Typo: John Driggs. Sorry.
Only 6 dislikes ? You should try being me sometime !!
Kentop - I was just jerking your chain. I read Danehy (and these boards) every week and though we share most basic political views, I am occasionally in the other camp. I am, for example, a registered Independent who once had children enrolled a charter school. That said, complaining about what a waste of time Tom's column is is an oddly common occurrence, mainly voiced by people who clearly read and post regularly. Nothing wrong with reading opposing thought even if only for the sake of being critical on the message boards. Calling it a waste of time, though, just seems a bit disingenuous to me. Surely by now it has been enough of a time-waste to consider cutting it out altogether.
Brad - Reading Tom's article made me regret the few minutes I wasted that I will never get back. Whatever Tom was paid to write that blather, it was way, way to much and not worth the paper and ink to publish it. That's what I meant when I said it was expensive to write about it. But hey, I got 6 dislikes, so my work here is done!
Well, I guess you didn't like Carl Hayden very much, huh? You forgot to pick on that big fountain that was in his park, Tom. The one that wasted all that water for all those years. (Or, weren't you here during that time?)
John Greenway is being replaced by Goldwater because an idiot from Phoenix (John Droggs) happened to visit the Statuary Hall and thought who the hell is John Greenway. So he started an effort to get rid of Greenway and replace him with Goldwater. Typical Phoenix asshole. Driggs ignored our state's mining history or didn't care.
Greenway will be placed in a dumping ground park in Phoenix. From what I figure its a place where Arizona dumps its unwanted statues and memorials.
Look at it this way in 80 years or so someone will replace Goldwater with someone else.
Kentop - "Writing about it" is expensive? Also, in consideration of all things time-wasteful, where would you rank reading and posting about it?
Tom, thank you for writing this. I for one enjoyed learning about our on-going history. It is sad to say that some people are not nearly as productive, all we can learn from them is their ability to criticize.
What? Lute Olson doesn't have a statue in the rotunda? This oversight must be corrected immediately! Deciding whose statue is on display in the nation's capitol is the most trivial, expensive waste of time ever. So is writing about it.
Times haven't changed much, have they?
" Conservatives" like Tom tend to be dubious.
Turning this article into an indictment against America's education system is dubious. You can find kids who are smart and dedicated to their interests in spite of the conditions in which they are being raised. There is no minimum standard of support required to produce a prodigy. Of course it helps, but the child's inner drive is what makes the difference. You can't teach that.
I was never told by a teacher to stop working ahead or to stay at the class level. I'd finish my work and then either read a book or work on other homework. At one point they started a "Gifted" class so all of us overachievers would have someplace to be challenged. The common denominator? We had parents that supported learning, we were the same group of kids participating at group events at the library, in 4-H, and other extra-curricular learning opportunities. It was always other students that put the pressure on..."stop messing up the curve!" was what I heard a lot of in High School.
But maybe things have changed. These days, parents treat teachers like babysitters and parents expect their kids to just keep moving on, whether they've learned anything or not. I know that's why my father quit teaching...no administration support when my dad tried to flunk a kid that wouldn't do any work, his Marine Corps officer father went ballistic and blamed my dad for his son being an underachiever.
Be kind..he is only writing about the only topic he knows! Girls BB.
Ask her a question, Tom: How much did she use calculators in her early elementary school years? From what I know of Chinese education (a brief visit with graduate engineers in Xian a couple of decades ago), there was lots of rote learning, memorization of 'facts' and mental computation. And there is another thing, Tom. Our public schools are so muscle-bound to 'stay with the class' and 'you must learn this by this time or flunk' and 'don't get ahead of everyone else', that, had she gone to your public school she would probably now be a pleasant, happy, outgoing, popular cheerleader for your girls' team. Finally, I bet she was never told that everything she learned had to be applied to 'real life' situations. She'd have gotten side-tracked into figuring out calories or nutrition, or even recipes or perhaps how to make a bobsled slide better.
I nominate Danehick as the most boring columnist ever....
The creation of the "other", Independent vs. Democrats vs. Republican, is what has polarized and continues to be so divisive in this country and one of the many reasons why I refuse to be registered as either party.
I agree that Independents are not necessarily a movement but a change in how citizens see the political climate in this country; those of us that vote, vote on issues and not along party lines. Politicians have to work for my vote. I would consider going back to a political party if what you wrote held true. If Democrats & Republicans could WORK TOGETHER as a political party and with each other to form a better country.
"It takes a certain amount of strength to be a member of a political party. You have to come together with a wide array of people with whom you agree on some—but certainly not all—things. You have to work with people to help nudge the United States onto a path where it will become a better country for all Americans. It takes strength to stand up for something; not so much to flap in the breeze."
Tom - I respect ur opinion & most of the time I tend to agree w/U, but NOT on this topic: I vote for the person & what they stand for & NOT what political party the belong to!
Snarking over the Republican slide to insanity it great fun for Tom and other Democratic True Believers. It is just so damned easy, especially at the state level where our legislators in the next session will be debating the laws of gravity and what happened on the eighth day of creation.
But for an Independent, me, it is a tad disconcerting to live in a city that has been owned, lock stock and barrel, by the Dems for the 21 years I've lived here; a city government that routinely screws the pooch every time funds are forthcoming from the state or federal governments. Dare I mention Rio Nuevo (I know the name's being changed and well it's past history and impolite and we need to move on and all). And even the resident Dem pundit/cartoonist recognizes the failure of the Dem run government to even fix potholes or pave streets once in say every 25 years.
So Tom, many of us slackers do vote in every election just not in lock step with either the Democrats or the Republicans. Many of us pick the lesser of the two evils, occasionally actually agreeing with a candidate despite the party affiliation. The true slackers are those party members who vote by reflex pulling the lever be it D or R. That is mindless and one reason Tucson is in the shape it's in. Your problem, Tom, is the same rigid orthodoxy you poke dun at in others namely "It's a two party system, the good Democrats are for the people, the bad Republicans are for the business interests; vote D."
Perhaps it's better to be a slacker than a fool.
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