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Re: “Ducey 'Next Step' Watch: Day 55

An article titled “Public Schools? To Kansas Conservatives, They’re ‘Government Schools’” by Julie Bosman, printed in the New York Times July 9, 2016, might be a clue for Ducey’s so-called next step. Using semantics to demonize public schools as government schools the plan to further defund and ultimately eliminate public education in favor of charter schools in Arizona can continue. A long time ago, state and local governments were responsible for creating and maintaining infrastructures such as emergency services, utilities, medical and mental health facilities, and public education. Then the public fell for the politician’s lies that spinning all these services off to the private sector would “save” the tax payers money. So here we are today, paying more in taxes, getting less and paying more for services, and all the while money continues to disappear in a black hole inhabited by dark money special interests.

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Posted by sgsmith on 07/13/2016 at 11:35 PM

Re: “Ducey 'Next Step' Watch: Day 55

I couldn't agree more with the analysis of the commenter above. It saddens me that teachers were brought to such a desperate place that they would be willing to sell out their future chance at any type of prosperity for piddly scraps now. Of course, this was the strategy all along of Ducey-after all he takes his plays from the ALEC handbook. The cowardly capitulation on the part of the AEA and ASBA should give members of those organizations pause. I seriously question their leadership. Additionally, I would ask people to pay close attention to the recommendations of the Classrooms First folks. If you haven't taken a look at their initial suggestions, I strongly suggest you do so. It's not looking good-another shocking surprise. What a shame that all the energy so painstakingly harnessed for public education over the past couple of years was squandered on a shill like Prop 123.

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Posted by 🙄 on 07/13/2016 at 9:52 PM

Re: “Ducey 'Next Step' Watch: Day 55

A good percentage of the population will believe, since 123 passed, that Ducey "did something" for education. They listen to the teachers who say, as the commenter above does, that they are "glad proposition 123 passed" and that as a result they received "long overdue raises," and thereby much of the pressure that had been building to increase funding to public ed -- and to do it in a PROPER way -- is dissipated.

It's only those who should have voted against 123 -- the teachers, their unions, the "education advocacy organizations," etc., who think, naively, -- stupidly, to put the accurate term on their behavior and attitudes -- that their capitulation should have resulted in "next steps." If they had been paying attention to what type of ALEC-influenced strategy 123 was and understood what the proper political response was -- to oppose 123, stating clearly why it was the wrong way to fund public ed and then marshaling all the pressure that was building behind increasing funding in the run-up to the November 2016 elections -- they might have had some chance of getting the right outcome.

As things stand, they've lost a good portion of their potential base: some, as I stated above, think something good has been done for public education and Ducey did it. Others are so disgusted with the establishment Democrats who endorsed the Prop that they're unwilling to get behind people who sold out or "held their noses" and voted for the proposition.

What a mess -- a mess complicated, in Southern Arizona, by the pitiful shenanigans of the crew running TUSD, progressives-in-name-only who seem to be taking several pages out of the Ducey-ALEC play book: inflate administrative salaries and give central administrators fat bonuses while keeping the professionals in the classrooms on poverty-level wages, outsource subs, agree with Graham-Keegan that the right response to the teacher supply crisis is to reduce teacher credentialing requirements, give deseg funding back to taxpayers and brag about "reducing expenses" in a tragically underfunded district, agree that deseg funding can be phased down once the deseg case is resolved (NOT sound deseg policy to anyone who understands deseg), in every possible way cooperate with the corporate over-testing agenda. The policy choices in TUSD for the past three years give the impression that HT Sanchez is a closer ally of Lea Marquez-Peterson, one of Ducey's chief allies in Southern Arizona, than he is of his supposed "boss" Adelita Grijalva, who looks very much like she's being duped by her ill-advised confidence in Sanchez and led to the edge of a "how-could-you-possibly-think-the-admin-behaviors-you-and-your-puppets-are-rubber-stamping-could-possibly-be-perceived-as-progressive?!" political suicide cliff.

But Safier persists with his inane Ducey-watch and pulls every punch when writing (or, more often, choosing not to write) about TUSD. His commentary is a waste of space in a supposedly "progressive" paper and an embarrassment to the party whose "interests" he pretends to promote.

