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Re: “'Enemy of the People': The Phrase's Ironic and Instructive Literary History

Great article! What an interesting take on this whole bizzare circumstance we find ourselves in.

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Posted by Adam Borowitz on 02/22/2017 at 5:58 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Francine. Follow your own advice. Don't like things, leave.

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Posted by CW13 on 02/22/2017 at 5:39 PM

Re: “Did the TUSD Board Come To Bury Sanchez Or To Praise Him? (Answer: C, None Of the Above)

Sylvia Campoy's name seemed to come up a couple of times last night as the Board bickered about who would and would not get to speak in the Call to the Audience and how long the Call would last. Ultimately, they closed the call without allowing Sylvia, the Latino Plaintiff's representative in the desegregation case, to speak.

Why was that? Personally, I would much rather hear someone who tracks social justice issues and desegregation plan implementation in TUSD speak than I would like to hear the head of the Tucson Chamber of Commerce speak. Yet Adelita Grijalva was very eager to have the head of the Tucson Chamber of Commerce -- a man who is not an expert in the management of public school districts, to my knowledge -- effusively praise Sanchez, while she had no interest in hearing Ms. Campoy's perspective.

Why do you suppose that was, David? Whose interests do your friends actually represent? The interests of the disadvantaged, or someone else's interests?

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Posted by Why wasn't Sylvia allowed to speak? I wonder... on 02/22/2017 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Cannabis and cancer

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Posted by joycy on 02/22/2017 at 4:26 PM

Re: “Did the TUSD Board Come To Bury Sanchez Or To Praise Him? (Answer: C, None Of the Above)

Rules for Radicals!

"After losing his 1972 bid for a seat on the Tucson Unified School Board, Grijalva studied the activism of Saul Alinsky and came to understand that his own unfiltered militancy was likely alienating some members of his local community. "

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1316

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Posted by What, Again on 02/22/2017 at 3:38 PM

Re: “Arizona Environmental and Wildlife Officials Continue to Push for an Update on the Recovery Plan for Endangered Mexican Gray Wolves

Did Michael Robinson describe Mexican grey wolves as beautiful creatures? These 'beautiful creatures' don't have such 'beautiful' traits in the way they consume their prey. I understand they're not always very hungry when they take down an animal for consumption; that they like to eat a little now and maybe come back and eat a little later. How sadistic is that? Oh yeah, we're talking about wolves here. Liberal urbanites~they can be so boring.

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Posted by Bethel Bennett on 02/22/2017 at 3:20 PM

Re: “'Enemy of the People': The Phrase's Ironic and Instructive Literary History

Francine. If things are so bad I suggest you move elsewhere.

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Posted by CW13 on 02/22/2017 at 3:14 PM

Re: “Did the TUSD Board Come To Bury Sanchez Or To Praise Him? (Answer: C, None Of the Above)

" a room filled with a mixture of community members, staff members who were there as part of their job, reporters and curious onlookers,"

Well for goodness sakes, who was missing?

Parents of school children affected.

But they now can identify the supporters.

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Posted by TUSD should be ashamed on 02/22/2017 at 2:18 PM

Re: “Did the TUSD Board Come To Bury Sanchez Or To Praise Him? (Answer: C, None Of the Above)

Gee, David, you really are a little slow on the uptake. This issue of why support for Grijalva and her hand-picked administrative servant is so loud and public and why opposition takes place anonymously has been addressed many, many times in this comment stream. Here's one comment among many that explains it:

"People who support those currently in power in the district, like Andrea Rickard, have no reason not to post under their own names, and may in fact be earning brownie points with leadership for doing so. This is power politics 101 (actually, remedial power politics -- any grade schooler who chooses not to "dis" his teacher to her face gets it). So why is this hard for you to understand?"

Several people I know received requests from a few different directions to speak in the Call and write to the Board. Some received these requests to speak in support of Sanchez. Some received requests to speak in opposition to Sanchez. I've talked to representatives of both sides, so let me brief you on how the thought process goes:

Case A: I've received a request to speak in support of Sanchez. Perhaps I don't like him, but at this point I don't know whether or not he will continue to occupy the powerful position he occupies. Do I go to speak in support of him, no matter how ambivalent my feelings about his leadership may be? If I have a child enrolled in these schools and / or if I represent people who hope to continue getting contracts with the district and / or if I am an employee or am related to an employee, you bet I go. Not to obey the summons would be dangerous to my interests.

Case B: I've received a request to speak in support of firing Sanchez. Perhaps I am passionately in support of giving him his marching orders and securing more competent leadership for this troubled district, but at this point I don't know whether or not he will continue to occupy the powerful position he occupies. Do I go to speak in support of firing him? Though you do seem pretty dim sometimes, David, I think you can probably see where this is going: If I have a child enrolled in these schools and / or if I represent people who hope to continue getting contracts...etc. Do I go to speak in support of firing him? No way. To agree to do so is potentially dangerous to my interests or the interests of my loved ones. Multiply the potential dangers of blowback within TUSD to include potential blowback within various other city agencies where members of the same network hold office: there are contractors who've said they fear running into difficulties getting permits for work they need to do if they publicly oppose some of TUSD's entrenched politicians.

Do you get it now?

FYI, what they decided in the meeting was to proceed with external counsel. When Stegeman responded in the comment stream on the Star's article on the same Board meeting you are writing about here, he wrote, "You are right, but this is a personnel process. Personnel processes are generally not public processes. Things usually become clearer at the end."

