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Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

Why is it so much easier to equate "spending more on schools" with measurable (?) student progress (on what?) than with paying teachers a living wage commensurate with their education and experience as with other professions? Why is it so easy to dismiss all of the extra personnel required to educate many more diverse and neglected students over the last 30 years as "spending more on schools" without acknowledging the societal changes that have required those extra personnel?

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Posted by gcb1 on 08/16/2016 at 11:05 PM

Re: “Ducey 'Next Step' Watch: Day 89. "No More Reading Tea Leaves" Edition

Why would anyone who voted no on 123 be surprised? I hate to be in the position of saying "I told you so," David, but anyone who has lived in AZ for more than 30 years, and I am at more than 50 years here, knows that the current majority refuses to fund education properly in our state. I knew the governor and the legislative majority could not be trusted, let alone the school boards, and I will vote accordingly in November. Didn't 301 teach you a proper lesson?

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Posted by gcb1 on 08/16/2016 at 9:14 PM

Re: “Ducey 'Next Step' Watch: Day 89. "No More Reading Tea Leaves" Edition

Good idea. (Vote for candidates who can create a new majority on public ed funding.) Much better than the pointless "Next Steps Watch." No one who understands the lay of the land in this state has ever thought there would be a next step coming from Ducey, as commenters on this inane series of blog pieces have repeatedly remarked.

At some point, you might want to acknowledge that perpetually begging for more gas for the car when you refuse to advocate for plugging the leaks in the pipeline getting gas from the tank to the engine isn't confidence-inspiring. (Translation: start advocating that the TUSD Board demand transparency, promise fulfillment, honesty and student-focused applications of funds from their CEO. Then you can once again beg for more money for them, as you did in the run-up to the Prop 123 election. (No, we haven't forgotten your role in that....)

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Posted by The holes in your credibility are showing again. on 08/16/2016 at 4:19 PM

Re: “Ducey 'Next Step' Watch: Day 89. "No More Reading Tea Leaves" Edition

This reads like Ducey won't talk to you so you kind of do a Jimmy Stewart routine with Ducey being your Harvey...the 8 foot rabbit.

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Posted by Admin has the money on 08/16/2016 at 4:05 PM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

You mean like dreamers getting citizenship? And then they will vote for her. That's exactly what Hillary is doing. SELLING ACCESS. It's what she does.
Democrats can't win ideas based on ideas with results.

But you can work yourself out of poverty and poor schools. Don't let them addict you to the drug of promise. Hope and change was never meant for Americans.

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Posted by Rat T on 08/16/2016 at 1:47 PM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

I don't blame teachers. No, I blame Democrat administrations that are dedicated to keeping people in poverty so they can promise freebies in exchange for votes.

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Posted by Once a teacher on 08/16/2016 at 12:41 PM

Re: “NAACP Calls For a Moratorium on Charter Schools

Thanks Once. I gleaned this from your link:

In other words, minority kids from the same neighborhood, going to school in classes across the hall from each other, or on different floors, are scoring far above average and far below average on the same tests.

If black success was considered half as newsworthy as black failures, such facts would be headline news -- and people who have the real interests of black and other minority students at heart would be asking, "Wow! How can we get more kids into these charter schools?"

"The truth shall set you free!"

This problem begs for vouchers for charters, private, and parochial. Give them the same funding as public schools and let's see where the parents take their children. The longer I listen to this problem the more I think it is the public process that has rotted from the head.

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Posted by Dave W on 08/16/2016 at 11:59 AM

Re: “About That "Shadow Faction of Charter School Operators" Diane Douglas Talked About

I worked for FlipSwitch (formerly American Virtual Academy), which is the curriculum development company Creamer owns, and which supplies Primavera with all of its curriculum. Let's just say things are not entirely on the up-and-up here: they hire people who wouldn't be qualified to teach to write their curriculum (i.e.: physical trainers writing junior high school English curriculum). They hire content quality review and standards alignment people to work internally, then ignore them when they raise red flags about VERY serious issues (i.e. failure to align to State/Common Core standards, blatantly plagiarized content). The idea that this place sucks money out of the public schools to provide an education that is INFERIOR to state and national education standards disgusted me. Damian Creamer pretends to be in it for the students, but he's just lining his own pockets. It's truly shameful.

