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Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

But voters also didn't cross party lines to elect the time of them. I was referencing the fact that Grijalva represented voters that did not support Obama. But this is now being brought about by gerrymandering and redrawing of lines. Something the framers also could not have seen coming.

Gerrymandering - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering
In the process of setting electoral districts, gerrymandering is a practice intended to establish a political advantage for a particular party or group by manipulating district boundaries.

So we are left with this. But it's a lot like those that say, Trump didn't win the popular vote so we should throw out the electoral college.

Those, are too desperate for an outcome. I trust the nation will survive.

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Posted by Patrick D on 03/24/2017 at 4:46 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

Patrick D, except that in your analogy between Obama and Grijalva, voters didn't cross party lines to elect both of them. In civics classes, we are taught that the three branches of government are "co-equal," but there is a strong indication that the framers did not intend even THIS. The argument goes, that the framers actually mean the Legislative Branch to be the strongest of the three, with Executive then Judiciary after it.

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Posted by Indivisible on 03/24/2017 at 4:25 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

Like most Repunblican Representatives, McSally has know suffered all of the negatives of talking up a bogus healthcare bill with none of the benefits of passing it. What a dumb strategic move.

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Posted by Jimmy Zuma on 03/24/2017 at 3:58 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

Are you familiar with the term, "you can not serve two masters?" Using your analogy, Grijalva should have kept a check on Obama. Does that make any sense to you? Civics lessons are not always reality.

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Posted by Patrick D on 03/24/2017 at 3:56 PM

Re: “No Healthcare Vote Today After All

I tend to look at it a little different Francis. Trump didn't draft it. Maybe he should have, but we would not have gotten to this precipice without him. So that means he is the catalyst.

I am for whatever it takes, because what we are doing is not sustainable. Only a fool would deny that.

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Posted by David W on 03/24/2017 at 3:52 PM

Re: “No Healthcare Vote Today After All

To the credit of moderate Republicans in Congress, they rejected Trump's "Health Care" proposal designed to enrich Insurance Companies at the expense of millions of low/moderate income Americans, the Elderly, and Veterans. Their message: they answer /are responsible to their constituents NOT Donald Trump!!

It can only be hoped that this will act as a catalyst for Democrats and Republicans to cooperate and essentially marginalize Donald Trump making his position Ceremonial at best!

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 03/24/2017 at 3:26 PM

Re: “No Healthcare Vote Today After All

You may have fallen off of Medicaid, but here is a startling headline:

Medicaid Babies: NM 72%, Nev 64%, NY 51%, Calif 50%..

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/24-states-50-babies-born-medicaid

So now the taxpayer is left with the choice of paying to deliver and support it, or paying to abort it. Is our citizenry being rewarded for exterminating children? Yeah you betcha'. And who will the government try to blame? Us.

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Posted by David W on 03/24/2017 at 3:15 PM

Re: “We Look Smaller in Boston

David,

You have a real opportunity to educate people with some of these posts but you seem to prefer copying from a source article and adding opinion instead of context. I know you used to be a teacher and I would think you are capable of adding more than your opinion to these sorts of things. Nuance and context really do matter and things like geography are important. This is a great platform for communication and I think you can do a better job!

Instead of telling people what to think, give them new information and context to try and help them think for themselves. Often it feels like you are doing only the bare minimum to collect your check and I know you are capable of more. I give you a C- for this blog post.

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Posted by HumanBean on 03/24/2017 at 3:01 PM

Re: “No Healthcare Vote Today After All

I feel that the best possible outcome for healthcare for Americans would be if the two parties got over themselves and tried to repair the system that is currently in place together, flawed as it is. We all know that this isn't going to happen anytime soon. But the moderate Dems and moderate Republicans probably have more in common than the extremes on either side.

Now, keeping in mind that it does need some work, the ACA DID succeed in bringing the uninsured rate to its lowest point in history, and allowed rural community health centers to open their doors to people who had long been denied care. Even within our own community, you can see centers such as UCHC expanding care in some of its most rural reaches in Amado, Arivaca and Three Points.

What is the difference between repeal/replace and a repair? Well, it could be nothing at all. I don't care what you call it, but whatever it is named it ought to keep provisions like the 10 essential benefits, protections for seniors and adult children, protections for people with pre-existing conditions and many of the other provisions outlined in the ACA. MOST importantly, it should NOT result in a decrease in the amount of people covered.

The AHCA bill would've dropped ~24 million people by 2026 (the CBO maintained this number throughout all the different iterations of the AHCA, btw). This is unacceptable, especially as these people are mostly those who gained care through the Medicaid expansion: working people, WORKING people, who made "too much" to be able to get Medicaid before, and not enough to be able to afford care.

