The fact is that this creep shot many and killed some. Now, in my opinion, he has forfeited his place in our society and should be given the death penalty as soon as possible. Just give him a lethal injection like how Timmothy McVey received and that is that. Do not waste our tax dollars trying to fix this creep's demented mind. There is enough government waste already as it is, we should not waste money on this creep or any other mass murderers currently in jail. Period. I'm sorry if some of you Left-wing Libs might think that capital punishment is too harsh, but this creep deserves nothing less! Terminate him ASAP.
"Anyone who has lived on planet earth the last 10 years knows that the statement in question is fact based."
Really! Why? Because YOU say it is fact-based or Serraglio presents it as such.
Political discussions have been, and always will be, OPINION-based and the "facts" will be those that fit into the banner of supporting the chosen position of the person or group making the argument of the day.
Let's see. There's the birthers and Christian deniers (Obama), there's folks claiming headless bodies in the desert anchor babies (Mexicans), and the folks claiming a houses of worship for Muslims are terrorist training camps (Park 51, Murfreesboro, TN, Temecula Valley, CA, Sheboygan, Wis., Oshkosh, Wis.). Kinda fact based.
I would like to add to this commentary. I agree that the issues raised as possible causes for this tragedy are periperal at best, however, one issue, mental health is not listed, which in fact is a contributor in this case. The common enemy, if we want to call it that, is the lack of the understand of what mental illness is or isn't. We need to quit ignoring the fact that mental illness does exist and that it can happen to anyone. The STIGMA surrounding mental illness is one of the most important and overlooked roadblock to minimizing the risk of future incidents such as this one. The surrounding dialog about the possible causes give pause for thought about how what we say and do effectively feeds the dark thoughts of those who are mentally unstable. The more we feed the dark thoughts in these individual the the more they believe their twisted thinking. We essentially indirectly validate it. So my suggesting is that we need to be mindful of this fact when we choose to put something out there for the public to digest. I guess you could say that all of us are a little bit quilty of being naive about the impact some of these choices can have. I for one believe that just because we are free to do something does not make it ethically or morally healthy. The best chance we have to minimize this happening again is to address the core issue which is mental illness. Mental illness like cancer can be treated and some folks go into remission and sometimes, like cancer, it is fatal. Dawn Harward, Director, Suicide Survivors.info
Anyone who has lived on planet earth the last 10 years knows that the statement in question is fact based.
"Too often lately, our public conversations are not based in fact and do not take place in the context of a common goal of making our society healthier. Instead, much of what passes for public debate consists of calculated lies spread by powerful and wealthy interests for the purpose of manipulating the masses, or hysterical nonsense posted anonymously on comment threads that have come to be dominated by fear-mongering trolls."
two paragraphs later.......
"In the next two years, the forces of distortion and manipulation will spend billions of dollars in an effort to fool us into voting against the public interest and in favor of their narrow, self-serving agenda. And we'll hear all sorts of hateful nonsense about Obama, Mexicans, Muslims and any other bogeymen who can effectively be deployed to distract us from an honest debate of the critical issues at hand."
Is this an example of "fact-based" or "fear-mongering"?
AMEN & BRAVO - this is the best commentary I've seen since this whole tragedy occurred. Thank you for this beam of clarity.
Amen. Most Americans would give anything to have a member of congress as decent and uncorrupted as Gabby Gifffords. The unprincipled bastards that reviled her during the campaign should now just keep their mouths shut and reflect upon the lack of integrity that festers within them.
YesSiree Bob and Vic in Tucson,
How 'bout y'all get back to us when you work up the conviction and courage to attach your name to your opinion, that way we will know that it actually means something and should be taken seriously; I mean the faulty logic, racsism, and poor grammar notwithstanding; of course.
Robert Alexander Dumas
Well earned sterotypes are...well earned.
Your "historical observation" is influenced by no small amount of racism, I think.
So sorry, I reread your article looking for a shred of shrewdness and noticed you did miss an important historical observation, however.
Where the English colonized there was prosperity. Where ever the Spanish went there was poverty. I'm only generalizing the point so 'The Breed' can catch on.
I feel your pain. While I agree that all countries have their atrocities, I don't believe that to be an excuse for our own. We were supposed to be different. Excellence, and holding one's self to higher standards is just beyond many now. Mediocrity is what replaces it.
The comments here tell me that those ideals were betrayed long ago. "I got mine, you get yours". Yeah, right.
When it finally does end for us (and it will, because all things end eventually), it will probably be no more than we deserve. Though I was kinda hoping to make it at least as long as the Egyptians, or even the Romans.
There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America.
After serving in the Navy for twenty years, and traveling the world-over a few times, I cannot help but say we are fortunate to live here in the USA. By no means is that an assertion that America is perfect or even near perfect. However, with any of our faults gathered and counted, we are still a nation worthy of the admiration we so often receive. One of our presidents quipped that there is nothing wrong with the US that cannot be righted by the ingenuity and talents of Americans (paraphrased). I believe that is true! Do your part to make a positive difference in the lives of the people in your community. Bit by bit, you will experience the nation Jimmy Carter referred to as being built upon the best human rights principles. The US is quite all right!
I'm sure these are 'faux-news' inductees---in denial, with jaded unwillingness to believe that the 'imperial'?-Nation could possibly do anything wrong...This is NOT an Imperial nation-I don't believe that was the goal. I'm sure your Mantra is 'Only We can do unto others-as long as we do it to them first' / Perish the thought anyone or Nation should resist or Defend itself-or at the very worst 'Hold up a Looking-Glass' so that we may see the 'Dorian' Image We have created but are too Horrified to Acknowledge...Nation of Hypocrites in Denial!
I'm with Vic in Tucson. Heck, I will even chip in for the tickets!
The world is full of conquered countries and Mexico is one of them. Like the Native Americans, if they hadn't been so busy fighting amongst themselves at the time, things MIGHT have been different. EVERYBODY GOT THAT?
*yawn* bore *yawn*
There is only room for one Imperialist at a time and I just thank that dude God that it's America in my lifetime.
You liberal dumbasses tear me up. TX Jesse maybe you should go with Randy.
Thanks for the reality check, Randy Serraglio.
You article is well written and to the point.
The corrupt corporate goons have bought our politicians and stolen our country and it goes right over the head of dim bulbs such as Vic in Tucson. America operates as an evil empire: Corruption, massive theft, injustice, lies, invading other countries and supporting thugs in other countries to keep our criminal wars going.
As you said, empires die. More and more people are seeing that the America we were taught to believe in no longer exists.
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