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Posted by Former Employee on 08/16/2016 at 11:56 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

The testing regimes and the "excellent school" lists serve many purposes. For the middle-class parents of children in "good" schools, it gives satisfaction. For those who want to punish teachers and attack tenure and public schools in general, it gives ammunition. "Failing" schools have one and only one thing in common: poverty. Children who started out behind, stay behind, keep falling behind, and then we blame the teachers for not solving systemic societal problems because those six-year-olds without a computer at home or many books or who have parents who work too much to help with homework generally get shoved along to the next grade at minimal proficiency at best. Sure, some have well-pulled bootstraps and succeed, but statistics show most don't. And for this, we blame the teachers. Put the staff of UHS at Pueblo for a year and see if they forget how to teach. Put a bunch of teaching rookies in UHS and they'll probably be on a tenure track by their second year. Why? Because testing will show that different students start with different abilities.

If we're going to use scientific methods based on testing, and have it affect the careers of teachers, we need to improve the science. A teacher who says a kid is failing isn't a bad teacher if that kid is failing. A teacher who says a kid is doing great might be if that kid can't pass a test. But we also need to test these kids before they even see those teachers if we're to really know, aren't we? The way things are done, all we know is that poor schools perform poorly. I could have saved everyone millions if not billions of dollars and pointed that one out decades ago.

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Posted by mr. meade on 08/16/2016 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

Rather than looking for solutions, it's much easier to limit discussion to "just asking for more money."

But we all now see that it has produced even worse results.

"U.S. school spending up 375 percent over 30 years but test score remain flat."

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2015/mar/02/dave-brat/brat-us-school-spending-375-percent-over-30-years-/

Read the conclusion at the end.

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Posted by Debbi L on 08/16/2016 at 9:32 AM

Re: “NAACP Calls For a Moratorium on Charter Schools

Here's a bit of truth, Mr. Safier. If you can take it.

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/08/16/does-black-success-matter-n2205360?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

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Posted by Once a Teacher on 08/16/2016 at 9:27 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

Consider this:
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/08/16/does-black-success-matter-n2205360?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

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Posted by Once a teacher on 08/16/2016 at 9:15 AM

Re: “Border Love

Frank Stagg, I'm sorry you lost a friend to a drunk driver. What about all the Americans who are dead because of Timothy McVeigh, Jared Loughner, Sandy Hook, Columbine, et al? Do you propose we get rid of all white males?

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Posted by theresa.tucson on 08/16/2016 at 9:00 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

In 2014, Newsweek stopped ranking high schools that serve students below grade 7 -- like every BASIS.ed school.

THAT'S why BASIS.ed schools are no longer ranked by Newsweek.

The Newsweek methodology is easy to find on their rankings site.

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Posted by Blue Zona on 08/16/2016 at 8:33 AM

Re: “The Skinny

Someone reading your emails would appear to be a compliment these days ,no matter how they do it!

Posted by Kommon Cents on 08/16/2016 at 8:20 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

If only these teachers did have a sound knowledge of the 3 R's. Much more focused on indoctrinating our kids with "progressive" ideology.

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Posted by Once a teacher on 08/16/2016 at 8:19 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

A kid with some food in their tummy and a teacher with sound knowlage of the three R's is set for success... anything less is a waste of time... those old school one roomers that had to walk up hill both ways turned out ok... with only chalk and small boards! It's not how much money you have ... it's what and how you have been teaching!

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Posted by Kommon Cents on 08/16/2016 at 7:59 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

Look at number 3, Stuyvesant High School with a 47.3% poverty rate. I guess Stuyvesant is the exception that proves the rule

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Posted by Cactus Barb on 08/16/2016 at 7:22 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

The war on poverty has been lost. Much like all the other wars our politicians have waged, they somehow manage to lose them. I agree with the shackled analogy for many of these folks are frozen waiting for something to "be delivered" to them. Forget waiting for it, better yourselves and move forward. You have tolerated a failing educational system and look what you have gotten.

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Posted by Larry McNeil on 08/16/2016 at 5:23 AM

Re: “Want To Be a Top High School? Better Not Have Too Many Low Income Students.

Paul, if you are specifically referring to the poor economically disadvantaged children in TUSD as american citizens, you would only be half correct.

The other half are illegals, exploited by the liberal public education system to line their pockets and have a permanent second class of citizens to clean their toilets and keep them in power.

And you are correct, Safier will never have the courage to address it. His entire career has been living off the backs of taxayers and ruining our public education system.

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Posted by What, Again on 08/16/2016 at 5:18 AM

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