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Re: “"Kiss Me, I'm the Descendant of Irish Immigrants!"

That was sweet! Well put.

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Posted by Debbi L on 03/18/2017 at 2:34 PM

Re: “"Kiss Me, I'm the Descendant of Irish Immigrants!"

" [The Irish] were nobodys ideal of the desirable immigrant. The typical Irish Catholic arrival in New York or Boston was a peasant with little formal education and few material resources. Worse, these people were religious aliens the papist hordes who threatened to swamp Protestant civilization and, in their ignorance and superstition, destroy enlightened democratic American values."

Yes, and God forbid they should be allowed or enabled, through the use of public funds, to educate their children in Catholic schools, where the horrors of "Popery" would be passed on to another generation. Like the children of Native Americans, they needed to be educated in state-sponsored, government controlled schools that could wash the dirt of their parents' religion and culture (a.k.a. "ignorance and superstition") off of them and transform them into "true Americans," i.e. promoters of the secularized form of WASP values transmitted in public schools that pretend to be value-neutral, but that actually convey subtle and not-so-subtle disrespect for religious traditions the Constitution of this country guarantees its citizens the right to exercise.

But anti-voucher, anti-tax-credit policy advocacy is not a form of anti-Catholic, anti-immigrant prejudice, is it, David?

Perhaps you could explain again why not. In preparing your enlightened policy explanation on this topic, consider interviewing a few descendants of Irish immigrants to get their opinions on the pros and cons of various mechanisms for funding Catholic school systems in the U.S. Then again, interviewing them might not interest you: what they believe and value doesn't matter, except when it can be used to support your pre-fab repertoire of Democratic party policy talking points. And grass roots, ground level research or "critical thinking" of any sort doesn't need to play any role in the trotting out and exercising of those tired orthodoxies.

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Posted by Cultural Imperialism, Continued. on 03/18/2017 at 12:26 PM

Re: “"Kiss Me, I'm the Descendant of Irish Immigrants!"

I'm afraid the pencil-necked geek doesn't anything else.

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Posted by CW13 on 03/17/2017 at 6:07 PM

Re: “"Kiss Me, I'm the Descendant of Irish Immigrants!"

"Is there a minute in the day when Safier is not full of hate?"

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Posted by The What, Again pot calling the Safier kettle black. on 03/17/2017 at 6:07 PM

Re: “Sheriff Mark Napier Says His Deputies Won't Be Taking Over the Work of Border Patrol

"The human toll associated with immigration is real and a factor for our department. Every year, we recover approximately 150 bodies in the desert areas of Pima County. "

Have you worked with the open border liberals and explained to them that they are the facilitators of these deaths by encouraging them to come here? Have you looked at your policies and accepted that not enforcing the laws is contributing to these deaths?

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Posted by What, Again on 03/17/2017 at 4:48 PM

Re: “Sheriff Mark Napier Says His Deputies Won't Be Taking Over the Work of Border Patrol

" ...and welcome additional federal resources,..."

Say goodbye to those.

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Posted by What, Again on 03/17/2017 at 4:45 PM

Re: “Streets of This Town: Easy Living.

In Los Angeles that home would be a half million dollars. Here, it may belong to the Mayor.

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Posted by Suzie Q on 03/17/2017 at 2:58 PM

Re: “Sheriff Mark Napier Says His Deputies Won't Be Taking Over the Work of Border Patrol

The drug and crime problem actually keeps other high quality employers from relocating here. The wages do suffer because of it. Secure the border, drop sanctuary city game playing and deport the criminals. You can then buy your own health insurance.

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Posted by Uncle Ted on 03/17/2017 at 2:54 PM

Re: “Streets of This Town: Easy Living.

This is Treat Avenue.

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Posted by SonoranWinds on 03/17/2017 at 12:59 PM

Re: “"Kiss Me, I'm the Descendant of Irish Immigrants!"

Is there a minute in the day when Safier is not full of hate? Is there any wrong, real or contrived, that Safier won't find Trump responsible?

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Posted by What, Again on 03/17/2017 at 12:50 PM

Re: “"Kiss Me, I'm the Descendant of Irish Immigrants!"

I wear green to celebrate them not me. To refuse is simply racist.

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Posted by Kiss My Blarney Barney on 03/17/2017 at 9:57 AM

Re: “Streets of This Town: Smoke It If You Got It.

Nice photo!

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Posted by David Safier on 03/17/2017 at 9:44 AM

Re: “Talking Freedom of the Press with Journalists Maureen Dowd, Joe Conason and Evan Thomas

Whoohooo! What, Again dickfest!

