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Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

Hey Nintzel, Could I interest you in a valium? Or maybe you should just smoke a bowl and calm down.
Maybe it's time to attend another "civility in discourse" meeting. Have you been playing hooky Jim?
That Ally Miller election result along with the latest Prez polling seems to really have your nerves on edge.
So after writing five times to the commentary section you have suddenly discovered that you are
wasting your valuable time? ..........Priceless and pompous at the same time/ Yep, you need to save your strength for the masses who tune into watch you on AZ Public Tele.
Love the way you pulled a TD and went anecdotal with charming stories of childcare.
Tom would always go long winded about his fabulous teacher wife and honor student kids whenever any one dared to question public education results. Nice deflection tactic, but totally off topic.
I don't doubt that your mom was nearly a saint and that you " hit the lotto" so to speak with your choice of teachers/ caregivers. None of whom I insulted by hassling you about the Trump child care entitlement proposal. The "BS media" and "phony" were taken from your last sentence.
" Indoctrination" and "institutionalized" are pointed at the heavy overreach of Government departments and you damn well knew that I wasn't criticizing individual workers. Think IRS, Justice Dept., Dept. of Education, and the EPA Jim. Many of your favorites I'm sure.

My point is that the Trump entitlement is still an entitlement. You should be ecstatic. The debate has been framed just the way you want it, much to the chagrin of many conservatives. Oh my, a tax credit
instead of a deduction, unacceptable. More earned income tax credit shenanigans, nothing new.
It seems that new jobs should be the first step when considering the numbers of men out of work and not looking for work. Don't have to worry about the kiddies until you have to leave the house.
As for "ideological one track", don't throw any stones Jim. I've watched the way you do the " party hack" thing on your TV show. You are kind of a George Stephanopolus "wanna be" in our Old Pueblo.
By the way, your fake righteous indignation isn't fooling anyone either. Seems to be more of an anger management issue with you. How long has your party been running education?
I am taking being called " deplorable" by a Hillary supporter as a badge of honor. Playing the race card
on Rat T was right out of the Dem playbook too. Have a wonderful weekend.

Mr. AZ/DC You really are a waste of time. Bringing back "Teabaggers" again eh?
Talk about no originality. People who disagree with you should shut up and go away I take it.
Why don't you find yourself a little "safe zone" with the other "snow flakes" and cover your little ears.
Maybe you can send Nintz a private love letter via snail mail next time. It would be a lot less humiliating than going down on him ( metaphorically speaking of course) in plain public view.
And a blessed day to you also.

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Posted by The Vince of darkness on 09/16/2016 at 5:40 PM

Re: “Tucson Is A Vacuum—And I'm Ok With That

There are two types of people in this world: Tucsonans....and everyone else. If you understand what Keep Tucson Shitty means, you will fall in love with the Old Pueblo. If you're a miserable asshole who bitches about streetcars, potholes, spanish speakers, and the heat. you will hate this place. Oh yeah...we have the best Mexican food in the world.

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Posted by austincounts on 09/16/2016 at 4:59 PM

Re: “Tucson Is A Vacuum—And I'm Ok With That

There are lots of people from here. That's the main problem I have with the attitudes of all those people from frozen-over states. They think Tucson and it's people didn't exist until they got here.

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Posted by Lupe Rodarte on 09/16/2016 at 4:23 PM

Re: “Tucson Is A Vacuum—And I'm Ok With That

Thank you Adiba we are glad to have you back. As for the grumpy old men on the thread - you are fooling nobody we get it, your life stinks.

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Posted by Happy chick on 09/16/2016 at 3:47 PM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

Oh noes! Not ... THE RULES! I'm in big trouble now.

I did break my own rule today: Do not feed the trolls. Always a mistake.

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Posted by Nintz on 09/16/2016 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

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Posted by If you won't enforce your own rules.... on 09/16/2016 at 2:51 PM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

I don't recall calling you racist. I just observed that you were critical of teachers having children singing about a black president but were not critical of students singing about a white one. And that you have an ongoing tendency to be critical of people whose skin is darker than yours. It's almost like you're accusing me of using some kind of dog-whistle code talk.

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Posted by Nintz on 09/16/2016 at 2:50 PM

Re: “Tucson Is A Vacuum—And I'm Ok With That

Last year ran into newly relocated from San Diego.

Knew her by sight back there in retail industry.

She had worked with a neighbor, too. So that helped as reference.

First things we discussed was the cheapness of housing,

Second was all the poverty and misery and that perspective was from a mid-town point of view.

