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Re: “Southern Arizona Sanctuary Movement Makes a Statement

I hope that the IRS under President Trump looks into whether religious organizations that aid and abet criminal fugitives are entitled to keep their tax exempt status. The taxpayers certainly should not be expected to subsidize this.

It's important to realize that we are not, generally speaking, talking about people who are at risk of being sent back to face authoritarian death squads for being political dissidents. It isn't 1986 any more. We are, generally speaking, talking about economic migrants who snuck into our country, in violation of our laws, because they wanted to improve their lifestyles. Fair enough. Everyone would like to have more money, better housing, better schools for their kids, etc. But that doesn't entitle anyone to violate the law, and it doesn't make them heroes when they do.

Additionally, SSPC is talking about shielding people who are already subject to deportation orders. These are people who have had their due process. They have had notice and a hearing before a federal immigration judge. They just don't want to comply with the judge's order. Ask yourself whether anyone would come to your defense if you just decided, arbitrarily, that a judge's orders just shouldn't apply to you.

As yesterday's riots in DC demonstrated, the left seems to believe that is morally entitled to ignore the law. They aren't. No more anarchy. Enough is enough.

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Posted by Nathan K on 01/21/2017 at 10:36 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch Begins in Earnest

Yeah. just think. People may have to get off their asses and get back to work. Pity that.

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Posted by CW13 on 01/21/2017 at 9:55 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch Begins in Earnest

I'm such a fucking idiot. Someone just informed me that a presidential term only lasts 4 years. Not to mention I was also informed that these next 4 years will not necessarily be great, in fact they may suck a boatload of ass. Hold on to your seat and get ready for the deathride!

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Posted by Juan Two Three on 01/21/2017 at 7:59 AM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

There are two problem with your argument, "Frances."

1. You assume "unregulated charter schools" and "unregulated private religious schools" can be contrasted with "regulated public district schools." The fact of the matter is that there are regulations on the books that are supposed to govern public district schools, but many of them, including many of the regulations relating to financial transparency, proper bidding practices, etc., are not enforced. About the only thing in Arizona education that is uniform and reliable is lack of proper oversight, and that applies to all three sectors: charter, private, and public district. It's the Wild West, across the board.

2. Conservatives don't want three systems funded, as though this costs 3x as much as funding one system. They want the per pupil funding which is allocated once per pupil to be transportable. If it is not applied in the public system, they want parents to have the option of applying it (or part of it) in alternative schools. It's a zero sum game: when the per pupil funding leaves the public system, so does the cost of educating that child. No one is "stealing" money that belongs to public schools. The money belongs with the child, to support their education. When the child goes, the money goes, too, and that is as it should be.

I know it's hard for monopolists to give up their death-grip on the commodity and market share they've been accustomed to controlling utterly. Their rage at the interruption of their inappropriate and counter-productive privilege is a lot of what we hear in the constant, dishonest "anti-privatization" rants in Safier's blog, in these comment streams, and elsewhere. But perhaps it is time to face the truth: if districts like TUSD had actually provided high quality services and served the best interests of their former students, they wouldn't be having the problems with declining enrollment they've been having now for more than a decade.

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Posted by Monopolists like "Frances" should stop whining. on 01/20/2017 at 9:12 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch Begins in Earnest

David. I suggest you get a deck of cards and deal with it.

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Posted by CW13 on 01/20/2017 at 8:47 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Sanctuary Movement Makes a Statement

There is no federal law that says these havens for criminals cannot be raided and shut down. So this to holie to be arrested is simply a delusion.

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Posted by Azson on 01/20/2017 at 8:39 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Sanctuary Movement Makes a Statement

Would Tucson's religious left give "sanctuary" to a white person wanted for federal income evasion, or is it only for brown people?

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Posted by Nathan K on 01/20/2017 at 8:29 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Sanctuary Movement Makes a Statement

"He is going to deport the most dangerous criminal illegal immigrants." Oh, horrors, we can't have that. It can't be true anyway because everyone knows they are all good people who just want to help their families. They wouldn't do anything bad, would they. Not really.

Perhaps we wouldn't be having this conversation if millions of Mexicans hadn't swarmed our borders. Did the open border advocates really believe Americans would accept an invasion without pushing back.

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Posted by AZRLS on 01/20/2017 at 8:06 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch Begins in Earnest

Maybe some of Hillary's people will chalk up some sidewalks and make everyone feel better.

Run, run, the sky is falling!

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Posted by AZRLS on 01/20/2017 at 8:02 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch Begins in Earnest

8 great years. Get ready you cupcakes.

