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Re: “Does This Mean We Can Call It McSallyCare Now?

McSally is in peril of losing the 2018 election if she continues to link herself with President Trump. That "shout-out" did her NO favors.

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Posted by Indivisible on 03/22/2017 at 4:50 PM

Re: “Does This Mean We Can Call It McSallyCare Now?

Economic genocide anyone?

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Posted by Ginfinity on 03/22/2017 at 3:59 PM

Re: “On the Theory and Practice of Bullshitting

Yeah, but she lost the election last November. We are all better off.

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Posted by Tania Pezzole on 03/22/2017 at 3:58 PM

Re: “Arizona ACA Enrollment Down 3.3 Percent. Cost For People With Subsidies Down 13.3 Percent.

I had a minute to think through the proposition of the government paying unlimited amounts of money to keep us alive. On the other hand every one that were to die prematurely would save Social Security a ton of money. I guess that explains that term "death squads." They are better of if we die.

I personally want to go back to a doctor that I choose that has a profit motive that helps keep me alive.

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Posted by Dave W on 03/22/2017 at 3:56 PM

Re: “On the Theory and Practice of Bullshitting

I'm going out on a limb here but when a politician runs on a platform of reining in the excesses of Wall Street while taking in tens of millions in campaign contributions and speaking fees from Goldman Sachs and assorted hedge fund managers, Bullshitting has been raised to an art form. But I digress....

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 03/22/2017 at 3:49 PM

Re: “Arizona ACA Enrollment Down 3.3 Percent. Cost For People With Subsidies Down 13.3 Percent.

Much to my chagrin but even the government (us) can't afford $85,000 procedures for very many for very long. Maybe they could open their own insurance company. Why not, our Social Security contributions are in a lock box. (LOL)

Tax payer trust is the biggest stumbling block for a good reason.

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Posted by Dave W on 03/22/2017 at 3:43 PM

Re: “On the Theory and Practice of Bullshitting

Amen sister!

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Posted by Susan Henshaw on 03/22/2017 at 3:26 PM

Re: “Does This Mean We Can Call It McSallyCare Now?

She's despicable. Doesn't care at all about anything but herself.

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Posted by Rsklsi on 03/22/2017 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Does This Mean We Can Call It McSallyCare Now?

Still waiting for her to tell us who her constituents are...

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Posted by Cascabel on 03/22/2017 at 3:11 PM

Re: “On the Theory and Practice of Bullshitting

This article is bullshit.

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Posted by polly on 03/22/2017 at 2:46 PM

Re: “Arizona ACA Enrollment Down 3.3 Percent. Cost For People With Subsidies Down 13.3 Percent.

What, Again,

I often wonder about the derivation of your name. What Again? Or is it Again What? Is that British? Scottish? Welsh? OK I'm kidding, I know lots of people who are afraid to sign their names to posts.

Like I said, we (my family and friends) are glad I made it and wish every one had access to this sort of coverage allowing them to live full lives without the fear of impending financial doom or bankruptcy. The only way to get there is to join the rest of the free word (not a pun) and provide a single payer healthcare system. Or else we could just let folks who can't afford insurance drop dead.

But with a majority of US households unable to weather a $5,000 emergency much less one approaching $100 grand I'd say the procedure is certainly worth the money and hope anyone going through this sort of crisis is provided the care needed to save his/her life.

Even you, What, Again... or Again What.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 03/22/2017 at 2:41 PM

Re: “Does This Mean We Can Call It McSallyCare Now?

"You have to wonder why..." I suppose the obvious answer is she was offered a political plum in return. I just hope, for her sake, it was more than a letter from Paul Ryan suitable for framing. What's the going rate for betraying the public trust?

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Posted by Concerned Citizen on 03/22/2017 at 2:08 PM

Re: “Does This Mean We Can Call It McSallyCare Now?

She didn't have to walk the plank on this. Other GOP Reps have been willing to stand up to Trump and Ryan to protect their constituents. Here's Rep. LoBiondi of NJ: "Simply put, this bill does not meet the standards of what was promised; it is not as good as or better than what we currently have. Accordingly, I will vote no on this healthcare plan."

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Posted by Teresa Zimmerman on 03/22/2017 at 2:05 PM

Re: “Does This Mean We Can Call It McSallyCare Now?

She and about a hundred other GOP reps demanded these changes to keep their constituents quiet.

