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Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

Already anticipating the hysterical whining you ignorant, racist, cowards will throw up after Trump gets his ass handed to him in November. If he's man enough to stay in that long. Sounds like he's already groping for the escape hatch door. You threw your lot in with a huckster who wanted to elevate his brand, not run the country. Has that dawned on any of you yet?

31 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by Peabo on 08/11/2016 at 10:02 AM

Re: “"Have You No Sense of Decency?" Part 2: Decency Edition

Trump can't fool all the people all the time, but he has been proving that he can fool some people all the time, every day, for over a year now.

7 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Thinking_Allowed on 08/11/2016 at 9:56 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

This might help you remember:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/caught-video-black-lives-matter-leader-calls-running-shooting-police/

http://universalfreepress.com/2015/blacklivesmatter-reveal-chilling-plan-its-open-season-for-killing-cops-and-crackers/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437694/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence

http://hypeline.org/minutes-after-dallas-shooting-blm-radicals-call-for-death-of-cops-of-twitter/

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20160711-blacklivesmatter-kills-cops-fort-worth-police-group-claims-in-viral-post.ece

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/black-lives-matter-radio-host-calls-race-war-cop-killing

11 likes, 28 dislikes
Posted by Larry McNeil on 08/11/2016 at 9:46 AM

Re: “BASIS Schools: On Beyond Charters

I think you folks are confusing the fact that public schools now answer to no one. maybe that would be a good place to start. Looks like the elephant in the room to me.

3 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Marilyn Tucson on 08/11/2016 at 9:30 AM

Re: “BASIS Schools: On Beyond Charters

Taxpayers in Arizona should not care one iota if the various BASIS entities run private schools--with no public money. But when they receive taxpayer money all should be revealed. By the way charter schools ARE NOT PUBLIC SCHOOLS. They are privately operated schools receiving public money. Until they answer to the public taxpayers like REAL public schools, they are not public schools. The taxpayer has no say in who runs all the BASIS schools but they are sure on the public dime. There are plenty of critics on here about TUSD, but at least you can criticize them, vote for their candidates, examine their books, and get your questions answered, even if you don't like the answers. You can't do that with BASIS or any charters.

11 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by Frances Perkins on 08/11/2016 at 8:45 AM

Re: “BASIS Schools: On Beyond Charters

Calling Basis and asking question doesn't usually yield answers. Try it some time.

I'm not a fan of Safier's commentary on some topics (TUSD being the most notable example of an area where his "coverage" has been questionable at best), but I'm a little puzzled by the comment stream responses to this piece.

Whether or not a school receiving and applying public funds makes the operations of its governance and how it applies public funds transparent is an important issue. To have parent companies of schools receiving and applying tax dollars in Arizona filing parent company incorporations in Delaware -- and David has linked a reputable source that confirms that Delaware is indeed a state where laws do not favor public disclosure -- is a relevant fact, worth reporting.

It would be helpful to revisit the set of ideas associated with PUBLIC institutions and then do two things:
1) compare the actual operational practices of local school systems like TUSD to these ideas to see if they are operating as public institutions are legally required to do
2) compare BOTh the deficient legal requirements and the actual operational practices of school systems like BASIS to these ideas to see if either the legal framing or actual operations of corporate charter entities using public tax dollars meet public institution standards.

If we don't do BOTH of these things, we may end up losing the protections public institutions are supposed to provide which ensure PROPER USE of the tax funds appropriated to support their operation. In the former case we risk losing these protections through negligence and failures of oversight, in the latter case through deliberate legislative undermining of the foundations on which public institutions should be built.

14 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by "Public" used to mean 100% transparent. on 08/11/2016 at 8:16 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

There was NO suggestion of violence, except in the warped minds of certain commentators, and Democratic operatives, who tried to make sure that that is what the narrative is.

9 likes, 39 dislikes
Posted by lc69hunter on 08/11/2016 at 7:54 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

No harm. No foul. Secret Service has determined that elements of the law have not been met to arrest Trump, or he would have been already.

No "intent" to defame and or threaten. Merely, a statement misunderstood by those who are having difficulties with knowing he might win this election. Poor Hillary conspirators.

