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Re: “The Verdict is in and the Show Will Go On

That's from a long line of IIIs.

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Posted by Suzi Q on 07/19/2016 at 10:06 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

And what about the children?

8 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by I Give Up On TUSD on 07/19/2016 at 10:00 PM

Re: “Turkey's Failed Coup Attempt: The Charter School Connection

Gulen turns out to be the good guy here as Erdogan is moving Turkey towards sharia law and radical Islam. Any wonder Obama asked us to support Erdogan? It's time you ask what is our President doing.

11 likes, 16 dislikes
Posted by Rat T on 07/19/2016 at 8:24 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123


You are a poor excuse for a journalist. How dare you defend these cronies. Your argument does not make any sense. You are missing the point. Yes teachers received a raise prior to prop 123. It was also explicitly said by HT if it passes teachers would get even more. Stop getting lost in words your just as bad as Sanchez, who I pray will move back to Texas. Excuse my French but fuck you! Straight up fuck you David.

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Posted by Tusdisajoke on 07/19/2016 at 6:39 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

What NO ONE has yet addressed here is David Safier’s lack of journalistic objectivity. He has gotten behind Sanchez and excused every mis-step the man has taken, along with his go-along Board majority. Safier's ties with Jen Darland (the candidate who ran and lost the last time around), Kristal Foster, and HT Sanchez (and his very close ties- Cam Juarez and Adelita Grijalva) has been apparent since HT Sanchez began inviting Safier in to his inner-sanctum. Safier thinks himself to be more knowledgeable about TUSD because, after all, he believes everything he is told by HT and members of the Board majority. He investigates little, if any at all, and regurgitates much of what he is told. It is sloppy journalism; especially for the Tucson Weekly, which was, not long ago, notorious for its coverage on TUSD.

I recall the stunt Safier pulled in “exposing” Michael Hicks' bankruptcy, an idea fed to him by Kristal Foster and a show of lacking empathy. The aim was to weaken Hicks in his bid for re-election and to strengthen their candidate- Jen Darland. It did not work. Hicks beat Darland. Many did not vote for her simply because of her association with the current Board majority and they were likely right to do so. She and all of the above-named characters were very loud proponents for Prop 123. At least 4 of them knew they were lying to the public. In the case of TUSD 123 has proven to be a sham. The political incest that has taken hold of TUSD has pushed it back to the days of good-ol’-boy insider favoritism. It is poisoning it to the core. Safier fuels it through the Tucson Weekly. It needs to be stopped!

Vote Foster and Juarez the hell out of their seats.

GCB- So glad to see you take on the TUSD block! Keep doing it.

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Posted by Safier Should Be Pulled from Writing Anything About TUSD on 07/19/2016 at 6:00 PM

Re: “Sounds From Day One of the Republican National Convention

well done. passing it on....

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Posted by Glenn Weyant 1 on 07/19/2016 at 4:57 PM
Posted by Danny Romero on 07/19/2016 at 4:19 PM

Re: “Turkey's Failed Coup Attempt: The Charter School Connection

Sorry, I'm having trouble understanding what the purpose of this story is.

If I understand it correctly, it says that one of the people being targeted by Erdogan is Gulen, who is connected with the charter schools called "Sonoran Science Academies," which may have religious connections in violation of public charter funding rules, and that IF Gulen continues to get media coverage in connection with the Turkish coups attempt, we MAY hear more about Gulen, about whom Safier and Vanderpool and Steller have written previously.

Is there "news" here above and beyond the vacuous "recent developments may mean that you will hear more about this topic in the future"? How is this "information," which could be conveyed in one sentence, worth the time it took to read the four paragraphs Tucson Weekly gave it?

Safier sometimes posts a new piece immediately after the comment stream on one of his previous pieces starts going in a direction not favorable to the interpretation of events he is trying to promote. Perhaps he needed something to post when commenters on this piece, the last he wrote, persisted in strongly criticizing his take on TUSD's use of 123 funding:

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Posted by Purpose of this piece? on 07/19/2016 at 3:57 PM

Re: “Turkey's Failed Coup Attempt: The Charter School Connection

one more reason to end the h-1b guest worker program.

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Posted by Scott Wilson on 07/19/2016 at 3:29 PM

Re: “Sounds From Day One of the Republican National Convention

Your comment is incoherent, Larry.

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Posted by Peabo on 07/19/2016 at 3:24 PM

Re: “Sounds From Day One of the Republican National Convention

I also knew you had a plan when you tried to invite violence 1st the TUCSON Trump rally. Who do you work for #2?

