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Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

Just like the President you have a knee jerk reaction. You could have waited for one or two facts to come out. Was he medicated for ADHD as many of the past killers were? Did he acquire these guns legally before he was insane?

And now the best of all...he singled out Christians to kill them...and he was foreign born and supported the IRA.

We NEED tougher immigration laws. We must protect the Christians amongst us.

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Posted by Roger Jensen on 10/03/2015 at 7:57 PM

Re: “Diane Douglas' "AZ Kids Can't Afford To Wait" Plan

I have read every word of Douglas's report. About 75% of it is good. She is still obsessed to an irrational degree with Common Core. It seems her obsession has nothing to do with any actual standard, but rather, the general insanity of some conspiracy theory about them. One thing I did not see was more accountability for charter schools, actually privately run schools getting public tax dollars. This is one big myth, that charters are public. Until they get the general public to elect their boards and are accountable to the extent district schools are they SHOULD NOT be called "public". This is a big lie the charter industry nationwide have created. Her semantics on ethnic studies are an entertainment in themselves, echoing the insane law on "driving people apart." God forbid we have any realistic look at historical assault on minority groups, that don't mouth "exceptionalism". (The Frank Burns school of patriotism). Her stance on testing, CTE, AND STEM are not bad. She heard loud and clear the problem with the State budget and JTEDS. (Right Wayne P.!) But god forbid our kids go to college to expand their general knowledge, or critical thinking skills, too, without an absolute employment related outcome. We cannot always be concerned about absolute utilitarian purposes for education. I give her credit for listening and restating many of the comment during the listening tours. And I have seen her huddled with Sanchez at ASBA events so that ain't bad, better than Horne and Huppster suing. However with her inept political skills, she has essentially no influence on the governor, legislature, the State Board, local districts, or really anyone actually implementing any ideas.

Posted by Frances Perkins on 10/03/2015 at 7:27 PM

Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

A citizen unarmed is a subject, subjected to oppression by those in power with decades long of a piss poor track record in protecting our inherent liberties. The govt in any form cannot be trusted once this line has been crossed and I nor millions of others in this nation will take that chance. Again govt cannot and should not be blindly trusted. Look at how those cops are treating all the students in the UCC shooting, it's disgusting how these Rambo wannabes gear up in camo, plate carriers and ARs so they can get their rocks off in practicing their police state maneuvers. To the cops, we're all suspects, no mental though power required.

Maybe when you start disarming and hold dirty cops and politicians truly accountable (prison) then maybe I'd consider more laws. Right now, your tired PC rhetoric about "common sense" gun laws are apt to enslave us all. Your hysteria doesn't trump my right to self defense.

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Posted by jonconnor on 10/03/2015 at 6:18 PM

Re: “UA Exhibit Looks Back at When Tucson Public Schools Banned Middle East Studies

Simply, Francis Saitta. It is what it is. Israel will never again cease to exist, because it is not only already the will of many governments, peoples and modern systems, but it is also already the will of whatever higher power you may choose to accept. History has happened. The clock will never turn back. To subscribe to the destruction of Israel as a solution to Arab dysfunction in the ME is a dangerous pathological delusion. Israel is constantly sorting out their own "theocracy" because it is a highly successful, fluidly capitalist, functioning democracy. You apparently consider all citizens in Israel to be radical Zionists and ultra-Orthodox. Accept history as it is and not as you prefer. Give hatred a rest.

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Posted by JL Curry on 10/03/2015 at 5:05 PM

Re: “UA Exhibit Looks Back at When Tucson Public Schools Banned Middle East Studies

JL Curry: Given the History of the creation of this Jewish Theocracy in Palestine, and the concomitant consequences to our National Security, would you be so kind as to explain why "Israel has the right to exist"?

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Posted by Francis Saitta on 10/03/2015 at 12:12 PM

Re: “Zona Politics: City Council Debate Between Councilwoman Shirley Scott and GOP Challenger Margaret Burkholder

Obviously, the person above never owned a business in the city, it's awful to work with and the cronyism that goes on downtown. Scott is like many other politicians, they talk good but, the city is still in the same shape it was when she started. There is a reason people want term limits, Scott fits the bill. If she has done so well, why are my taxes constantly going up without any improvements? Finally, the real problem is the cost of the city's retirement system, it's going to bankrupt the city if it remains on track, but no one wants to make any changes, why?

