Wouldn't conditions like arthritis and fibromyalgia already meet the definition of chronic pain and therefore be eligible?
Does anyone know of the most reputable medical marihuana clinics in Tucson that carry the Rick Simpson oil? We have been buying from earths healing but always worried about the regulation or lack their of. It definitely works as far as the pain relief However cancer especially the lung mets have progressed aggressively. Thank you for Any advice in advance
Diabetes? Weed gives people the munches and sugary snacks are high on that list!!
Just what are we talking about here with new ailments that could be added to the list. All of these would be moot and a superfluous ordeal of public time an monies. Why would anyone put an effort to promote and submit new proposals to AZDHS when the push is for Legalization and sweep Medical Marijuana under the rug such as MPP"S proposal.
Lets look at whom is to benefit from Legalization,
1-Law enforcement definitely has a good stake is seeing it passed. Lets look at our current Sheriff Dupnick it was just reported that in his administration he has 17 former deputies that had administrative jobs. These individuals retired from @ $140,000.00 job to collect $100,00.00 in retirement. Only to have their job previously held to a civil position and then rehire those retired back @ $100,000.00 salary with Benefits that bring annual compensation to $126,000.00. So MPP's proposal builds a new administrative position for retired police. Remember the Sheriffs department is a policing for profit ordeal. The Department even has former Sheriff Boykin on the payroll @ $90.000.00 and no one knows what he does.
2- Civil penalties instead of criminal prosecutions which basically says your guilty till proven innocent if you can afford it and charge interest on unpaid fines on civil actions Basically building a debtor prison of such just like the medieval times but it doesn't cost the king till you have something.
3- the lottery winners DISPENSARIES that now feel that they have a propriety ownership in the business of Marijuana. They feel as such they have enlisted a Washington Marijuana lobby Firm called "Medical Marijuana Policy" (MPP) They are hired by Law enforcement and the Arizona Dispensaries Assoc. (ADA) to lock in a market to where a few are allowed. Impose heavy criminal prosecutions for those that cant play putting a huge burden on the tax payer prosecute and incarcerate because they cant collect taxes and give them to the state. MPP will not reveal the donors odds are some of the civil forfeitures are going for that very thing.
4-MPP would have all individual rights of home and solace their in capitulate to any kind of local ordnance the right of business even to allow not to be able to smoke in your own home. ( Just yesterday the AZ appellate court the smell is not an illegal act and does not allow search ) Believe it or not the courts have been going in the Users mostly stifling the bureaucratic rule making.
Whom want to keep it illegal
1- Insurance companies, can you imagine the cost of actuary tables if some has Cannabinol's in their system is no longer proof of being impaired and payouts out cant be denied
2 Pharmaceuticals, don't want to compete on several medications I have cut my diabetes medication some out completely and the neuropathy Opiates prescribed are gone as well as some of the one being advertised on TV. So Just Diabetes alone is a 70 billion a year market that don't want it legal.
(I have not found a bud tender that has a clue or a dispensary fakes and frauds on ailments listed above if asked they go to the old standard SATIVA or INDICA I ask at a purple place they said yea they are there! I ask just up the road RE: what are you looking for? I just told you the ailment. RE; yea man
3- Employers, Bus Drivers, Pilots, police officers, correctional officers, Truck and equipment drivers, Air Traffic, Train crews, on and on and on. What is needed is not to show someone has used but that they are impaired and the Current Dispensaries wont help with that. and the Insurance rates then attributed with it.
I just tired of these superficial people willing to throw citizens under the buss make second class citizens of those that don't want to go their free concerts so they can party out their old stock and call it a community gift the gall REALLY!
Hopefully, as time goes on without the dire outcomes feared by legislators, the concept of "non-toxic" will sink in. There's no need to severely restrict or deny anyone the right to use a non-toxic herb just because they might enjoy it.
