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Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

Last time an "establishment" candidate (Gore) was spurned in favor of a "pure" candidate (Nader) we got George W Bush. I think it's hilarious when people want to repeat that with Sanders. Be careful what you wish for.
Also find it hilarious that accepting "persons of color" and "english language learners" is so commonly accepted as undesirable that they have to spell out that unpleasant requirement for charter schools.
We wouldn't have the problem with English language learners if we just returned to historically normal levels of immigration. We have been importing 6 times the historic average with predictable problems of assimilation.

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Posted by bslap on 07/18/2016 at 9:08 AM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

Nothing will change until the population of Arizona stops CONSISTENTLY giving power to the ideology that screwed it up in the first place.

What do you all think.............................they've effed it up for the last 30 years BUT..if we re-elect them, they promise they'll fix it "This time?" Has the education system here made you all THAT stupid???

Guess that question will be answered in November.

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Posted by Bob Regan on 07/18/2016 at 8:47 AM

Re: “Zona Politics: Matt Heinz, Victoria Steele and Steve Christy Talk About Their 2016 Campaigns

As usual, Democratic votes will be based on hearts and minds and Republican votes will be based on hate and fear.

Hearts and minds will win!

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Posted by Bob Regan on 07/18/2016 at 8:37 AM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

The verdict is in on both Obama and his education legacy "Race to the Top" of which Common Core Standards were the tent pole. United States math scores went down for the first time ever from 2011 to 2015 and reading scores did not improve.

By comparison, Arizona had the highest combined math and reading gains from 2011 fourth grade to 2015 eighth grade. Our African Americans eighth graders rose to number one in the nation, our Hispanics rose from 35th to 11th and our white students rose to 6th.

Could the evidence be more stark about which approach works between centralized systems and decentralized systems? Monopolies versus free markets?

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Posted by on 07/18/2016 at 7:41 AM

Re: “Two Tucson Women Hold Rally for Law Enforcement

God bless our police. The President and the AG have responsibility for this. They worked to weaken protective equipment that was available to law enforcemebt, after Baltimore. The killers know this and are taking advantage of it. Dallas and now Baton Rouge are both discharged military, that fought for their country, only to come home and murder fellow citizens and police officers.

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Posted by Rat T on 07/17/2016 at 4:20 PM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

I didn't advocate cutting necessary services. Why can't you folks ever concede that there are things that are NOT necessary? Yours is an old trick. Politicians also use it well.

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Posted by Rat T on 07/17/2016 at 3:07 PM

Re: “TUSD Teacher Dustin Williams is Well on His Way to Make the Ballot for Pima County Superintendent of Schools

Who is this guy?
How long has he been in the classroom and really fought hard in the trenches for public education?
I know Michael Gordy has fought for decades. If you want my vote, you must have had paid some serious dues...both on the picket line and in the classroom.

Posted by Ray Siqueiros on 07/17/2016 at 12:16 PM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

David: could you do a compare and contrast on exactly what Obama said about education before he became president and what the policies became once he was in office? I've seen clips of his campaign speeches that seem to indicate there was a significant difference between his campaign statements and what he was allowed to do once the interests backing him got him into office. How about an explanation of what happened with the federal education policy advisory committee after he assumed office? I've heard it described as an externally forced "sweep" over which he had little control.

What could your reason be for thinking that what we're seeing with Clinton will not be the same: a candidate being allowed to make statements that may sway voters, while there is no chance the candidate, if they become an elected official, will be allowed to implement those policy ideas?

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Posted by Did Obama implement his campaign ideas? on 07/17/2016 at 9:57 AM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

How much more should be cut, Rat T, from Arizona's Child Protective Services? Try talking to one of their overloaded caseworkers some time, or to a rep from one of the many underfunded, insufficiently professionalized, patched together non-profits that tries to fill one of the gaping holes in the sinking ship of child welfare in this state. "A thousand points of light" indeed. Rather: a dysfunctional, uncoordinated mess of voluntary "social enterprises" that provide "services" that are gravely insufficient in some areas and redundant and superfluous in others and, even where they may fill a real need, are often impaired in their effectiveness by being delivered by insufficiently qualified (and underpaid) staff.

Those who promote the further dismantling of the public sector should take a good look at what is actually happening to people in our community as critically important services are cut and cut and cut again rather than continuing to get information about how beneficial "starving the beast" is from the ALEC newsletter.

To return to the topic of this blog: Clinton-style collaboration with and capitulation to the forces behind privatization will not get this country where it needs to go. The time has come to let the Democrats know that if they continue putting people like Clinton forward, their candidate will lose in the general because they cannot unite the base behind her.

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Posted by A thousand points of light doesn't work. on 07/17/2016 at 8:16 AM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

Our population is more vulnerable from the socialist, globalist lies. They could learn a lot from Reagan era if they were not so lied to.

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Posted by David W on 07/17/2016 at 8:13 AM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

With a rebel yell they cried more, more, more. Start cutting wasteful programs and you already have more than you need. How much did Obama waste trying to overthrow Israel?

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Posted by Rat T on 07/17/2016 at 7:28 AM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

It's astounding the degree to which people who have to work for a living in this country have been persuaded that the country's problems are the fault of requiring the class that has, throughout history, always played the largest role in depressing wages to pay their fair share of the taxes that support infrastructure and services available to all. As Sanders noted during his campaign, his tax proposal involved returning the tax rates on the top brackets to what they had been during Dwight Eisenhower's administration, provoking the interesting thought that perhaps part of what it will take to "make America great again" is not building border walls and developing protectionist economic policies, but reverting to a tax code that is sane and fair and has worked very well in our country's past, before the Reagan era issued in such successful programs of self-serving neoliberal groupthink / brainwashing and the sad spectacle of the corporate class persuading millions of its employees to vote against their own economic best interests and to become vociferous defenders of their employers' right to avoid fair taxation in support of the common good and to refuse to distribute a fair share of the profits made from their labor back to them in the form of decent wages and benefits.