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Posted by Jim Kelly on 10/03/2015 at 11:42 AM

Re: “UA Exhibit Looks Back at When Tucson Public Schools Banned Middle East Studies

TMI screed above - like fingernails on an old chalkboard. Nowadays there is really only one question for "the nations" to seriously regard: does Israel has the right to exist at all? Some still do not think so. They are wrong.

Posted by JL Curry on 10/03/2015 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Diane Douglas' "AZ Kids Can't Afford To Wait" Plan

Mr. Kelly, please do not continue to perpetuate the myth that there is such a thing as teacher "tenure" in our K-12 schools. That is a lingering falsehood that public school educators should debunk. Yes, a teacher moves to continuing (as opposed to probationary) status after three full years in the classroom, but even a veteran teacher can be removed for professional incompetence if the administrator who evaluates them follows the proper procedures and does THEIR job. Moreover, most teacher association members know who the poor teachers are in their ranks and do not work to prevent that process from going forward. Removing a teacher for unprofessional conduct is even easier than having them ousted for professional incompetence.

Those who have their own agendas for education in this country have continually put forth this legend that there are untold numbers of lousy teachers who are somehow protected from accountability by "tenure." They pick isolated anecdotes where poor teachers have stayed in place, or have been moved around within schools in their districts, to make it appear that this is a widespread problem. It isn't...and those of us who serve as administrators or teachers in our public schools should do all we can to make it clear that this simply isn't happening. Mr. Kelly and others who do believe this myth should talk to any veteran public school educator to find out the real truth, rather than furthering a lie that does nothing more than discredit the thousands of hardworking and creative teachers in Arizona.

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Posted by Don't Believe The Hype! on 10/03/2015 at 10:49 AM

Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

Hatred is the real problem. The gun is simply the current tool chosen to carry out their hatred. How many did Tim Mc Veigh kill in OK City without a gun?

What is driving this hatred? Politics and constant blaming of opposition of thought?

Take a look at responses right here in this on line publication. Every day posters spew hate towards each other.

...and then some act on it. Don't be the problem. Start acting like the solution.

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Posted by Rat T on 10/03/2015 at 7:05 AM

Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

The press reports so far have indicated that the killer systematically sought out and murdered Christians. When he asked the victims if they were Christians, those who said yes were shot in the head. Those who did not were not given immediately fatal wounds. Many (if not all) survived. The big story here is the anti-Christian hate-filled nature of this crime. An even bigger story is the incredible bravery of those victims -- martyrs, actually -- who refused to deny their faith and died for it.

Go ahead and focus on the gun(s), David. Wear it as a badge of honor if you must. But you're missing the bigger story and the even bigger problem.

Blessings and peace to those who died and to their families who mourn them.

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Posted by Sun Dried Curmudgeon on 10/03/2015 at 6:03 AM

Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

Hard to believe Tucson 'progressives' would be upset over this. After all, it was Christians that were executed.

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Posted by What, Again on 10/03/2015 at 5:27 AM

Re: “Barrio Cuisine Closes in Downtown Tucson

Ok I'll bite... How are the mayor and council responsible for this place's failure, Jim Kelly?

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Posted by Kim Jelly on 10/02/2015 at 11:59 PM

Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

Sorry, but the cat is long out out of the bag. The number of privately owned guns in the US (over 300 million) exceeds our population. No new law will remove the stockpile of weapons that have been stolen, sold on the black market, and used daily to murder and maim. Each new massacre (now averaging one every two weeks) prompts predictable outrage followed by a polite amnesia and then - nothing. We are entering an election year so any thoughts of new profiles in courage - politicians standing up to the NRA - are fanciful at best.