They are paid thugs. Had a patient to patient transfer seized, because I live less than 25 miles from a dispensary, I MUST use a dispensary. This is a drug task force and they don't know the law. And I am coming after them for a simple 4 grams. Seems trivial, but people need to know what these uniformed thugs are doing, don't even know the law. Though by 2811 they are prohibited from these actions.
" Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) and attorney Brian Vicente are two of the champions of the 2012 Amendment 64 (The Regulate Marijuana like Alcohol Act) which legalized and regulated the use and sale of recreational marijuana in Colorado."
Don't let this confuse anyone with MPP's proposed imitative they are in the progress in gaining signatures to put on the next general election in 2016. MPP is a public relations firm hired by individuals and corporations to do their biding.
Nothing in MPP's current initiative drive in Arizona is even close to Colorado's Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol. Don't be confused by similar names they are not the same. If Colorado's system is working like Alcohol why do they need a consumption initiative? This is not a race this needs to be acceptance.
Jeffery here is a clue; The Police and Correctional officers are the same UNION the FOP. They both share in the State Retirement system for law enforcement. They are no against MPP's version s this would give them revenues for the next 5 decades for sure. Just whom do you thnk MPP's oard will be made up of ???? all these retired bureaucrats civil servants that want to make a whole new state run DEA. Big Pharma don't care about state laws on VooDoo MMj as it is being implemented now. They will be looking and when they come out it will all be under FDA guidelines and insurance subsidized leaving the local storefront looking for Government for what?
Think about LEGALIZATION THINK IS IT REALLY LEGALIZATION?
This is the reason we don't need 2 different agencies to compete with each other . The Liquor Board following enforcement of " No Smoking " in Bar laws. Then to have a Marijuana Control Board Issue licenses to do that very thing community smoke areas just minus Alcohol?
This will eventually All Marijuana being a concentrate or a edible. Reasoning will be second hand smoke some areas of the country don't allow people to smoke tobacco in or outside the homes or natural open settings
. I quit smoking cigarettes15 years ago thanks to we had the Ecigarette vaps were still a decade off. I for one don't want to see the proliferation of concentrates oils or shatter to replace simply plain plant material. This is the aim and aspirations in my opinion of the Arizona Dispensaries Association (ADA)
It is my firm belief that these dispensary agents are working diligently for that very authority of that enjoyed by the Liquor Control Board. The ADA and it's agents will control agriculture of hemp as an industrial commodity. ADA wants to control whom can grow and who cant but as well license Hydro shops with just the propensity of use. This alone would stop a huge part of Intrastate and Interstate commerce you couldn't buy a cloning pot on Amazon but for it to be a civil fine collected by the ADA cronies. ADA want to collect tax monies be given the entitlements of governments without any of the responsibilities and spend them without oversight of the People and the State of Arizona.
Be very aware of these Dispensaries why does the medical user need to pay for instate grown product. Grown in bad business models, extremely utility resource dependent carbon emitting personal resource taking special card punching, Happy Hour, first time patient marketing.
I have a better Idea State run wholesale distribution collective agency. Where tax collection and testing is
applied on growing can be done easily and efficient. Tax will be collected at POS to a retailer either a home care giver or storefront. All product will be held to AZ State testing standards and tested for assurance and quality. that is also why people are paying a tax to have some protections mandated by law in regard to consumables. No need for more loss of civility defining tale of a Bloated Goat rips of the ADA group..
Could you not rent some fencing to control access to an outdoor "medicated area" that wouldn't violate the terms of the liquor license?
I received a card in the mail inviting me to the 710 celebration in Marana. I didn't know it was obfuscated of the international 410 struggle and accomplishments.
I went to this place as it was changing it's name thought that was the reason for the celebration. I drive by it daily as I do others just to keep on driving. This time I went to see if anything had changed as it's been close to 3 years since I first entered the establishment.
