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Re: “Mysteries in the Mountains

I can tell you this, I believe. My name is Linda,I live in Yuma, Arizona. I can't tell you anything about the other stories other than I enjoyed them very much, but I can tell you that I have a video of something (lights) that is proof that there is something out there in our universe with intelligence,and is not human. It travels way to fast whatever it is. It is not flares,drones,stars or any kind of military aircraft. I would love to post my video of this here for you all to see, and on YouTube, but I have yet to find anyone who can tell me anything about what it is or who to get in touch with that can tell me anything. If anyone can help me please email me at lindasue@myself.com I have let several friends view this video,and like me,they are totally amazed by the contents,and I never believed before I seen these lights that anything like that was possible. I can assure you that now I'm a believer!!

Posted by Linda on 02/12/2017 at 4:22 AM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

Wrong again, Frances Perkins.

I student taught in TUSD and taught in a Catholic school. As a parent, I have volunteered in (and raised money for) both private schools and TUSD schools.

At this point I have probably donated more free labor to benefit TUSD than most. This is what people who know the district's schools, Board and current administration understand: there is nothing wrong with the students in the district. The problems are with the Board and administration and the political machine surrounding them, which do not serve students' best interests.

As for your perspective on how a Catholic education should be funded: a lot has changed since your parents put you through Catholic school. The current estimated cost of attending Arizona public universities for in-state residents is $25K per year. The current cost of private colleges and universities is more than $60K per year, 300% more than it was 30 years ago. That means the cost is $100K per child for a public university degree, $250K per child for a private university degree. Catholic families are not as large as they used to be, but how many families can afford to pay private tuition for K-12 in a context where this much must be saved for college? Catholic schools risk extinction unless they can find ways to make themselves affordable in a context in which real wages and job security for the middle class have stagnated or declined and the cost of higher education has skyrocketed.

Public policy on education needs to be formulated based on real data and the real needs of students and teachers, not utopian fantasy, not hysterical anti-privatization rhetoric, not the desire to line the pockets of the local political machine, and not anti-Catholic bias. There are other Western nations that cover the full cost of education in both "public" and "Catholic" schools -- it is the parents' choice where those tax dollars are applied. In these countries, both systems are properly overseen to guarantee quality academics and both systems are fully financially transparent, as all institutions using public funds should be.

Why don't we have a system like this here? There is no valid reason. This is the invalid reason that forms the sub-text of policy and funding debates surrounding Catholic schools: the persistence in America of various types of anti-Catholic, anti-immigrant bias (Irish, Polish, Italian, Mexican and others -- they've all been made to suffer at various points from the WASP establishment's disdain for their traditions, their beliefs, and the educational institutions that have been understood to perpetuate them).

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Posted by Wrong again, "Frances Perkins." on 02/11/2017 at 9:09 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

Yep - Frances hates Catholics. Sorry you had a failing experience.

As a '74 graduate of TUSD I can attest to the degradation. From a strong, proud district to nothing more than a liberal indoctrination center enriching the likes of H.T. Sanchez under direction of the Grijalva's by exploiting illegals to fill the seats. Make no mistake, the Grijalva's have transformed TUSD into their personal radical chicano indoctrination center. I knew my priority as a parent was to insure my children did NOT attend TUSD, to use my CHOICE for their education.

And thousands and thousands of others made the same decision.

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Posted by What, Again on 02/11/2017 at 7:19 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

Wrong again, flunked, rat and again. I went to a Catholic school for 12 years, and my parents paid for both systems, without taxpayer handouts for tuition, and sacrificed for the choice, and did it gladly. They didn't have millions from DeVos to lobby for handing over taxpayer money to the schools. I spent time volunteering at an central city Tucson school with kids from all over the world. They are great kids, lovely kids, with parents dedicated to education PAID BY TAXPAYERS AS THEY SHOULD. when was the last time you geniuses volunteered in a PUBLIC school and read to kindergarteners?

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 02/11/2017 at 7:00 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

I personally witnessed the rot and decay of TUSD in the 80s. And I couldn't imagine it could get any worse. How wrong I was.

Give the parents a chance to help their own children. Anything less is brutally selfish. Why?

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Posted by Rat T on 02/11/2017 at 1:46 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

Frances Perkins - why do you hate Catholics?

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Posted by What, Again on 02/11/2017 at 12:56 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

False, false, and false, "Frances Perkins."

0% correct, you flunk.