This national breast beating after each mass killing is reactive and blind to the real problem the US has with gun violence. Victims of these horrible and tragic shootings are a tiny percentage of those killed and maimed EVERY DAY in this country. Let's put it in perspective: last MONTH in Chicago (a city with tough gun laws) 6 times as many people were shot to death and 20 times as many were wounded compared with yesterday's carnage in Oregon. Take a look at the rest of the stats for Chicago in the aptly named

The daily slaughter in our cities goes on unabated and under reported with the weapons used typically stolen and/or purchased on the black market. Why is this not newsworthy? This is where the real action is.

When the latest mass slaughter "we need new laws" card is played, the obvious retort from the gun rights advocates is "you're talking about a mental health issue." And they are right when you argue for new gun restriction laws on these events. Think of Columbine, Virginia State, Tucson (twice), Sandy Hook, Aurora and then think of each of the perpetrators. All, each one, a mentally ill young man.

Yesterday, a beautiful five month old baby girl was killed in Cleveland in a gang related drive by shooting. This story appeared in a side bar to the Oregon shootings, otherwise, you would never have heard about it. Weeping and wailing at the sight of the tip of the iceberg is cathartic but this country has a problem with guns and crime that is far broader and deeper, lying just below the surface.

A month from now we will be agonizing over the deaths of more folks shot to death by a crazed gunman, an alienated young man with known mental health problems, murders that could have been prevented by expanding the disqualifiers to gun ownership to include the mentally ill and any immediate family members they share a domicile with. But those 10, 20, or 30 deaths will pale in comparison to the daily body counts in Chicago, LA and New Orleans. And that outrageous, unreported carnage requires a different, far more draconian set of gun laws than the mass killing that make the headlines and are deemed more worthy of commentary.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 10/02/2015 at 10:09 PM

Re: “Zona Politics: City Council Debate Between Councilwoman Shirley Scott and GOP Challenger Margaret Burkholder

I'm looking for the new ideas that Ms. Burkholder has proposed. What are they? Hire more police officers? Heard that for years. Against studying pretty much anything and just go on gut feeling.
Get more businesses? We've been working on that for 50 years. Doesn't know how roads are funded or what has been spent on which projects. Says we need leadership, new, of course, but can't give examples of what she would do that isn't already being done, and in no way acknowledges the impact of the Legislative decisions made by the Gov. and the Leaders of her party on the available funds to do anything. Not ready for prime time. Shirley Scott has delivered the goods for 20 years and knows the routes and methods by which they can be planned, promoted, and delivered.

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Posted by gcb1 on 10/02/2015 at 10:07 PM

Re: “Quick Bites: LIQUID SMOKE

How many can afford a $75 dinner, just to say, "I did it."

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Posted by Jim Kelly on 10/02/2015 at 8:27 PM

Re: “Diane Douglas' "AZ Kids Can't Afford To Wait" Plan

How about discontinuing tenure for teachers so they can get rid of the bad ones. Where's the $400 million coming from? Forgiving student loans, and no state taxes on incomes below $70K. Who's picking up the tab Diane? How about reducing Hart's salary?

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Posted by Jim Kelly on 10/02/2015 at 8:25 PM

Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

A starting place would be LONG background checks, not 30 minute background checks. A long background check for all should take about 2 weeks and have all kind of mandatory checks. We also need to end private sales.

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Posted by Logical Thinker on 10/02/2015 at 6:13 PM

Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

Just the premise that liberals, specifically the ultra radical Obama can determine the standard for 'common sense' is absurd.

The distaste for the constitution by the left is disgusting.

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Posted by What, Again on 10/02/2015 at 5:31 PM

Re: “Barrio Cuisine Closes in Downtown Tucson

Another success story for the mayor and city council.

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Posted by Jim Kelly on 10/02/2015 at 5:21 PM

Re: “Common Sense Gun Laws: Democrats and Responsible Republicans, If Not Now, When?

I wish I could say more laws would curb violence, but they won't. It's in their nature for some to be prone to violence. What would help is, if the media would stop making headlines with shooting deaths. They glorify the obscene for ratings. Unfortunately, the news people will do anything for a headline. Remember, the Press is free, if you own one.

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Posted by Jim Kelly on 10/02/2015 at 5:19 PM

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