Went in gave my card went to the Weed Tender stated I have MS and am on a disability what do you have that can help me today. So the Bud Guy starts Indica and Sativa and the difference between them. At this stage of the game it is akin to a fast order personal explaining to a customer the difference of ICE in your drink and no Ice. I wanted to know what they had available to help my ailment different terpenes and hybrids. It was like a deer in the headlights he didn't have a clue and was so nice about it too. I then asked do you grow your own? The Manager said yes we just started a place in PHX. I ask why PHX why not grow local invest in Tucson. BS story on Zoning as I have been involved in construction and Tenant build outs for over 40 years. Yea I don't think I will be celebrating on 710 as I don't see a DAMM thing that helps the citizens patients or economy of Tucson.
It appears the marketers are out in force. MMJ was brought in before all the concentrates the vaps the shatter the Hash. Anywhere in the above did you read about helping the populace on ailments? I for one will not be supporting 710 with any endorsement 410 has a history of accomplishment of MMJ. This guy Aari don't need to change a date, he needs to change his name to charlatan. These people are behind the MMP's proposal will try to take a market not overseen but by rules they want to write.
Just a question just how many votes do you think MMP's are going to get in these BS concerts while hiding under the term non-profit. If Mr. Aari's is under the opinion that they can get a bunch of stoners at a concert to swing a vote for legalization while dismantling MMJ we will see you the first Tuesday of 11/2016.
Officialdom has still not accepted the concept that cannabis is non-toxic and a lot less harmful than alcohol or tobacco. It's not surprising that liquor license rules still reflect that bias.
Thank you! Very informative and very well-written.
It needs to be made clear that the money for opposition to legalization of marijuana in Arizona, and throughout the nation, comes from the "Big Five", to wit:
1. Big Pharma;
2. Private prison corporations;
3. The beer, wine and liquor industry;
4. Police unions; and
5. Prison guard unions.
We should all look closely at the current dispensaries and their business model. Is this the kind of Tax & Grab industry we are trying to fund primary education?
Do we Need another police & license agency separate from the rest autonomous from judicial oversight. Stops all Hydroponics stores, neighborhood smoke shops. So thinking something bought on internet that is sold in another state like say a light or nutrients will and can be punishable under this new Marijuana Control Board.
Be very careful those that wave the flag of I just want t help you. Spend all the time in self promotion on their caring thoughtful endeavors. They don't want to help you they want to help themselves to you. And take accolades for the quality of screwing.
The MPP bill being pushed forward in Arizona is not just bad for marijuana smokers, it's bad for all of Arizona. I am a cannabis user and avid supporter of medical marijuana rights. Under no circumstances do I want to see a bill like this passed in our state. Even if it was the last legalization bill on earth. First of all, lets talk criminal penalties. In the MPP bill to possess over 1 oz of marijuana will put you into the criminal felony bracket. This sets up countless potential recreational cannabis users for a whole lot of trouble. How are you pushing a "legalization" bill with felony penalties attached? What message are you sending? Here people we freed the weed now smoke up! It sounds like a bait and trap to anyone willing to take the risk. Trust me when I say there is no possible way the citizens of Arizona will hold to the 1 oz limit. They will have so many new criminals we wont have the jails to hold them all. This costs more for the tax payers, our taxes will be going into further expanding our prison for profit system in AZ that is fully supported by our Gov. We cannot do this to our state, to our citizens we just can't. The risk to reward ratio with the mpp bill is not worth dismantling our entire working medical marijuana program. Marijuana is first medicine, not a college kid party drug. To put medical marijuana patients in risk is criminal. There are thousands of sick and elderly people who need marijuana which is already in short supply or costs too much. The dispensary prices are already out of reach for a lot of people. The dispensaries we have in place now are already barely handling supply to the patients in the valley. Now we're going to let them sell it at an even higher price to everyone who want to party and light up once in a while? Really? That's what we fought so hard for in 2012? Patients are covered under the medical marijuana act for possession of more marijuana than is being offered by the MPP initiative. There is no reason to sacrifice the sick and hurting in order to make a few dispensary owners rich. The medicine they need is already being held for ransom. We need to open this to a free fair market to drive prices down and bring in more cannabis