#rememberitin2018

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Posted by SonoranWinds on 03/22/2017 at 1:57 PM

Re: “Local Danish Bakery Serves Up Savory Desserts

Address? Hours?

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Posted by StrawHousePig on 03/22/2017 at 1:42 PM

Re: “Arizona ACA Enrollment Down 3.3 Percent. Cost For People With Subsidies Down 13.3 Percent.

Rick,

Wasn't your life saving procedure worth the 85k? If it's not worth you paying it sure isn't worth it to me.

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Posted by What, Again on 03/22/2017 at 12:03 PM

Re: “Arizona ACA Enrollment Down 3.3 Percent. Cost For People With Subsidies Down 13.3 Percent.

Rick your story is absolutely amazing. Congratulations my friend.

I have to wonder though, when Part B medicare is $109 per month, how many $85,000 procedures they can fund. Do you fully understand and trust the US Government's accounting procedures and ability to deficit spend?

They can't trim a tree branch using a cost effective method. Need I mention simple road repairs? I see bigger problems coming, because of lack of discipline and honesty.

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Posted by Larry McNeil on 03/22/2017 at 11:11 AM

Re: “Arizona ACA Enrollment Down 3.3 Percent. Cost For People With Subsidies Down 13.3 Percent.

Your Average Jane Citizen

Thank you for your illuminating post! ACA was a start that is now fizzling out, especially for people like you and your husband. Republicare will more than likely make matters even worse for hardworking families leaving a single payer option the only obvious solution for those who are being gutted by healthcare costs. A personal note: I am pushing 70 and on Medicare. In July I suffered a life threatening heart attack and survived due to some fantastic care at Banner UMC. The total bill was pushing $85K and we wound up with out of pocket costs of less than $2,500. We wish every one had access to this sort of coverage allowing them to live full lives without the fear of impending financial doom or bankruptcy. This healthcare scam in the US is sickening - literally.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 03/22/2017 at 10:51 AM

Re: “Arizona ACA Enrollment Down 3.3 Percent. Cost For People With Subsidies Down 13.3 Percent.

I take huge issue with this statement in the article:

"While no one wants to pay the full cost of ACA health care, which averages $611 a month, the top 20 percent who make over a hundred grand can manage it. "

It is disingenuous to say what those who make over $100k can manage. You have no idea what our circumstances are, the sacrifices we have made to get to this place.

No, I do not want to pay $1400 a month in insurance premiums, not when I paid $650 last year for better coverage! Also, my husband and I built out business ourselves. It is what supports us. We took out no loans. We started it after my husband had been laid off three times during the recession. Our business is service-based, and our income can vary. It can be feast or famine some months. There have been months when we have had billables out but no income in. But we purposely dave money for these down times so we can ride it out. Why should we be punished for doing so?

All this to say, why should OUR long hours, weekends, no vacations, and time away from our daughter building a life to support ourselves and our family with no government aid be used against us? We choose to work these long hours so we can get ahead. We choose to live in a small house, one that we can actually afford rather than over-extend ourselves and take out more debt. We chose to pay off our student loan debt early rather than be burdened by it well into our forties. We choose to drive fourteen-year-old cars that are worth maybe $1500 rather than upgrade every couple years like a lot of those around us. The cost of our monthly premium could easily cover two new car payments each month! Why should our good work and the way we choose to save money for our retirement and daughter's education be taken from us and used against us?

I am a supporter of universal healthcare. The only way to make it fair and right is for everyone to be taxed equally and have equal access to care.

That said, the system we have now is bananas and for those of us who are self-employed, getting no subsidies, working long hours, and not getting a break, it is not right or fair that my hard work should cover others in this manner. We purposely choose to live a frugal, saving lifestyle. I do not want to be punished for it. Or heck. I guess I could just choose to cut back our hours and work, buy two new cars (which I could afford with the cost of our monthly premium), and take a vacation. I could really use a vacation! Or even a trip to the doctor's office without having to worry if that sonogram my husband needs will even be covered!

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Posted by Your Average Jane Citizen on 03/22/2017 at 10:32 AM

Re: “Arizona ACA Enrollment Down 3.3 Percent. Cost For People With Subsidies Down 13.3 Percent.

Thank you Rick! A rational and intelligent analysis and response. Non-Profit health care is the only way to go. There are ZERO rational arguments against it. We need to wake people up!

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Posted by HumanBean on 03/22/2017 at 8:06 AM

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