That our population is vulnerable to being misused and exploited in this way is, among other things, a testament to the conspicuous failure of our education system, which produces graduates without enough knowledge of history and economic theory to recognize shoddy and manipulative arguments when they encounter them in political campaigns.

David Safier: to expect Hillary Clinton to deliver effective push-back against the corporate agenda for education and taxation -- rather than to pay lip service to the need to resist the corporate agenda while she is trying to persuade former Sanders supporters to vote for her, which is what she is doing -- is naive at best (if you actually believe her, which seems doubtful) and manipulative at worst (if you know she won't follow through but you want people to vote for her because you don't want Trump to win the election).

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Posted by You're naive if you think Clinton can be a change agent. on 07/17/2016 at 7:11 AM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

These are the same education progressive democrats that eliminated trade skill classes, And then shipped out jobs overseas. Corporate tax rates was the mail in the coffin that accomplished the destruction of the American blue collar tradesman.

Obama and the Clintons call it globalization. It actually reads more like treason as they enrich themselves.

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Posted by Rat T on 07/16/2016 at 10:01 PM

Re: “Zona Politics: Matt Heinz, Victoria Steele and Steve Christy Talk About Their 2016 Campaigns We are winning.

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Posted by Andrew on 07/16/2016 at 3:38 PM

Re: “Local Media Pros Som and Krystin Lisaius Indicted on Drug-Related Child Abuse Charges

how come the news kept it quiet when they were arrested??? taking care of their own. 2 weeks later we hear about the indictment... crime fighting reporter .. JOKE!! your done Som , IT"S NATIONAL NEWS !!!!!!!!!!
change your name buddy , you are FUCKED ! Katrma is a bitch fucker and its spelled HA HA HA

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Posted by karma on 07/16/2016 at 9:08 AM

Re: “Zona Politics: Matt Heinz, Victoria Steele and Steve Christy Talk About Their 2016 Campaigns


Most Hispanic people do NOT support Chump. Your restaurant experience was not the norm.

I work with, I am friends with and I have family members (through marriage) who are Hispanic people. They are mostly Mexican-Americans, though some have heritage from other countries; some are true Mexican citizens who are living in the USA, working in the USA and possessing dual citizenship. I don't know ONE who doesn't think that Trump the Chump is a complete jackass.

Trump will be beaten.

What's unfortunate is that he will be beaten by Hillary, not a more deserving candidate.

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Posted by AZ/DC! on 07/16/2016 at 8:43 AM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

"Hillary Clinton's disclosure also shows that her husband made an undisclosed amount of money last year (2015) in consulting roles for two international interests — the Dubai-based Varkey GEMS Foundation and Laureate Education Inc., a global for-profit education firm. Bill Clinton ended his relationship with Laureate last year after earning $16.5 million as the operation's honorary chancellor, according to previously released Clinton tax records. Bill Clinton also has made more than $5.6 million in an honorary role for the GEMS foundation."…

$22,000,000 for doing squat. Oh, but the Democratic Party platform is so progressive and anti-for profit schools.

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Posted by Rick Spanier on 07/16/2016 at 8:08 AM

Re: “Zona Politics: Matt Heinz, Victoria Steele and Steve Christy Talk About Their 2016 Campaigns

Mr Heinz, I had dinner in a Mexican restaurant in San Diego, and they were all discussing why they as a large Hispanic family were supporting Trump for President. Race baiting by Dems no longer works as you will see when Hillary is beaten.

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Posted by Rat T on 07/15/2016 at 9:51 PM

Re: “In Defense of Marijuana: Parents of Medical Weed Patient in Prison Fear for His Life

UPDATE Kyle has a New Date July 25th 2016 8:30AM.
603L Executive Clemency Hearing.
Still need character reference letter"s.
Please send letter's to
Arizona Board of Executive Clemency
1645 West Jefferson, Suite 101
Phoenix, Arizona 85007
This is the address for the hearing too.

Posted by Marvin Catlin on 07/15/2016 at 7:56 PM

Re: “The Democratic Party's Progressive Education Platform

Rick Spanier, looks to me like you understand very well what we can expect from another Clinton administration. Too bad Sanders chose to endorse the financial industry's candidate rather than accepting Jill Stein's invitation to run on the Green Party ticket. A Sanders Green candidacy may have divided the "liberal" vote, but it would have been better than giving the "Democratic" party the impression that it can continue to shut out candidates who actually reflect the base's values and still succeed in getting the base to vote for establishment candidates that will not do what the country needs done.

For all his pretense of cynicism, Safier proves himself entirely willing, always, to swallow his own party's lines, locally and nationally, and he evidences astonishingly ill-advised optimism about party politicians' potential effectiveness in getting theory to translate into meaningful practice. When it comes to local politics, he propounds theories and endorses candidates and then pays absolutely no attention whatsoever to what they actually do in office. In national politics: see above.

I used to believe that Safier had a conscience that might, if provoked sufficiently, become active in what he wrote here and in whom he endorsed. These days, I've lost that belief. I've followed his commentary for three solid years and I've yet to see anything that would demonstrate that he's capable of anything other than soul-lesson promoting of business-as-usual party-line politics.

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Posted by But will theory yield practice? on 07/15/2016 at 7:10 PM

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