look, fruend. Nobody is ever going to get anywhere with that lumber on your shoulder. Start by admitting there is a JOINT problem in BOTH communities. I was a teacher in Yuma for 4 years grades 3-6. I KNOW the Mexican students, and I say Mexican, many were bussed La Otra. Don't try and razzle/dazzle me about 'giving a damn' I've seen Mexican mothers in school lobbys SCREAMING at principals and teachers b'cuz of infines/insignif items junior told mommy (sometimes true, othertimes not). The students often REFUSE to speak English, I had to call in the principal to TELL them solomente Inlise in le classe. It's the LAW. Then they listen. Now and then, I've taken guns off their kids, so, wise up, as Dr. Phil says, two sides to every story, and from you, we are NOT getting both sides.
Interesting...so this is no doubt one of the reasons that the United States Government will not secure the border...it may upset the government of Mexico if we secured the borders so their citizens couldn't come here and send money back to Mexico. Some of that money they send back, isn't even their money to send back...stealing from Americans. How do I know you may ask...several years ago our card number was stolen and some criminal tried to wire money out of our account...to guess where...MEXICO!
Yes, Yes!!!! Have to admit that it's nice to see someone finally admitting to the FACT that BILLIONS of American dollars got shipped out of country, and not used to bolster the local economies that they were earned in!!!
Another token just trotted out...and sounded off like Glenn Beck after a few shots of Tequila. Obama phones? They get to go without AZDLs and insurance while I have to have them? The police can do nothing?
When you sober up, do some research.
Not sure why I need to say this, but I am an old white woman who reads your column faithfully. I learn something every column & just wanted to thank you for writing it.
Mexican Mexican Mexican. That just irritates me to no end. I'm not a Mexican. I am Hispanic and an America. I am a citizen of the United States by birth here, praise God. A Mexican is from Mexico, its a nationality not a type of person. Just like Americans, Mexicans can be black or white or Hispanic or native.
Illegal Immigration, well that is simple, it is illegal and the illegal aliens know it and don't care. They think we are lazy bums that will sit on our rich rears and pay them to do what we wont. The bad thing is they are largely correct. My heart does not bleed for them as while there are many who do perish to the elements or who are extorted (which is sad and unjust and should be addressed), well they put themselves in that position. The number of Criminal Aliens in our country is astounding. No driver's license or insurance, but I have to have them. The Police can do nothing as they are now more protected than the California Condor was in its time.
Don't call me a Gabacho because I certainly am not. I am an American who works hard everyday to put food on the table. Let the bleeding hearts bleed, but when they have nothing left will they expect me to bleed for them? Being a citizen of our nation should mean something more than getting 3 Obama phones to use while you sit on your fat lazy rear collecting other peoples money.
To - 'my best friend is half Mexican'...Is that comment the same as 'I have (some) Black friends'??? What a Pendejo...First of All STOP With the Steve King pre-suppositions And MYTHS
AND My Question to this Token-lover...Which Half of Your Mexican-friend Appeals MOST to You???
No such word as "tamale." There is such a word as "tamales," but the singular is "tamal." Just sayin'.
You're right, it came off sounding really bad.
But you are so wrong, and I really hope you are not so much racist, but culturally deprived.
The only thing wrong with Mexicans is that they got such bad play in the movies when you were a child.. they were always the bad guys, and you were dumb enough to believe it.
This part of the country was their land.. and it was through genocide, just as with the Native American Indians, that it became the white eyes land.. how's that for a heritage for the "white man?"
Now, take your BS, expand your cultural ties, and get a real life, instead of the one where you really come off as the bigot you didn't intend to become, but were too ignorant to realize that you are.
Hapstone: Mexico doesn't deport their own citizens. They come here on their own to find work. They are not leaving their country at an exponential rate. In fact, illegal immigration to the U.S. across the border has slowed down considerably during the past decade, due to increased enforcement and a lack of work here. You do bring up an interesting point about exploitation of indigenous cultures that deserves to be discussed in any ethnic studies classes. Spaniards indeed conquered and exploited the locals. They also intermarried with the locals, creating beautiful brown people. Anglos conquered and exploited native people and then shoved them into big open-aired ghettos called reservations. Intermarriage with brown pagan savages didn't figure into the Anglo scheme of things. Then they reneged on their treaties, pushing tribes out of land they had been promised. After that, they passed the Dawes act, dividing up many reservations and buying up the land. Mismanagement and corruption have characterized the U.S. relationship with its native peoples since 1776. Was it better to destroy native cultures through assimilation and expropriation or by pushing them off coveted land and creating ghettos on the land Anglos didn't want at the time? I would say neither were moral or just. As far as morality and decency is concerned, I would say there is plenty for both countries to be introspective about: if Mexico has not done a good job of tasking care of its own, neither has the United States treated its people of color well. Slavery existed for 240 years on this continent in what is now the United States and apartheid for another century after that. And I ask you which country's slaves were illegally imported into the other during the period before the Texas revolution?
As far as Mexicans contributing to their culture, are you referring to Americans of Mexican ancestry or Mexicans? To say that either group doesn't enrich culture is just plain ignorant. Mexican music, art, literature and cinema on the other side of the border have very productive. If one bothers to look outside the American pop culture bubble one would learn that. As far as Mexicans standing up to social injustice, I refer you to 1910, 1968 and the Zapatista movement. And to the actions being taken right now in Ayutla and other places where Mexicans have become exasperated with their lot.