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Posted by Supporting Public Ed Means Supporting Local Reform on 07/13/2016 at 8:38 PM

Re: “Ducey 'Next Step' Watch: Day 55

As an educator in Phoenix, I was glad proposition 123 passed as I was then given a long overdue raise. I am happy that you are keeping the focus on the next step. Voters need to be reminded of what was promised for future funding so that come the next election they may make better choices.

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Posted by Tony Pantera on 07/13/2016 at 6:36 PM

Re: “Ducey 'Next Step' Watch: Day 55

Anyone who thought Ducey was going to do something else for education -- or that he would be "moveable" on this issue through the pressure of interest groups and the public pronouncements of female clergywomen social justice advocates, stay-at-home mom education funding advocates, etc. -- should be sitting in the corner wearing a dunce cap, David, not filling space in a local paper and wasting the public's time with "Next Step Watch: Day 1, Day 5, Day 32, Day 36, Day 55.

Lest we forget:

When HT Sanchez was pushing Prop 123, he promised that the money TUSD received if the Proposition passed would be used to give teachers raises, and helped mobilize teachers, TEA, AEA, his media friends including Safier, etc., ad nauseam to beg the public to vote for the Proposition. Sanchez's actions, however -- giving only 30% of the 123 money, once it was received by TUSD, to teacher raises -- made it abundantly clear, he never had any intention of using the bulk of the money filched from the land trust to significantly raise the salaries of full time, permanent, professional teachers, in a district which is bleeding permanent, professionally qualified teachers at alarming rates and replacing them with impermanent, insufficiently professionally credentialed subs.

On the topic of subs, was any of the 123 money used to restore some of the damage done to their pay scale and benefits after their services were outsourced under the Sanchez administration? No. I suggest you watch the subs commenting in the Call to the Audience at last night's TUSD Board meeting, David. Then sit tight and watch your friends in the Board majority voting to approve a budget which has no improvements to their pay scales and (recently removed) benefits. The video of the meeting is not up yet, but once it is posted you can find it here:

In general I suggest you turn your binoculars -- and your condescension and sarcasm -- on subjects a little closer to home, David. There are several people in Southern Arizona who merit just as much mockery as you dish out to Ducey, but month after month goes by and you never give them what they deserve.

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Posted by Hit some targets closer to home, David. on 07/13/2016 at 3:48 PM
Posted by Larry McNeil on 07/13/2016 at 12:11 PM

Re: “California Looks Into K12 Inc. The Result: a $168.5 Million Settlement (or $2.5 Million, Depending on Who's Counting)

There once was a Troll from Tucson
Commenting in the dark with no clothes on
Like a bird on a wire not seeking to inspire
Just looking for something to poop on

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Posted by sgsmith on 07/13/2016 at 9:08 AM

Re: “California Looks Into K12 Inc. The Result: a $168.5 Million Settlement (or $2.5 Million, Depending on Who's Counting)

No. That sounds like something the NEA or public school hacks would do. What made you ask?

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Posted by Larry McNeil on 07/13/2016 at 5:33 AM

Re: “California Looks Into K12 Inc. The Result: a $168.5 Million Settlement (or $2.5 Million, Depending on Who's Counting)

Do you think K12 Inc. is one of those companies that would hire a social media company that hires individual contractors to monitor online postings and websites to make positive remarks repudiating anything negative posted about the company?

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Posted by sgsmith on 07/13/2016 at 12:38 AM

Re: “California Looks Into K12 Inc. The Result: a $168.5 Million Settlement (or $2.5 Million, Depending on Who's Counting)

I work for K12 as a contractor. I can say I have only seen full commitment and dedication to the real and true value online education offers. In my view K12 as a whole and the folks I worked with do their best to produce a product which enhances choice, success and moves education forward.

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Posted by Dylan on 07/12/2016 at 7:38 PM

Re: “Derby Needs a Home

Pretty girl

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Posted by AZ/DC on 07/12/2016 at 12:19 PM

Re: “Backers of Higher Minimum Wage File Petitions To Ask Voters To Boost Wages

Facts? The Bureau of Labor Statistics for Santa Fe reported June 9,

In March private employers spend $2.44 per hour worked for employee health benefits

At $10 per hour that is more than 20% of earnings going for healthcare (after 3 years of the affordable care act). Another 20% for Federal, State, and SS, medicare withholding. So at $15 an hour you would bring home about $7.50 so that you can rent or buy housing. Then pay property taxes, license fees on cars and city sales tax.