Those who comment in these streams providing information about what is actually going on locally -- as opposed you and others who live in an "ANTI-PRIVATIZATION!!!" fantasy land and provide nothing but falsehoods and ideologically-driven prejudice against a religious group and its institutions -- don't "hate TUSD." We hate lies, the misapplication of funds, filthy quid-pro-quo politicos and the bidders who donate to their campaigns, and we hate the FACT that children are being poorly served by institutions that receive hundreds of millions of tax dollars every year that are supposed to benefit STUDENTS and TEACHERS.

How many TUSD Board meetings and Site Council meetings have you attended in the last 3 years? I'm guessing zero, because your commentary reveals NO knowledge of real events, real policy and funding allocation decisions -- just ideological bullshit in post after sad post. I believe you did reveal at one point that you had attended Salpointe. What's the matter, did you have a bad experience there, and did it fuel a life-long hatred of the Church and a desire to undermine and handicap the high functioning schools it runs locally, which have at this point provided excellent educations to hundreds of thousands of people, Catholic and non-Catholic, who unlike you remain grateful for what they have received?

(By the way, you forgot to answer the question asked above: what would you say to parents in the sadly mismanaged, recently de-magnetized TUSD schools: "Conditions here are as good as you deserve, you definitely shouldn't use vouchers to transfer your kids to a Catholic school -- they might learn reading and math, but they could also pick up the wrong ideas about WOMEN'S REPRODUCTION"?)

Bulletin from the real world, Frances Perkins. Individuals decide for themselves whether they will follow or reject the values they are taught in school. But if they move from one grade to the next without the knowledge in each content area they need to succeed at the next level, they will be permanently handicapped in their educational prospects. And whether or not their parents' choices conformed to the prejudices of the ANTI-PRIVATIZERS!!! will not do them a damn bit of good in making up for academic deficits.

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Posted by "Frances" flunked the test. on 02/11/2017 at 11:13 AM

Re: “Editor's Note

Mari. You still haven't explained your Trump is a racist comment. Well?

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Posted by CW13 on 02/11/2017 at 10:46 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Snort snort snort...Paranoia.

Snort snort snort...Paranoia!

The troll here adds
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I read and I
can not believe
All the bullshit.

Paranoia will destroy ya!

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Posted by Cocaine will make Swiss cheese out of your brain! on 02/11/2017 at 10:35 AM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

Fetish. I hate TUSD. I Hate TUSD. To some here this hatred justifies every illegal, irrational, unconstitutional act by the bought and paid for Arizona legislature. This biggest lie they use to justify these illegal acts, is that they are helping low income students. They care not one iota about poor kids. I demand you help me pay my Salpointe or Brophy tuition with public money, is the real message.

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 02/11/2017 at 10:32 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Thanks for the tip. I talked to Watson and this is what he said:

Congrats, Sherlock. You found someone systematically distorting two comment streams to align the likes and dislikes, which had previously had a different distribution, with PCDP orthodoxy. You provoked the troll into revealing that yes, it was the same troll visiting both streams every day to check on where things stood and alter them if need be. In that both streams relate to PCDP positions on school funding and governance, it seems likely that the troll is a PCDP maven and / or a supporter of the TUSD Board majority which Rachael Sedgwick recently had the gall to criticize and, through her election, to break up.

Case closed.

(Good luck, Rachael. You've got a very tough job ahead of you and some of those affiliated with your opponents seem to play dirty.)

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Posted by Watson said: "Case closed." :o) on 02/11/2017 at 9:11 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Yes, the entire legal system. Respect starts at the top, not at our level. Trump has been shouting down judges and ridiculing decisions for years. Defend Trump all you want, but he has no keen legal mind, just self-interest. And, due to his appointment authority, he can now test the integrity of the system and cause trouble from initial action upwards as appeals rise to the top (which he also will be able to appoint). There has as yet been no indication that Trump will not continue to harass judges and call for rulings in his favor before the judges can carefully and correctly decide the merits. We can hope they all stay independent, but the system is already suspect due to you-know-who.
Don't usually send links, but this new one from AP is called "Trump's tweets could make life tough for federal lawyers ".
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tru…

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Posted by Sun Riser on 02/11/2017 at 7:02 AM

Re: “Cinema Clips: Split

Are you serious? Are you actually implying that "Signs" was a good movie? I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Whether "Split" is any good or not remains to be seen, but after an opening line like yours, I can't consider myself enlightened by your writeup.

Posted by Richard Cranium on 02/11/2017 at 4:38 AM

Re: “FBI Agents and Others Asking: 'Who is Carmen Chenal?'

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Posted by Patty Thomas 1 on 02/10/2017 at 9:03 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

...and no, just advocating for increased funding is NOT advocating for the decent functioning of the public district system. The system has many, many problems that cannot be fixed -- and may be exacerbated -- by increasing funding without simultaneously increasing responsible oversight.