and more competition into the valley. The MPP initiative 100% prevents that from happening. I prayyyyyy the AZFMR bill does get on the ballot. I am confident if it does the citizens of this state (cannabis users or not) will not put cannabis users in jail any longer for this plant. The AZFMR bill makes all marijuana violations petty offenses to misdemeanors. The fines can be set high, people do go to jail for not paying fines you know. So eventually the habitual law breakers will get themselves caught up with the jail system. As citizens of this state I ask you to not support this bill under any circumstances. It also puts any business that sells marijuana accessories, like pipes and bongs etc., under control of their proposed marijuana board. That means hundreds of smoke shots and glass shops around the valley will be subject to the whim of these people. They will find themselves under very restrictive and damaging regulations very quickly. The MPP bill sounds more like an gestpo bill then anything. Really go read it. You will be in shock. I supported marijuana legalization in AZ until I saw what their idea of that was. the MPP bill is not a legalization bill, it just reorganizes the criminal penalties, prevents small business expansions in the areas of smoke or liquor shops who may also want to sell recreational cannabis, limits new job growth in our state, opens the door for potentially thousands of more people having their lives ruined over a bag of weed, allows small possession, and eventual personal home growing of marijuana, but not until 2018!! yes that's right the MPP and their chronies say they are in support of home personal growing but then decide out the gate to put a moratorium on it? Why? What is the purpose of that? They have been quoted over and over as saying they want to protect the dispensary owner investments. So basically the MPP is an undercover bailout and protection bill for dispensary owner and investors who made bad decisions the last time around, and are trying to recoup for their idiotic decisions in 2012 that has put them into this pickle. Please Please Please do your research. Be careful what you wish for! That bill is not legalization and is criminal penalties in recreational marijuana clothing. Our kids will suffer for many years to come if that communist type bill passes here. It will also set a terrible precedent for how AZ handles new forms of adult industries. Their bill lies from the very start. They are in no way "Regulating Marijuana like Alcohol," not even close.
Let's take a time to ask what the objective here with MPP's and AMR's proposed initiatives. both are about establishment of a Marijuana business and it's legitimacy. Both are about establishment of a Board that doesn't even in it's proposal resemble the Alcohol control board function duties or authority.
No where does the Alcohol control Board in Arizona give monies to education, welfare programs as seen fit by it's director and board. I don't believe the board limits micro brewery's markets or it's neighborhood competition. I don't see the Alcohol Board having all Alcohol consumption under it's control leaving the Medical based uses unto the medical field and health services.. MPP's want to control all Industrial Hemp license and uses because of the possibility to manipulate the Delta 9 into viable psycho active uses.
I was of the understanding that the reason the first MMJ laws were passed was out of compassion for those that could be helped by the plant. The Cancer the MS the neurological and many more. I believe the Citizen's in Arizona that waivered on voting for it did so out of compassion. I don't think the core of the Arizona was voting for legalization but for Standards of testing and marketing controls. easy access for the afflicted to acquire without fear or retribution. What we seen is a Lottery system that rewards bad business models I am sure if the Alcohol control Board only allowed a few distilleries/brewery's Enforced no home brewing with civil and criminal penalties. A beer would be $8.00 @ Happy Hour and shots would be $12.00 and only local produced product available.
Let's ask ourselves do we need a Marijuana Control Board. A Board that wants to set up government as it sees fit the only way to change it is by voter referendum ? This is a slippery slope for sure I don't think any of it is in the Citizens or the States bests interests. Just a select few
Bradson, Truth in advertising has NEVER been the hallmark of political campaigns.
MPP is backed by the medical marijuana growers and distributors, who, after shelling out big dollars for their licenses and setups, want to keep the virtual monopoly on supply and distribution, in order to protect their investment.
"Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol "
It would be nice if the campaign was more accurately named. It's actually about regulating marijuana much more strictly than alcohol or tobacco. Adults can buy all the beer, wine and cigarettes they want at any corner market at rational prices even though those products are more harmful to users than cannabis.
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