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Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

I must really have mental illness. I keep responding to my own messages and I keep referencing a rock group that isn't even here. It was bound to happen, I was already way off my rocker.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 8:23 PM

Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

I initially sent this to the Weekly as a Letter to the Editor, but apparently it did not make the cut for publication, so here goes anyway

In light of recent events concerning the posting of false articles, also known as fake news online which may or may not have influenced this presidential election I thought it past time that we examine what has happened to the quickly vanishing free press in the digital age of amateur journalists.

Journalism is not the first institution to be dismantled by the sirens song of making fortunes by breaking down old outdated barriers in the name of a new more public world of opportunity promised by the internet.

Some people may remember when Wall Street and the markets around the world were ruled by laws and by long-standing practices and traditions that ensured stability, before the fast and furious introduction of day-traders and like-minded trading houses that geared their business to creating volatile markets that could make fortunes in a day for the select few with enough funding and bring other businesses to ruin. In those days, an investor was someone who carefully and thoughtfully made an investment into something that may not have seen a return for years, not the parasitic hoards that ravage the markets today looking for a quick turnaround and creating a feeding frenzy that rewards companies that liquidate jobs and people with their costly salaries, benefits and retirements to appear more attractive to potential investors.

The decline of journalism in the United States has been driven by the same mindset that took down Wall Street. The careful, time-consuming and sometimes costly reporting of the past was traded for quick attention-grabbing headlines with minimal reporting geared to online platforms for people too busy, too disinterested and too distracted to realize that their world has been taken over and controlled by multinational and global interests that see them as nothing more than a revenue stream through the consumption of fast news with the same benefits to the mind as fast food has for your health and the endless trivial, vitriolic and mindless content provided for free by countless amateurs who post their thoughts and feelings online like the internet is some giant electronic bulletin board, or more truthfully a digital bathroom wall.

Now we are faced with not knowing how much of this news is actually false and baseless click-bait geared to generate money, undermine truth or both and the biggest irony of all is that some of the providers of this questionable caustic content tell us they cannot or will not monitor and mediate because they would not want to discourage free speech. Bull! How many people remember the example of free speech being limited by prohibiting someone from yelling fire in a crowded theater? Allowing the posting of fake news that can influence actions and decisions in the real world is yelling fire in a crowded theater except in this case it is happening 24-hours a day, 365-days a year around the world. We used to call these false stories propaganda, but even propaganda usually started with a grain of truth that was twisted to some other purpose you know, like advertising.

Today, more than ever, people need to check facts and consider the source of the information they use to make decisions. It is not easy and those that want to continue to control you will not make it easy. They will feed you quick, prepackaged custom news to give you the illusion of staying informed, just like the fast food industry will give you fatty, salty, sugary, carbonated crap to give you the illusion of nutrition.

So, where does that leave us? First, start reading newspapers again. I know that could be hard, especially since many local papers have become shadows of what they used to be, but the big national papers are still a good source for finding out what is going on. Second, stop getting all your news from boutique news outlets that cater to your particular point of view. Sure it is nice to view or read things that make you feel good about yourself and your opinions, but that does not mean you know what is going on in the world. The Republican Party found that out in 2012 and the Democratic Party found that out this year. You cannot have an open mind living inside a closed bubble. Lastly, start using social media to elevate civil conversations and discourse. Sure, there will still be bullies and trolls, but if people are having intelligent conversations those people will stand out like the costumed characters flooding Time Square in New York and who wants to listen to a naked cowboy or bearded teletubbies.

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Posted by sgsmith on 01/17/2017 at 7:10 PM

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"After all, journalists are the ones who maintain your Fourth Estate and are ultimately the glue that keep your democracy intact." This is what journalists are supposed to be. Journalists are supposed to report factually without interjecting their personal viewpoints into their reports. When that occurs, you've traversed the line between journalism and editorialism, which is inherently biased and invalidates the "checks and balances" responsibility of the Fourth Estate. I wish you luck in your fledgling career. However, if you want to be a true journalist, TW is not the place to do it as the publication is unapologetically biased.