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Posted by & p.s.: improving them requires more than increasing funding. on 02/10/2017 at 8:50 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

We don't live in Finland, David. Conditions are different there in so many ways it would be difficult to count them all.

And let's be clear, this is what anti-choice advocacy supports, in practice, in the here and now, with conditions as they are:

--If you have enough money, you have the full range of educational choices: a public district school in a safe, affluent neighborhood, or an Independent school, a Catholic school, a Jewish school, a Waldorf, school, a Montessori school...whatever.

--If you don't have disposable income to spare and / or the means of transporting your child to a site remote from your neighborhood, your only option is the public district school in your neighborhood. And many public district schools in poor urban neighborhoods are poorly supplied, poorly staffed, and sometimes dangerous.

It really baffles me how it is that supposedly "liberal," compassionate people earnestly desire to return to this way of structuring options for the rich and the poor -- and some of these people, the worst among them -- advocate for it when they themselves have used private rather than public schools for their own children.

(Perhaps "Frances Perkins" will materialize and find some way of explaining this that doesn't make it seem like a form of oppression of the disadvantaged. Tell us, Frances: what would you recommend to parents who live in the immediate neighborhood of one of the recently de-magnetized schools in TUSD? "Your kids may not be able to learn anything in classrooms staffed with long term subs rather than fully qualified teachers, and the discipline problems that occur when teachers have not been given the behavior management training the desegregation plan requires certainly don't make it any easier, but at least this public school is conveying the right ideas about WOMEN'S REPRODUCTION?")

But the most damning aspect of most anti-choicers I know is this: when it comes to the lies, the abuses, the misapplications of funds, the numerous violations of professional protocols from hiring to bidding to safety protocols...you name it...in our largest local fabulous PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT, the strongest anti-choice advocates, who want to lock kids into these malfunctioning schools, are SILENT. Their advocacy for the decent functioning of the public district system is 100% MIA.

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Posted by If you love public district schools so much, IMPROVE THEM. on 02/10/2017 at 8:23 PM

Re: “'Drawing Dicks on the Tucson Weekly' Might Be My New Favorite Facebook Group [NSFW]

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Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

In Arizona we are allowed to fund religious schools, through STO's and tax credits, individual and corporate. That seems appropriate in a country whose Constitution guarantees freedom of religion. However, an odd interpretation of the separation of church and state (which was framed to try to prevent the state enforcing membership in a state-sponsored church, like England's) has encouraged a class of people in this country to froth at the mouth when they think of tax dollars going to schools affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church -- and to believe their prejudice can be justified through reference to the Founders' principles.

Why the hatred of public funds supporting religious schools, especially Catholic schools, which, as David has written previously, are the primary beneficiaries of tax credits in Arizona? There are a number of reasons given, and a number of reasons cloaked, but you don't have to dig too deep in American history to find a strong strain of anti-Catholic prejudice. Sometimes, in this region, it's mixed with anti-Hispanic prejudice.

David: I know you're a fan of desegregation and social justice, which, one would hope, would have something to do with minority families having easy access to forms of schooling that meet their children's academic needs while being respectful and supportive of their values, their traditions, and their beliefs. What would a survey of the Hispanic residents in Southern Arizona find: what percent of that cohort would prefer to send their children to a public district school, or to the Catholic school of their choice, if the cost and convenience were the same?

The Catholic schools I know in Tucson are more, not less racially integrated than the public district schools I know. They are more, not less, socio-economically integrated as well -- and that datum has made progress in the right direction BECAUSE OF the introduction of tax credits, which enable thousands of students who would not otherwise have been able to attend to do so.

Stop deriving your commentary from US News & World Report, and / or PCDP and TEA talking points, and / or Diane Ravitch and NPE. Come down from Cloud-Cuckoo Land and look at the world and the people around you in Southern Arizona. Perhaps if you did, you would see that YOU are the cultural imperialist, determined to impose your inaccurate idea of what is BEST on other people's children. They don't want what you want, David. They don't believe what you believe. And when it comes to TUSD vs. Diocese of Tucson schools, what you are trying to force on them is a distinctly inferior form of education in every respect.

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Posted by Safier is a cultural imperialist. on 02/10/2017 at 6:33 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

Silly infidels. 'Choice' is only allowed to kill yet to be born children, not to allow you to choose the education for your born children.

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Posted by What, Again on 02/10/2017 at 6:29 PM

Re: “Countries That Embraced Vouchers Made the Wrong School Choice

It appears that your vision is to lower all the standards to equal the failing public schools.

Like the Beatle song. "give choice a chance."

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Posted by Ring Go Starr on 02/10/2017 at 4:57 PM

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