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Posted by Juan Two Three on 01/20/2017 at 6:29 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Sanctuary Movement Makes a Statement

Wed. Aug 31st in a campaign speech in Phoenix.
We are going to triple the number of ICE deportation officers, Trump said. Within ICE, I am going to create a new special deportation task force focused on identifying and quickly removing the most dangerous criminal illegal immigrants in America who have evaded justice.

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Posted by merlin4582 on 01/20/2017 at 6:04 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch Begins in Earnest

"Houdini-level verbal escape artists who lie, deflect, distract"...what does that remind me of, locally?

Oh yeah:

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/archives/2016/07/18/another-look-at-tusd-salary-hikes-and-prop-123

http://www.buckmastershow.com/2016/07/21/buckmaster-show-7212016-post-proposition-123-fallout/

(In the Buckmaster program, the lies, deflections and distractions start at about minute 33, when David Safier first opens his mouth and starts doing his SPIN on Prop 123 spending in TUSD.)

FYI, David, the frog has already boiled and he is long since dead. The turning point may have come in 2008, when it became clear that the financial industry in this country would be allowed to get away with anything, like a naughty child whose mommy excuses his destructive bad behavior and makes the servants (in the US, the work-for-a-living, taxpaying, gullible middle class) clean up his messes for him. At this point both sides, Republican & Democrat, are fully immersed in lies, deflections, distractions, spin, all masking the fact that Wall Street and / or the billionaire class owns both major parties. Different party, different set of hedge fund managers or industrialists. "Would you like the vanilla or rainblow flavor of neo-liberal capitalist exploitation?" That's the "choice" the American political system offers us at this point.

The NYTimes has this THREAT watch beat well covered, so you can leave the national scene to them and go back to defending the Grijalva network in Tucson. From the looks of recent TUSD Board meetings, they have their own set of THREATs to deal with, and they will no doubt continue to need a lap dog to yip at their enemies for them.

(Nintzel has already been at it, with Rachael Sedgwick:
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/the-skinny/Content?oid=7371725
I'm surprised you haven't joined him yet.)

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Posted by The frog has already boiled, David. on 01/20/2017 at 3:14 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Sanctuary Movement Makes a Statement

Special deportation force. Where does he get these things? Oh by the way. As of today it's President Trump !!

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Posted by CW13 on 01/20/2017 at 2:22 PM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

Conservatives want the taxpayers to pay for three school systems. The real public schools, the unregulated charter school profit industry, and unregulated private religious schools. They are perfectly happy to "throw money at the problem" as long as they benefit directly, like your Senate President. Put it to a Statewide vote in plain language, like they are constantly whining about for public school bonds and overrides, Do you approve of your taxpayer money going to unregulated, for profit charter schools, and unregulated private religious schools, Yes or No. Betsy DeVos tried it in Michigan and hoped her bank roll could convince the voters in that State. They voted overwhelmingly against it.

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 01/20/2017 at 1:53 PM
Posted by Mike Reaves on 01/20/2017 at 12:08 PM

Re: “Southern Arizona Sanctuary Movement Makes a Statement

Don't expect David Safier to get the details right when he's reporting about his political adversaries. His technique is more scattershot: blast them with whatever you've got, real, distorted, and / or invented. Cf. his attacks on the IEC TKF before the TUSD Board election.

Does he care who and what gets hurt in the process? The truth, people with whom he disagrees politically, or local parents donating and volunteering generously to try to improve our schools?

Not a bit.

The most laughable portions of his blog are those where he tries to work up righteous indignation about "fake news" and distortions of THE TRUTH by his political adversaries. As if he's not guilty of same, and regularly.

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Posted by The Safier Scattershot Technique of "Reporting" on 01/20/2017 at 6:38 AM

Re: “Save Our Guns

Yo paster. What fake news site did you get those fake numbers from? The Onion? Newsmax? Wow, they're not even close enough to call passable BS. So sad.

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Posted by Kenneth Groves on 01/20/2017 at 5:18 AM

Re: “Trump's Election Has Been Very Good For K12 Inc.

"You may have heard of Democrats for Education Reform. Like the AFC, it's a vocal charter supporter, though a somewhat quieter voucher supporter." Not sure where you're getting your information from because DFER has never supported vouchers, only charter schools. However, given the fact that you misidentified AFC as AFT throughout the article, perhaps it's not surprising you don't have your facts straight.

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Posted by Peter C. Cook on 01/19/2017 at 10:59 PM

Re: “Ward 3 Tucson City Council Candidate Pool Is Filling Up

Excuse me where is the Julian Mazza tag? :p

Posted by Zy Mazza on 01/19/2017 at 9:27 PM

Re: “A Beloved Local Musician in Need: Local Music Superpowers Rally to Help

Screaming all the way from the city of Detroit,Michigan Travis I got you bruhh say no more. (Gofundme)praying you get well soon.

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Posted by Darnell Patton on 01/19/2017 at 8:17 PM

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