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Posted by Larry McNeil on 07/19/2016 at 3:10 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

David Safier:

You write: "TUSD said to its teachers, 'We're going to give you a $1,300 raise, guaranteed, even if Prop 123 fails. If it passes, we'll add another $700, bringing the total to $2,000.'

Is this what the district SAID to its teachers BEFORE 123 passed? Did those who chose to campaign in support of the proposition and vote for it have that understanding explicitly, that if 123 passed only an additional $700 would be coming to them and 2/3 of the 123 funds would be going to other purposes? I talked with a TUSD teacher just this morning, and that was NOT what I heard. What I heard was that teachers were EXPLICITLY given the impression that all or the great majority of what came from 123 would be devoted to further improving teachers' salaries, over and above what had been done previously. Hence the outrage from teachers and others commenting here and elsewhere.

Please note that it is not valid to revise the story after the fact. Whether or not the district's representatives LIED is based on the difference between what TUSD reps said BEFORE 123 PASSED and what they did AFTER IT PASSED. This ex post facto story-doctoring you are doing entirely fails to cloak the fact that there is no correspondence between what supporters were told by district reps while they were being recruited to campaign for 123 and what happened afterwards.

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Posted by What were teachers told BEFORE 123 passed? on 07/19/2016 at 1:46 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

Frances Perkins: What makes you think that those complaining about current TUSD governance have not also worked against Ducey, against 123, against anti-public education candidates and in support of our public schools?

The fact is, Frances, that the existence of Ducey and his ALEC buddies in Phoenix is NOT an excuse for every malfeasant action of every public administrator in our underfunded Southern Arizona institutions. There are effective and ineffective ways to deal with the difficult situation public administrators are in right now in this state. The "strategies" (if they can be called that) being pursued by the current TUSD Board majority and their employee the Superintendent are extremely problematic, and that argument can be defended with a string of facts, as "Supporting Public Ed" did in one of the comments above.

Consider this: in a situation where funding flowing from the state is gravely insufficient, the capability of public administrators to build sufficient trust with the public so that bonds and overrides can be moved forward successfully is crucial. When administrative and governance actions over the course of an extended period systematically and repeatedly destroy the public's trust rather than building it, that's a serious problem and one the public would be well advised to take into consideration when they make decisions about how to vote in leadership elections:

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Posted by Public Ed Supporters are also angry about TUSD. on 07/19/2016 at 1:24 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

gcb1, I disagree with your analysis. If you think I was too convoluted and took too many words to explain what happened, let me try and make it simpler.

TUSD said to its teachers, "We're going to give you a $1,300 raise, guaranteed, even if Prop 123 fails. If it passes, we'll add another $700, bringing the total to $2,000."

Other Tucson-area districts said to their teachers, "We're not guaranteeing any salary raises. We'll wait to see if Prop 123 passes before we commit to anything."

That's what happened in a nutshell. What surprises me is that TUSD did such a lousy job of communicating what happened and allowed it to look like it cheated its teachers, when in fact, it was looking out for its teachers, no matter what happened in the Prop 123 election.

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Posted by David Safier on 07/19/2016 at 1:23 PM

Re: “Editor's Note

30-40 UNARMED black men, I apologize for the mistake. My source is the same as yours. In 2015 there were 38 unarmed black men shot and killed by police, so far this year there are 19.

Those other 100+ you want to add to the mix were ARMED at the time they were shot. Even amongst the unarmed men, most were shot after being tazed and continuing to attack officers or were going for the officers guns. GO read the reports, I did. A few more are tragic accidents and then, what's left? Maybe a handful of cases that amount to a bias or abuse of power by the police, and that is for the Justice Department to investigate, you know, the department headed by an incredible competent black woman who was nominated by a black president!

And meanwhile thousands of young black men are going to be murdered by other young black men.

Police officers are judged both by their badge and their race, the combination of the two can be lethal as we have seen in Dallas and Baton Rouge. To many of these people white cops are the 'devil' and black officers are 'Uncle Toms' or 'house *******'. Stereotypes and tropes that rob communities of the power to fix themselves by externalizing their issues are incredibly damaging for all of us in this society. The trope of the racist and abusive police officers hunting young black men is a most dangerous one and is one of the biggest threats to the futures of all Americans, not just the black men who are dying because of it.

How may more black men have to die before people like you realize that the police are a part of the solution and are not the problem?

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Posted by HumanBean on 07/19/2016 at 1:17 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

Prop 123 was a fraud essentially forced on the plaintiffs and the voters by a Biggs/Il Duce led legislature to make sure not one dime more of taxes anywhere goes to public schools. But we have dimes for private school subsidies, and prisons, prisons, and more prisons, and funding a parallel school system (privately operated charters) who do no better but waste more money and have less accountability. Now you all are pouncing on the local board for trying to balance teacher salaries, lack of books and technical equipment, and roof, rest room, and air conditioning repairs. The Biggs/Il Duce coalition violates the State Constitution with impunity and all you do is bitch about the TUSD board. Direct some energy for pro-public school candidates (regardless of party). Where is step two there Ducey?