It looks to me like 65-75% of your pay is really not yours. It must satisfy the governments appetite.

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Posted by Tony Silva on 07/12/2016 at 10:32 AM

Re: “Backers of Higher Minimum Wage File Petitions To Ask Voters To Boost Wages

How about a little corporate responsibility? Most CEOs in this country are not worth the money they're making and there are plenty of people on the bottom rung who are not being paid enough. We need to flip that inequality around and make things right.
$12 an hour isn't asking a lot, it's just about equivalent to what minimum wage earners were making towards the end of the 1960s. The big differences are that in the 1960s the ratio of people to jobs were better because most items used in the USA were manufactured in the USA, jobs were more stable, there were more opportunities for advancement and the middle class was a bigger percentage of people than it is now due to FAIRER wages and less wage slavery.
$12 an hour is plenty fair, considering all of those other things that I mentioned which are now a thing of the past.

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 07/12/2016 at 8:20 AM

Re: “Backers of Higher Minimum Wage File Petitions To Ask Voters To Boost Wages

Wow! The usual right wing trailer trash mentality is well represented here! Fake stats, lies, and paranoia gushing per these sad, pathetic souls like the Colorado River before human assisted global warming! Santa Fe and several others cities have adopted increased minimum wage with no ill effects. That's a fact. Colorado is doing so as a state; another fact. But real, verifiable facts never get in the way of a good ole right wing, Fox news flunky, trailer trash rant, but thanks for proving me right, by being so wrong...again! Please continue to be all hat and no cowboy my right wing friends. Always wrong, but always entertaining!

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Posted by JTrue67 on 07/12/2016 at 8:14 AM

Re: “Backers of Higher Minimum Wage File Petitions To Ask Voters To Boost Wages

The limited quantity of quality employees has increased wages for good employees. Poor quality should not be forced to reward the slackers. They need to work on self improvement. Business should not have to "raise them." How about a little personal responsibility?

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Posted by Dan Hyde on 07/11/2016 at 8:23 PM

Re: “Backers of Higher Minimum Wage File Petitions To Ask Voters To Boost Wages

Tony V I understand your point. I agree that many entry level jobs should pay minimum wage, though I do think that should be increased. The problem is the current system doesn't support this. There are many employers who willfully keep a large amount of workers at minimum wage with little to no room for advancement. Even occupations like police officer, teacher and social worker, which provide a high value to our society, have lower wages and limited room for promotion or even pay increases. Ideally we would all work productive valuable jobs where we can earn and do more through hard work and self betterment.

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Posted by stalecloud on 07/11/2016 at 6:09 PM

Re: “Backers of Higher Minimum Wage File Petitions To Ask Voters To Boost Wages

If it was $15, I'd vote against it. I think $12 is more realistic and will vote in favor of it if it is on the ballot.

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Posted by Mr T on 07/11/2016 at 5:48 PM

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Posted by Lucas Pedro on 07/11/2016 at 5:18 PM

Re: “Update: Tucson Man Arrested for Conspiracy to Commit Terrorism

Based on the information provided, this wanna-be terrorist with his clumsy attempts to procure information and material is more akin to some guy walking into a gun shop and asking the person behind the counter, “What kind of gun should I buy to rob banks and shoot people?” Meanwhile, somewhere, in a basement, cave or bunker, there is a terrorist recruiter clinching his fists and screaming toward the sky, “KHAAAANNNN!”

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Posted by sgsmith on 07/11/2016 at 3:27 PM

Re: “Backers of Higher Minimum Wage File Petitions To Ask Voters To Boost Wages

The minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage. Just like Social Security was not meant to provide 100% if your retirement needs financially.

Minimum wage is an entry point. If you are still at minimum wage levels after one year on the job, it's time to do some soul searching. Do I plan to work at this level the rest of my life? Will/should it provide a level of income that an adult can sustain themselves on, long term?

Heck no. Better yourselves and move on. That is the basis of our economy. If minimum wage is all they offer consider moving on.

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Posted by Tony V on 07/11/2016 at 1:10 PM

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