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Posted by hank on 09/16/2016 at 2:29 PM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

Wow Nintz what an asinine assumption. Because I want our immigration laws enforced you find it necessary to call me a racist. That is so typical of how the left has eliminated dialogue with name calling and "deplorable" type comments. The media is assisting the politicians.

If the ideology produced definitive results, you wouldn't be so defensive. I understand.

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Posted by Rat T on 09/16/2016 at 2:22 PM

Re: “Tucson Is A Vacuum—And I'm Ok With That

More like a black hole.

With a year of recent experience, agree with the negatives.

So funny, Raytheon was selling Tucson because the closeness to San Diego. Travel time turned into liars poker, those who couldn't wait to get away, gave the fastest time.

Wonder if that was in Caterpillar's pitch, too.

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Posted by hank on 09/16/2016 at 2:10 PM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

Hebra Dolt:

My, aren't you original. It wouldn't shock me if you, Ratt and Vinnie all shared the same brain cell. You could all be the same person, seeing as none of you have the oysters to actually post your nonsense under an account name.

I'll never understand the mentality of people who do nothing but come to this site and insult the "evil liberals" and their "diabolical plans" to bring education and employment to a a fairer level. Why don't you and your ilk stick to commenting on your teabagger websites? That way you can pat each other on the back without all the "libtards" blocking your misguided love against what is actually correct.

I understand that what you just read is a lot to take in. Don't strain too hard to figure it out; you have to save some of that low brain power so that your lungs have something which tells them to breathe.

Sincerely, DC

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 09/16/2016 at 2:10 PM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

Sounds like the liberals are getting restless.

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Posted by Debra Holt on 09/16/2016 at 1:34 PM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

Guess what, Rat? School kids were singing the praises of presidents before the black one came along. It's just that nobody considered a big ol' scandal.…

Honestly, I don't think it's all that great an idea but it's also not widespread and it wasn't ordered by either president so I'm not too worked up about it. It's certainly not the typical curriculum of the preschool programs I'm talking about (as in both cases, it wasn't preschool in any event) so it's irrelevant to the conversation. It's odd that folks on the right never bring up the Bush example, though.

Also, plenty of studies have shown benefits of Head Start. Some have suggested that the program hasn't had much longterm impact. Sometimes you have bad outcomes in the best of circumstances and sometimes you have great outcomes in the worst of circumstances. But the fundamental fact remains: If you want single moms to work, you have to ensure they have safe and reliable childcare. I don't really understand how you can dispute that very basic reality.

Personally, I'm not really eager to go back to the days when kids went hungry in this country as I'm of the opinion that being starving makes it difficult to do well in school but your mileage may vary. Judging from your history of comments, you don't appear to be a particularly compassionate person, especially if the kids in question have skin darker than yours and don't have the proper paperwork. Thanks for being such a fan of our site, though! It's great that you're one of the many out there who are can't go more than a few hours a day without hearing what we have to say. I'm not terribly interested in debating with you because I have a life, so this will prolly be my last word on the subject. I'm quite certain I won't be changing your mind on anything and nothing you've posted in your long history of being a fan of our work has ever changed mine, so it's basically a waste of my valuable time.

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Posted by Nintz on 09/16/2016 at 1:19 PM

Re: “The Skinny

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Posted by retrorv on 09/16/2016 at 12:54 PM

Re: “Song of the Day: 'Tucson Kills'

Thank you, Starcommand, for your inspired words. It's clear that you are not only a music lover, but that you have a true appreciation for art in general. You also seem to have a great handle on how to fix Tucson, because it so desperately needs fixing. Perhaps some day all the people as enlightened as yourself will get together and make Tucson the great city that you envision. Until then, please continue commenting - without your opinion, we would be lost.

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Posted by ConfusedStarSeekingCommander on 09/16/2016 at 12:39 PM

Re: “Teacher Shortages: Things Are Bad All Over (Only More So In Arizona)

Nope, "Francis", it is not ALL on them. Some of it is on the people managing TUSD. The Arizona Daily Star drew a nice contrast between TUSD and Flowing Wells in its article on the AZ teacher shortage. Flowing Wells, like TUSD, is a district serving a relatively low SES population and dealing with the same AZ funding insufficiencies (except that, unlike TUSD, Flowing Wells does not get more than $60 million extra in desegregation funds to apply each school year). Yet this far into the school year, according to the Star article, Flowing Wells only had 1 teacher vacancy. The last report I heard on TUSD indicated that they were more than 100 short of the certified teachers they need to properly staff their classrooms. (TUSD is larger than Flowing Wells, but not 100x as large.)

Why the disparity? Flowing Wells has a well-earned good reputation in the teaching community. TUSD is known as a nightmare of mismanagement and inadequate support to those on the front lines educating kids.