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Posted by Frances Perkins on 07/19/2016 at 12:48 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

Thank you, Georgia Cole Brousseau. That is exactly right.

David: you are so untrustworthy, and you have NO regard for the truth. Do you think you are writing for an audience of idiots? It's insulting, what you expect us to swallow -- you even write things in the comment stream on your own blog that contradict what you wrote in the blog.

In your comment response to Lillian, you write "I was writing to refute the Star articles which left the impression that TUSD raises were lower than what other Tucson area districts gave their teachers. That assertion is incorrect."

But in the blog you wrote, "Because it left out TUSD's May 10 teacher raise, [the Star's] "CONCLUSION THAT TUSD RENEGED ON ITS PLEDGE TO ITS TEACHERS IS INACCURATE." It DID renege on its pledge to the teachers, which was that the 123 MONEY would be used for teacher raises. This shell game in which you seem to assert that the raise granted on May 10 should be considered a loan from the M&O fund to be paid back from 123 if the proposition passed is pure BS. That was not an explicit agreement made in advance of the vote on 123 with the people who were deployed to promote the Proposition and vote for it. Ask the teachers what Sanchez said, what Kristel Foster said. They lied AGAIN -- it has been their habit for three years now and they've been getting away with it, but THANK GOD the public is finally catching on.

Perhaps you should find another hobby in your retirement. People who experience the on-the-ground reality in these institutions do not appreciate the way you occupy your time by playing disingenuous word games in defense of your political buddies and their administrative and governance actions. The mismanagement we've seen for three solid years now is harming real people, degrading the quality of education available to tens of thousands of students. STOP lying about it and collaborating with those who lie about it.

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Posted by Wrong Again, David Safier on 07/19/2016 at 12:43 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

David, when it takes this many words and such convoluted argument to try to explain what happened, it becomes even more clear that people (voters) were deliberately misled by the board and to what would be done. If Kristel and Adelita and Cam knew that the 123 money would be spent with 2/3 going to other categories and still told the public that the 123 money would all be spent on teacher salaries, then they lied to the public and pulled a "bait and switch." If they didn't know this at the time of the articles, interviews, etc. then they are not in charge of the finances of the district, and that is their job. If they blindly agreed to the Pied Piper's plan and didn't speak up about it when it was presented for a vote, they have failed in their duty as board members again. I and many other people are angry, and used-car salesman techniques and savings/loan banker techniques to explain the financial situation is not working.

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Posted by gcb1 on 07/19/2016 at 12:12 PM

Re: “Another Look at TUSD Salary Hikes and Prop 123

Lillian, a few responses to your comments. First, my statement that 86 percent of the Prop 123 funds was a continuation of the earlier part of the paragraph, "If the district waited like other districts and took the entire $2,000 out of its Prop 123 funds, it would have amounted to 75 percent of the total." I was talking about the total salary increases, both from the May 10 board meeting and the Prop 123 funds. If I didn't make that clear, that's my fault for not phrasing it better. That goes for your statement about CFO Soto's presentation as well. She was referring to the amount of salary that was added after Prop 123 passed, while my point was to look at the total raise received by TUSD teachers and other employees. The employees don't really care if their 2016-17 raises were given in two parts or they received them all after Prop 123 passed. All that matters is the amount in their paychecks.

You say I accused other districts of shorting their employees by giving them bonuses. I said no such thing. Here's my point. The bonuses added to the raises put more money in teachers' pockets right now, which is good. But if the actual raise is lower, after a few years, teachers will find that they're getting less year by year than if they received bigger raises, and there will come a point where their total pay over the years will be less than teachers who got a larger raise at the beginning but no bonus. So it's a toss-up which is better for teachers, to get more money in the short run with the bonuses or more in the long run with the larger salary raise.

I'm pretty sure you're correct about other large districts paying higher salaries than TUSD. I believe the Tucson area districts in general pay less than districts in most other areas of Arizona. But that wasn't the subject of my post. I was writing to refute the Star articles which left the impression that TUSD raises were lower than what other Tucson area districts gave their teachers. That assertion is incorrect.

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Posted by David Safier on 07/19/2016 at 11:42 AM

Re: “Why Go to the GOP Convention?

Stop with the sexist put downs Bob. You diminish your thoughts. They can ill afford more diminishment.

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Posted by Julie Heston on 07/19/2016 at 10:26 AM

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