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Posted by OldSchoolJournalismMajor on 01/17/2017 at 6:23 PM

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Ac/Dc - first you dreamed of having your own crew of illegals to serve you, then you had the crusties, now your heart is going to explode - hope you've paid your obamacare premiums cuz I heard it also covers mental illness.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 6:17 PM

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Oh God! I feel as if my heart is going to explode!

I'm really sorry for being the most obnoxious troll on this site! I rue all that I have done and I promise not to troll anymore as long as nobody else attacks me with logic. Please, please, no more logic! I can't take it. It BURRRRNNNS!!

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 4:52 PM

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Great example of liberals faking it again. No wonder they are so sexually frustrated.

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Posted by Judy Judge on 01/17/2017 at 4:49 PM

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Ok! Ok!

I admit it! I'm a measly troll!

Just quit throwing logic my way, please!

You don't understand how much all this intelligent investigation into what real news is is killing a fool such as myself! Please, please, please stop! I am in a lot of pain!

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 4:46 PM

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Stop some guy! Please stop!

Logic and common sense burns like acid on my brain!

I can't hang! You liberals outsmart me every time!

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 4:38 PM

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And I oughta know about Fake News! I provide links to it on a daily basis.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 4:35 PM

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Dude, that's direct from abc news, and yes, it is Fake News Central!

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 4:16 PM

Re: “A Dollar a Day, and Other Observations About Ducey's Education Funding Proposal

"More than $100 million for education isn't nothing."

One of my second grade teachers taught me that if it is not nothing, it is something.

I would think it is.

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Posted by Donna E on 01/17/2017 at 4:02 PM

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I am beginning to believe it. You know when Obama was elected in 2008 he said he would "fundamentally transform America." Eight years later I am opposed to any more transformation because his presidency will go down in history as one of the most damage a sitting President has done to our country. The problem is I don't think many of us thought we he meant was what we thought it meant.

Were we blinded by the financial collapse of our economy? Even though it only initially harmed a small percentage. The rest of us languished in the aftermath for eight long years.

The Great Depression didn't last this long. Hey, there's his legacy.....

The Worst Attempted Recovery In The History Of The US.

Let's move forward, please.

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Posted by George S on 01/17/2017 at 3:57 PM

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We even have a CIA director that voted for a communist, true that.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 3:51 PM

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George S- with liberals, giving state secrets to our enemies is good, exposing liberal corruption to Americans is bad. Most liberals do hate America.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 3:47 PM

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dude, you just used an actual fake news site to 'prove' that the Washington Post traffics in fake news. research your sources. just because they says things you want to hear does not make them credible.

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Posted by someguy on 01/17/2017 at 3:35 PM

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This is not fake news.

Obama commutes Manning sentence!

The "I hate America Tour" is almost over.

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Posted by George S on 01/17/2017 at 3:15 PM

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Then you're as close minded as a clam. Why do you choose ignorance? That much of a hack?

Here are the numbers directly from the ABC website, found way, way at the bottom.

"Partisan divisions are 31-23-37 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents."

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 3:04 PM

Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

if zerohedge is you're only source for this, then i have nothing else to add.

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Posted by someguy on 01/17/2017 at 2:49 PM

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someguy - the lie isn't the makeup of the respondents, the blatant lie is the reporting of the results. They absolutely knew of the oversampling, did not adjust for it and reported as if it wasn't there.

This is FAKE NEWS!

Trump to Enter Office as Most Unpopular President in at Least 40 Years, Poll Finds

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 2:45 PM

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Fair enough - their names are right there on the poll. i do think news organizations that do polling like ABC, WSJ, Washington Post, NBC, FOX - all of those - are big, divided organizations where the polling is not done by journalists but by in-house or 3rd party polling experts contracted to do the research.

I do however find it hard to believe that they would make a poll with intentional bias built in. That is self-defeating,

However a president who got significantly fewer votes than his opponent is going to be unpopular going into office. That's just a numbers game.

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Posted by someguy on 01/17/2017 at 2:28 PM

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