money and just go by the New York Times on Sunday and read it all week. (it will take that long) and catch up on the news. The only thing I used the Star for was the movie times and the obits and U of A Football coverage.
The articles had the smell of Progressive slime anyway.
My blood pressure is just fine. In fact since I retired from gov't service it has gone way down! lol

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Posted by Fraser on 07/17/2014 at 11:18 AM

Re: “Babeu "Dialing For Dollars" Off The Oracle Incident He Created

Sounds like a plan to me. Why does the media think that we should have to cater to these criminals - yes, criminals. They have invaded our country. They get all the media/press they need while those of us who do not want them here have to shell out our taxpayer dollars to be heard and then we are called inhumane.

Send them all home or send them to Bill Gates and Warren Buffet and that other yahoo. Better yet, there's plenty of room at the inn - The White House.

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Posted by Laura Simonsen on 07/17/2014 at 11:14 AM

Re: “Media Watch

I'm also curious how many items you get to access before you have to pay? I don't subscribe and so far have been reading it the same as I always have. I wonder if the wire stories (that you can find elsewhere) count toward your monthly total? Still so many unanswered questions that I don't feel like searching for. The information should be front and center.

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Posted by Just a Reader on 07/17/2014 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Media Watch

I will miss the wonderful mugshots -that's about it

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/17/2014 at 10:30 AM

Re: “Wish Max Cannon a Happy, Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday Max! I worked the front office in the mid90s when Doug still owned it.
You would flirt w/me on the phone and said my voice was sexy! You always made my day.
You're a twisted man and I love you for it...Mmmaugh!!! <3

Posted by Pammy Culhane on 07/17/2014 at 10:04 AM

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