But there was TUSD Sup HT Sanchez: quoted in the Star article predictably saying we should blame our AZ teacher shortage on our legislature. Perhaps he should transfer his attention to other local districts serving similar populations and ask himself why they are doing a much better job attracting and retaining qualified teachers than the district under his management is doing. But that would be an honest, competent attempt to solve a real problem in his schools. No doubt it is more than can be expected of someone taking home close to $500K of the taxpayers' money in his ridiculously inflated )and apparently self-designed) compensation package this year.

(And by the way, I don't think the original Francis Perkins of the FDR administration would agree with your reductive and inaccurate interpretation of what's going on in Southern Arizona education, Francis. Nor would she agree with David Safier's.)

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Posted by Once again: problems are state-level and LOCAL on 09/16/2016 at 12:30 PM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

Sorry Nintz but you missed the mark. Truth is the government promised us just what you hoped for for the last 50 years. It was called Head Start. It began under LBJ and his "Great Society" campaign. His vision was that by spending money on low income families, and their children they would experience greater successes in life and benefit society on the whole.

Obama's budget in 2016 approved $10.1B for this program. But there is no possible way to track results unless you base it on emotional expectations. Maybe a better way to measure that result would be to look at welfare, food stamps and SNAP programs.But they are growing exponentially. Spending has increased on every one of those programs and results are disappointing.

Is it possible that AZ lawmakers do not want to throw more money into failed programs that have devoured billions of federal tax dollars?

Rather than dismiss your opinion as being based solely on personal beliefs, I read and understand your position. But there seems to be a move afoot to dismiss anybody that holds a differing opinion as a kook. But I think even you would admit the public schools stepped over the line of indoctrination when they di this:

And what else could you call it, other than indoctrination?

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Posted by Rat T on 09/16/2016 at 12:25 PM

Re: “Teacher Shortages: Things Are Bad All Over (Only More So In Arizona)

Let see. The republican legislature has been in the majority in this State for over 30 years. Everything that the public school system is or isn't is on them. The fact of soaring public university tuition is on them. They fact they are funding a parallel privately operated charter system, many of them for profit, is on them. They fact that they are giving away public revenues to support completely private, religious schools, is on them. The fact that the public school buildings and buses are crumbling is on them (another lost lawsuit they continue to ignore). So unless there are tons of liberals in the repulican majority, it's all on them.

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Posted by Francis Perkins on 09/16/2016 at 11:57 AM

Re: “Trump's Childcare Plan Is As Phony as the Rest of His Proposals

Vince, please. Your entire response to me was personal--"you come across as Mr. Bullshit Media"--so don't go whining when you get it back, you big crybaby. You're right: I do take this issue personally. My mom spent most of the last four decades of her life taking care of preschool kids. That meant getting up five days a week and spending a full day chasing after more than two dozen kids. She didn't have to, but she chose to keep working well into her 80s because she wanted to make the lives of those kids better, not because she wanted to "indoctrinate" them in anything, unless you consider teaching reading, going on field trips and making pinch pots to be some weird form of indoctrination.

And here's the deal: My mom is not alone in trying to help these kids have happy childhoods. The teachers who take care of my kid during the day couldn't be a better bunch. They're not a crew of Cold War leftovers who are trying to teach kids about the glories of the Motherland. They work way harder than I do and they deserve respect, not your cheap insults. And the results with my kid have been spectacular. She is whip-smart, curious, happy and has the sweetest temperament imaginable. I'm lucky, I can afford do send her to one of the best early childhood education schools in town. Every kid should have the opportunities she has.

And that's not even getting started on the other point I made about how if you want single moms to work and build a better life so they're not dependent on government for the rest of their lives, you have to make sure they have safe, reliable childcare. That's a simple idea and one that Republicans embraced when welfare reform passed in the 1990s. Sadly, at least in AZ, Republicans have turned out to be deadbeat dads, at least when it comes to holding up their end of the bargain there.

It's not about "institutionalization" or whatever dumb ideological one-track notion you have in your head. It's about education and making sure we can compete with the rest of the world in the 21st century. And that starts with taking care of kids to build them up rather than leave them victims of neglect and abuse. If that point eludes you, you're more deplorable than I ever imagined.

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Posted by Nintz on 09/16/2016 at 11:13 AM

Re: “Tucson Is A Vacuum—And I'm Ok With That

A great place to be "from" (and never come back) if you can make enough money to get out of here. For others we see in certain parts of town that's hopelessly impossible so their only escape is numbing themselves with drugs and alcohol.

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Posted by Drew on 09/16/2016 at 11:10 AM

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