8 likes, 36 dislikes
Posted by Rocky56 on 08/11/2016 at 7:29 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

Excuse me David W., I'm calling BS on you. Can you please quote exactly what Hillary said in that youtube video that has anything to do with calling for Obama's assassination? Same old right wing crap. The problem is no one challenges DT's constant BS and then it gets taken as fact.

33 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by RobG on 08/11/2016 at 7:28 AM

Re: “BASIS Schools: On Beyond Charters

A reporter's job is to find more sources/data/explanations so that they aren't out of their depth in reporting or issuing opinions. Is anyone else out there asking these questions? Did he call Basis and ask them?

5 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by LBaker on 08/11/2016 at 7:22 AM

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Posted by John Carlson on 08/11/2016 at 7:01 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

Well, the comments trying to tar Obama are hilarious with their irrelevance. And BLM never called for anyone to kill police. Quite the opposite.
I agree with Gabby, these veiled calls for violence are disgusting. Whether we're talking about the targets over Gabby's face, or Donald's call for "2nd Amendment people" to "do something",or the thinly veiled calls for violence against abortion providers. Violence has no place in American politics.

42 likes, 8 dislikes
Posted by bslap on 08/11/2016 at 6:36 AM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

Shut up Gabby. You have nothing meaningful to say

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Posted by BobV on 08/11/2016 at 5:19 AM

Re: “BASIS Schools: On Beyond Charters

Since Basis is an educational institution, how are they doing in the primary mission of educating ? Corporate organization strategies are often done to minimize taxes, enhance compensation, handle regulations, separate profitable from " investment" divisions etc. It tends to be a means to an end...fulfilling the mission . So I guess the real question does Basis educate and do the folks footing the bill ( tax payers, parents, contributors) think they are getting good value for the money ? And most importantly, is it better than the next best alternative ?

6 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by bsinn on 08/11/2016 at 5:19 AM

Re: “BASIS Schools: On Beyond Charters

"At this point, I admit, I'm entering territory where I'm completely out of my depth"
"Let me repeat once again, I'm out of my depth here."
"Is any of this BASIS incorporation information significant? I don't know."

Well, at least one thing is clear....ignorance of a topic (business law in this case) should never stand in the way of commenting on it.

Thanks again Captain Obvious.

12 likes, 8 dislikes
Posted by Rick Spanier on 08/10/2016 at 10:34 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

The civility train left the station just about the time the crazy train arrived in the 2016 presidential race. Besides, the media continues to ignore the rule established by Ronald Reagan that there is no bad press as long as you keep receiving free coverage. Donald Trump will keep saying and doing what has taken him this far and the media and Clinton camp will continue to be aghast at his behavior all the way to the November election. After that, it’s anyone’s guess as to which liar will be elected – the bad comb-over or the pantsuit – two sides of the same wooden nickel.

10 likes, 25 dislikes
Posted by sgsmith on 08/10/2016 at 9:47 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

It looks like you have all forgotten when Hillary called for assassination of Obama in 2008. I had to use Democratic reasoning to apply the logic.

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaCEfA4U-GrM&h=2AQFTwb3v

9 likes, 43 dislikes
Posted by David W on 08/10/2016 at 8:57 PM

Re: “Gabby Giffords: "We Must Draw a Bright Red Line Between Political Speech and Suggestions of Violence"

Had anybody told her that BLM called for the killing of cops, and blacks have killed cops?

10 likes, 43 dislikes
Posted by Larry McNeil on 08/10/2016 at 7:59 PM

Re: “"Have You No Sense of Decency?" Part 2: Decency Edition

Safier ~

So you believe "Have you no sense of decency?" fits Trump?

Whenever I read one of your columns, I can only think of the phrase "You can't fix stupid."

7 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by Danehick Sux on 08/10/2016 at 7:59 PM

Re: “"Have You No Sense of Decency?" Part 2: Decency Edition

All of these top people are not the ones that the current Trump supporters are going to listen to. Needs to be a regular citizen who listens to the news, is high school educated and whatever the other demographics are. I think they missed the boat by skipping the convention and now are trying something else outside of the standard.

5 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by MaryE2 on 08/10/2016 at 7:49 PM

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