As a person who once fell just outside of the Medicaid cutoff pre-ACA, I can tell you that even had the GOP ensured healthcare costs would drop down to $50 a month for my family of three, I never would've been able to afford it.

It remains to be seen if this whole debacle will help or harm McSally, but I am leaning towards harm. Whatever your views of our Representative are, we can't exist in an echo chamber. This failure to reconcile the far Right and the moderate Right is the same shananigans that we ruthlessly mocked the Democrats and the Blue Dog Democrats with seven years ago. And although their legislation ultimately passed, it made them walk away from it hurting and losing the mid-term election.

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Posted by Indivisible on 03/24/2017 at 2:44 PM

Re: “No Healthcare Vote Today After All

Make it stop! Ever since the Republicans rolled out their version of health care -- and they use the word "care" loosely -- with all the political theater and changes and modifications and mansplaining and on and on, it feels like this is some inside the beltway Game of Thrones Red Wedding episode where the only thing left alive will be the angry old vindictive white guy laughing at the carnage and grabbing the crotch of his underage daughter-bride.

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Posted by sgsmith on 03/24/2017 at 2:34 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

Rep. McSally is OUR representative for the next two-ish years, this is a fact that constituents who DID or DID NOT vote with her must reconcile with. The caveat is that Trump LOST the same district by 5 points, a fact that our Representative ought to remember. Summed up, the mandate for her in her district is to be a CHECK on executive powers, on Donald Trump.

While we might think that we only get a voice every two years during the elections, this is not true. It is high time that we remind Rep. McSally that she represents a district that likes her moderate rhetoric and her "maverick" ideals. We can do this by engaging with her office: call them up at (520)881-3588 and either lodge a comment OR set up a meeting with staff to discuss issues. This is a little known think that we, as constituents, can do. Gather up in a small group of like minded people, and call to schedule a meeting with Constantine or Nancy and come prepared for a good discussion about a single issue (since effective meetings start with a focused topic).

Engagement with your Congressional offices is intensely rewarding and is the next step in citizen engagement.

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Posted by Indivisible on 03/24/2017 at 2:21 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

Josh, would you vite with your antagonists, or your supporters in the last election, if it aligns with your core beliefs?

It sounds like your candidate lost. That has consequences. Your purpleness doesn't dictate anything.

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Posted by Purple People Eater on 03/24/2017 at 1:52 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

No need to call McSally's office, despite her pretense, we know how she will vote- WITH Trump:

Fivethirtyeight.com reports that McSally is in the top 10 of all 435 Representatives in the House as a partisan in favor of Trump. They report she has voted One Hundred Percent with Trump's agenda, despite the fact that CD 2 is one of the most "purple" districts in the country.

Just one example from 538's report: McSally, despite being from a district where our former Representative was shot in the head by a crazy person, just voted to prevent federal background checks on the mentally ill before they can buy a gun.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congr…

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Posted by Josh Leonard on 03/24/2017 at 1:46 PM

Re: “Does This Mean We Can Call It McSallyCare Now?

Everyone remember this when it's time to vote again-Please.

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Posted by Richard Bellamy on 03/24/2017 at 1:42 PM

Re: “No Healthcare Vote Today After All

Congressman McSally played this brilliantly. We state a position on legislation that isn't even getting a vote? If you believe the things that you wanted to see in it, are not there, you may cost yourself political capital on a future vote. As a resident of PC I feel we are currently in a better position than before the cancellation of the vote.

She COULD show real leadership and put real solutions together and get the votes, because quite honestly the ACA destroyed my health insurance. I would actually accept going back to where I was before Obama created this mess, and work out some real solutions.

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Posted by Chess Anyone? on 03/24/2017 at 1:39 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

I know how you feel Matt. When Gabby Giffords told us the border was secure I disagreed. And now we see the carnage of her lies. I wanted her voted out, but my vote was washed away by the open borders crowd. It's something you just have to get used to.

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Posted by Jim Donoghue on 03/24/2017 at 1:34 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

If the "Affordable Care Act simply isnt working.." why not fix it? Instead you've ridden this horse right off a cliff. Seven years of passing Obamacare repeal bills and this is what the GOP has been able to come up with? They are simply incapable of running a government.

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Posted by retrorv on 03/24/2017 at 1:33 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

Vote her out. She's not working for this state or her constituents.

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Posted by Matt Hydeman on 03/24/2017 at 1:20 PM
Posted by Things are Getting Stranger in the Eye of This Beholder. on 03/24/2017 at 12:22 PM

Re: “"Martha McSally Is Not Answering"

I'm sorry but I am confused.

Are we trying to control health care costs, or health care insurance costs? What have the doctors and the drug companies done to help?

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Posted by Don Stetson on 03/24/2017 at 12:19 PM

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