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Posted by Real Christians are embarrassed that W.A. identifies with them. on 03/17/2017 at 8:17 AM

Re: “Southern AZ Pols React to Rep. Steve King's Celebration of Whiteness

Nobody wants to hear about your little Jimmie W.A.

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Posted by What, Again is failing at being a Christian & a good commenter. on 03/17/2017 at 7:20 AM

Re: “Southern AZ Pols React to Rep. Steve King's Celebration of Whiteness

Grijalva's as much of a racist as King, just swings the other way.
There's nothing wrong with reducing immigration - this is our country, for native Americans, blacks, whites, Latinx, Asian, etc. this is where we will raise our children and grandchildren so we should leave them a country to live in that is not overpopulated. And not all supporters of reducing immigration are racists.

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Posted by bslap on 03/17/2017 at 6:29 AM

Re: “Streets of This Town: Smoke It If You Got It.

Trek on urban hiker.

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Posted by Richard Gray on 03/17/2017 at 5:38 AM

Re: “Is Antisemitism Rising to the Threat Level?

Odds are that the crime was committed by a liberal for the explicit purpose of generating stories like this blaming Trump. There are a whole series of crimes like this. Please follow up with a column apologizing to Trump when the truth comes out.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 03/17/2017 at 3:19 AM

Re: “Laughing Stock: Frank Powers' Life in the Funnies

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Posted by Frank Powers on 03/16/2017 at 11:35 PM

Re: “Fund to Help Islamic Center is Real Deal

Ehud -

I don't think Betts is happy with Palestinian leadership or the oppression of women, gays, or other minorities in the Palestinian Authority areas in Gaza or the West Bank. I think these are concerns, but that she may view and end to the post '67 occupation as a panacea, or that the Occupation may overshadow those concerns.

My concern is that she seems to have aligned herself with groups that have legitimized a number of things I disagree with. These groups legitimize a host of things, from blanket economic sanctions which punish Jews and Non-Jews, including Muslims and Christians through well-intended but faulty BDS efforts, to the idea that terrorist violence against civilians is a legitimate tool of resistance.

I think she and I both hope and long for peace, but by different means, and I fear that she does not fully realize the fears that we as Jews have of annihilation. At least her support of certain organizations seems to indicate an indifference toward Jewish continuity in the pursuit of peace.

I hope that as we Jews hear and listen to the complaints of our Palestinian, Muslim, Arab, brothers and sisters, we will be sensitive as well to their hopes and fears.

Until then, For Zion's sake, I cannot be silent; If I forget Jerusalem, may I lose my capacity for other good speech and good deeds.

Marty

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Posted by MJ on 03/16/2017 at 5:36 PM

Re: “Fund to Help Islamic Center is Real Deal

Thanks for the vote of confidence on this issue, Betts. I know we are very different, and both quirky.

I remain steadfast in my belief that a Jewish national homeland in our ancestral homeland with self-determination is essential to our survival. I think where we disagree is on how Jews should treat our Palestinian brothers and sisters, how we view the conflict, and how we acheive peace. We both share the notion that many acts from Israeli Jews are deplorable, illegal and immoral. I question whether you view similar acts from Palestinian Muslims as deplorable, illegal or immoral, or if you see them as legitimate tools of resistance to the Post 1967 Occupation.

I don't think I contacted your campaign directly, but I did alert media and voters that Betts had participated in protests that I thought were over the line - picketing a Jewish Community Center and scaring pre-school kids, and you aligned with or supportive of groups which dismissed the deaths of Jews in terror attacks. One group you partnered with was described as minimizing the Nazi Holocaust. Serious stuff. But we can disagree, and I think we both assume the other has positive intentions. At least I assume your intentions are positive, loving, and hopeful of peace.

I hope that my affection for the Muslim community shows you that I share those intentions, despite our differences.

I've said before that I think you'd make a great school board member, except for the fact that I would be afraid that middle east politics might get in the way vis a vis curriculum, and that disqualifies you from serving.

I don't believe I denigrated anyone, but if you'd like to send me comments that people found offensive, I'd be happy to review them. I struggle with reacting instead of responding. I work on that. Especially when people tell lies about me, as your supporters did in some posts. (e.g. that I think Israel can do no wrong.)
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I am thrilled that Betts and I have found agreement on this issue and hope that we can work together in the future. G-d willing/B'ezrat Hashem/InshAllah, we can participate in a Muslim-Jewish/ Jewish-Muslim PeaceWalk event.

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Posted by MJ on 03/16/2017 at 5:25 PM

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