To say that Mexico's government has served its people well would be inaccurate. We'd all better hope that recent efforts at reform will bear fruit. Another revolution would not be good for either nation. At the same time, corruption, greed and mindless violence are certainly not unfamiliar aspects of life in America, are they. And when's the last time Mexico invaded another country under false pretenses?
gdelirium454 please seek help without delay before you harm yourself or others. Talk of suicide as an alternative to a particular variety of music is not a sign of mental or spiritual health nor is your need to share such strong negative opinions of a country you have never visited.
Seeking help is not a sign of weakness but rather of strength. Be strong!
Ummm - Well Mike - as for contributing - apparently Mexico doesn't share your opinion - since it has been "exporting" nationals at an almost exponential rate for a looooong time ...
more like a cleansing really than an migration.
I am yet to hear a cogent explanation as to why this "culture group" is routinely discriminated against - low pay, squalor and despair seem to be their share of the native land treasure into which they were born - where's the "grass roots" civil rights movement in Mexico for a a fair wage, family cohesion, community stability and infra-structure investment; And the support of the Obama government ...so sensitive to the human rights issues?( Of course there are no votes available from fully engaged Nationals residing in Mexico - so it's understandable from that perspective.)
And just out of curiosity when the neo-cultural studies resume will the exploitation and dislocation of the indigenous Indians of Mexico be included in the "cultural history"?
And Tom - that old saw just doesn't mean much anymore it's really more like an insider joke ... if that's all you got - then you ain't got much - but then we both know that ... don't we!!
Personally, I think that gdelirium454 showed great moral courage in posting his racist rant anonymously.
As an Anglo who lived the first half of his life on the west side of Tucson and who still finds the Old Pueblo to be a powerful magnet, I have to say that gdelirium454 must have never made it west of Tucson Blvd. Pobrecito. Ignorance is not bliss. Tucson was an O'Odham, Spanish and Mexican community before the U.S. picked it up in Santa Ana's yard sale. It is the mix of all of those cultures that make it a much more liveable place than the big metro-tumor to the north. So tacos are more fattening than chicken-fried steak with gravy? Latinas are unattractive as compared to Honey Boo0boo's family? The music is bad? Latinos are undereducated and don't contribute? Get out of your bubble. All cultures have something valid to contribute to the world and Tucson's mix is a good example.
"This will come out really bad, but I just want to state that at the time of writing this I don't have any 'beef' with any racist a$$hole and my expressions here are nothing more than simple observations and experiences" -- you are a PIG.
Funny you should bring up the indigenous peoples of Mexico - the way it's written would suggest it's past tense - or happened a loooong time ago(which is where a lot of the "movement" seem to be spending their time while texting on a 4g phone and wearing designer clothes and driving a new car and have never even seen a produce field except in swarmy emotional promos of suffering) - I digress -the enmity between the I's and the Mexicans is every bit as energetic as it ever has been - suggesting not a lot of progress along those lines and not a lot of love lost between them and their border neighbors either if what my conversations with non Mexican emigres can be believed.
This gives the frothy "human rights" dialogue of Mexican lawyers in the immigration trials as "friends of the court" a kind of comedic flavor not to mention the "street demonstrations" but that's something too - Mexicans are nothing else if not melodramatic.
But one of the mysteries that continues to puzzle me - the "immigration" numbers have long since passed beyond "immigration" to whole exodus. Now it would follow that a nation so concerned with human rights would ask itself - what the hell is going on here. Why are our people leaving their families and communities in such numbers? The fact is in my conversations with Nationals that I have talked to - that it appears - deliberate - by denying access to work through several methods - the most spoken about - low wages making it impossible to sustain themselves and their families.
This creates the suggestion of an purposeful "ethnic cleansing" of sorts on the part of the "uber-compassionate" Mexican government.. deliberate ... preferring instead to migrate their social agenda northward ... not northern Mexico who emphatically don't want Surenos in their communities - North America. And demanding self righteously we handle it for them.
I would feel better too, if I thought the liberal crescendo was truly motivated by an understanding of the nature of this phenomena and not by an unconscious sense of righteous superiority ) ie: a missonary zealots saving lost souls or animal rights activists ) - to which M. L. King alluded to all to frequently in his writings.
You must have made up that comment from the "South Carolina taco eater."
No one could be that ignorant and have such ridiculous ideas about Mexicans.
If that comment is real, that person must never have known any Mexicans!
More specifically, the birth rate in Mexico, herself, is virtually identical to that here in the States. Which means very low - in fact, barely enough to maintain each nation's populations.
It won't be long before we see campaigns by both governments encouraging producing more kiddies.
We don't want illegal aliens in this country stealing our jobs, stealing our benefits. Definitely tell Mr. Hateful to get out and go back to his failure of a crime-ridden, gang-ridden, drug-infested country. Bye, bye!
In this wonderful nation made up of mostly (pre-illegal aliens) law-abiding people, we want only "immigrants" here (this word means ONLY people who come legally and respect Americans by respecting our laws). We do not want illegal lawbreakers (correct word in Immigration law is "illegal aliens" who come by breaking our laws) in this country. Tell Mr. "hateful" to get out and yes, go back to his wonderful crime-ridden, gang-ridden, drug-infested nation that is falling apart because of a corrupt way of life. We only want law-abiding immigrants here. Bye-bye!
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