Perhaps I'm reading the tea leaves wrong, David, but I believe this all means they are in the process of trying to fire Sanchez with cause. If that happens, after it happens, you may see a very different Call to the Audience than you saw last night. And then again you may not. Why would anyone take the trouble to attend and speak in one of those egregious meetings when what they believed was best for the district has already been accomplished? Perhaps it would be better to just send Mark Stegeman a personal thank you note, if he succeeds in doing what he seems to be trying to do: something that is without doubt the best possible thing to do to help this troubled district.

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Posted by For David: Remedial Power Politics on 02/22/2017 at 2:15 PM

Re: “Did the TUSD Board Come To Bury Sanchez Or To Praise Him? (Answer: C, None Of the Above)

Bullying is very effective especially when the bully signs the paychecks and his sponsor(s) is the most powerful politician in Pima County.

Grijalva was able to instigate a boycott against his own state, his own people. Just think what he could have inflicted on TUSD employees that stand against him and his daughter.

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Posted by What, Again on 02/22/2017 at 2:13 PM

Re: “'Enemy of the People': The Phrase's Ironic and Instructive Literary History

David,

Here is the problem with your metaphor/analogy. You are the conveyor of toxic baths. The district school system with the classical classroom is a dead end for children of color and poverty. It just doesn't work for them.

What are you going to do for penance a decade from now when they discover that these students are not only capable of moving three times as fast academically but systems can be organized to do it. When you discover that it was you who was letting the sharks eat the kids. That it was you who was exposing the kids to Escherichia coli.

You are on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of ethics, the wrong side of morality. The wrong side of your analogy.

Give it up.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 02/22/2017 at 11:08 AM

Re: “'Enemy of the People': The Phrase's Ironic and Instructive Literary History

Here is your problem: you are the conveyor of toxic baths. The district school with the classical classroom is a dead end for students from poverty and students of color. Yet, you insist that everything is ok and keep writing testaments about the greatness of district education.

David, what are you going to do for penance when, a decade from now, they discover that the average student of color and poverty can move 300% faster academically than the current district school is moving them? When you discover that it was you who let the sharks eat the kids? When it was you who exposed them to escherichia coli?

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 02/22/2017 at 11:01 AM

Re: “'Enemy of the People': The Phrase's Ironic and Instructive Literary History

Mr. Trump, I my view, is NOT fit to service in the Office of President of the United States. He is Mentally Unstable and has undermined the very nature of our Constitutional Democracy with Three Co-Equal Branches of Government, as well as our Independent and Free Press. His statements regarding His Russian Mentor and "Friendship" with the Thug Putin threatens the National Security of our Country.

It remains to be determined the nature of the contacts He and his Minions have had with Russia before, during, and after the Presidential Election. His statements during the Election encouraging Russia to hack Servers of the DNC and Mrs. Clinton are sufficient, in my view, in making him Complicit in undermining the validity of this Election and are sufficient Grounds for His Impeachment. This, of course, is a decision that Congress will make when these Congressional Investigations are Complete.

All Partisanship Must be put aside in the evaluation of the evidence and in determining if Donald Trump should be removed for Office.

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 02/22/2017 at 8:34 AM

Re: “'Enemy of the People': The Phrase's Ironic and Instructive Literary History

The history of the leftists that now control the main stream media and the democrat party, most especially in Tucson;

Mass killings under Communist regimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

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Posted by What, Again on 02/21/2017 at 5:55 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

If you don't like either Steller nor Safier's writing, don't read them or start your own newspaper. It's still a semi free country, although with Trump you never know if Putin's methods of suppressing dissent will be used. Charging critical newspapers with corruption, or sodomy, fraud or insulting the King, or having no license, are all methods autocrats including Putin have used.

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 02/21/2017 at 5:45 PM

Re: “Death in the Arizona Borderlands

My solution is send all the Corrupt Republicans to Mexico, then build the wall.

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Posted by Pam Fulgham on 02/21/2017 at 4:56 PM

Re: “Tucson's 'Resist Trump' Participants Make a Statement

Resist Irrationality and Hypocrisy: I am a Republican and I have joined the Resistance. It is not a Democrat issue, it is a Democracy issue. This Trump is flaming nuts, everyone hates him in this Country and all over the world.

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Posted by Pam Fulgham on 02/21/2017 at 4:49 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Just checked the Star's website and here's Steller's Feb. 16 column (implies opinion):

"To be clear, it isnt that the board shouldnt consider firing the superintendent I tend to favor replacing him but Sedgwicks Monday demand that it be put on the agenda Tuesday was a precipitous move that reminded me of the Highwire incident."

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Posted by SonoranWinds on 02/21/2017 at 3:34 PM

Re: “Rep. Martha McSally, Former Rep. Ron Barber, and Courage

I VOTED FOR MCSALLY, AND ATTENDED HER CONFERENCE CALL. IT WAS A TALKING POINT CAMPAIGN SPEECH. IT WAS RIDICULOUS, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY DON'T THEY USE DRONES, SINCE YOU CAN GET A LADDER TO CLIMB OVER THE WALL, AND CAN TUNNEL UNDER. IT SOUNDS KIND OF RIDICULOUS TO ME TO BUILD THIS WALL. I WANTED TO ASK, WHY DID SHE DEFUND BOARDER SECURITY FOR THE 2017 YEAR, LEAVING 300 LESS AGENTS. TO TELL THE TRUTH, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO PLAY HER GAME. I AM NOT VERY HAPPY SHE HELPED MAKE THE INSIDER TRADING RULE IN THE HOUSE SO SHE CAN DO INSIDER TRADING. SHE IS CORRUPT.

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Posted by Pam Fulgham on 02/21/2017 at 2:05 PM

Re: “Taking Initiative

RAT T. PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH THE WAGES THEY MAKE. YOU HAVE LOST YOUR MIND.

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Posted by Pam Fulgham on 02/21/2017 at 1:50 PM

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