Sanger founded IPPF in 1948 - same "unfit" victims, same sterilization. Why nitpick?
The International Planned Parenthood Federation is not the U.S. Planned Parenthood although they share the same philosophy.
Thank you, Mari, for vocalizing what many of us are feeling as well. The hypocrisy is stunning. McSally is the NRA darling. Voters will remember in 2018.
Cold blooded killers.
As you said, history is hard. Let me help you and make you proud.
PP has its roots in Brooklyn, New York, where Margaret Sanger opened the first birth control clinic in the U.S. She founded the American Birth Control League in 1921, and she changed its name to "Planned Parenthood" (PP) in 1942. History, Markx.
And Kermit Gosnell?
Gosnell's trial was very informative for you history buffs. His Clinic and the PP exchanged patients over the years from about 1972. Some Gosnell patients complained to PP. PP said they would report Gosnell to Health Authorities. They (PP) never complained or reported Gosnell to Health Authorities.
Why not?, you might ask.
Among other historical connections between Gosnell and PP (three blocks away) over thirty years of trading patients, page 96 of the Grand Jury Report investigating Kermit Gosnell details what has come to be known as the Mothers Day Massacre.
It was also detailed by James Taranto in the Wall Street Journal:
"It was called the Mothers Day Massacre the brainchild of Harvey Karman, an eccentric California man without medical training who had served 2 years in prison for performing illegal abortions in the 1950s. Karman teamed with a young Philadelphia doctor who offered to perform abortions on 15 impoverished women, each between four and six months pregnant, who were bused to the (Gosnell) Philadelphia clinic from Chicago on Mothers Day 1972.
"What the women didnt know was that they were guinea pigs for a device Karman had invented, which he called the super coil. He had tested it only on wartime rape victims in Bangladesh, where he had traveled under the sponsorship of the International Planned Parenthood Federation."
That was the "Planned Parenthood Federation" for all you history buffs.
And that young Philadelphia doctor, of course, was Kermit Gosnell.
The Super Coil was a bunch of razors coated with protective gel and wrapped into a ball before being placed into the mothers uterus. After warming up in the body, the gel would melt and the razors would spring open cutting up the baby. You must be so proud, Markx.
There's lots more history. History experts should look this stuff up before preaching.
Heuisler: You are obviously unable to read an article in context. The section you quoted was describing America of Sanger's era - not Sanger. Sad!
Well then I hope I don't go too far by criticizing Neil Young just a bit. Pre CSN&Y.
Thanks Larry. That's one thing Wrong, Again can't do. Get along with anyone regarding anything. It's good to know that you can.
Dylan may have been at his best when he was not even singing.
JJMarks, thank you for attempting to correct me - for saying Sanger did not believe in abortion. The article you referenced certainly set me straight, confirming the campaign Sanger and others who wanted to protect the Gene Pool waged for the sterilization of the unfit and the lesser breeds.
I quote your reference:
"The flip side of shaming wealthy white women into reproducing more quickly was figuring out a way to keep the inferior stock from breeding, so that healthy and wealthy white women could catch up and forestall the deterioration of the race. The answer to that quandary was forced sterilization on a massive nationwide scale in order to keep undesirable people from procreating.
The principle targets of the programs included not only women of color (primarily Southern Black women, although Californias sterilization program targeted many Latina women), but also criminals, the poor, and any womenincluding white womenwho were believed to be feebleminded, with feeblemindedness often corresponding to sexual promiscuity.
All of this is to say that concerns about population control weighed heavy on the minds of Americans in the early 20th century. Classes on eugenics were taught in colleges nationwide; eugenics was presented as scientific fact in biology textbooks; and the American Eugenics Society held Fitter Families Contests at state fairs throughout the 1920s, during which rural American families were encouraged to compete with one another to determine which family had the best human stock. Medals that read Yea, I have a goodly heritage were awarded to families that were deemed genetically favorable.
It may seem bizarre and Orwellian to us now, but that was the United Statesin which Sanger lived. And given the enthusiasm with which ordinary Americans embraced eugenics, it is no surprise thatSanger eventually joined up with them.
Now on that we can agree. Thank you.
I've never insulted one person who didn't bring it on, such as yourself.
With the possible exception of overrated musicians, such as Bob Dylan.
How can you ignore the link from the San Jose Insider. You read it. How can you defend your comment? Or is this all you do, attempt to insult people ?
Like I said...useless links.
No proof of anything.
I actually have a life outside of mama's basement. I actually live in my own house with my own family. You and Wrong, Again are proving yourselves to be on a level...a very useless level.
P.S.-After that stupid post, I take back the statement in which I said it seems like you have a sliver of intelligence. Sometimes even I slip up. I am human you know.
Troll? What do you call what you are doing? Useless links? I don't see any supporting your view. Why is that?
Next time you say "nobody" you might want to check first. Now get out of your Mom's basement and wash those pajamas. You're starting to smell.
Friend? Seriously Larry? Wrong, Again is about the same amount of friend as brain cancer.
Oh, by the way, thanks for all those useless links.
Are you training under Wrong, Again? If so, you gotta step up your troll game.
You actually seem like you have a sliver of intelligence. Wrong, Again doesn't ever seem like that.
You need to pay more attention in (low) class.
That's right What Again, nobody is talking about repealing the 2nd Amendment. You can relax.
Maybe try relaxing while you read this article about the efforts to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
There you go What, Again. Doesn't it make you fell much better to know that "Nobody is trying to rescind the Second Amendment," as your friend says above?
"The rescinding of the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, that document that liberals, aka, 'progressives', in reality communists, have so much revulsion for."
Nobody is trying to rescind the Second Amendment cupcake snowflake. The commie progressive liberals will not knock on your mama's basement door, come downstairs and take your precious guns.
You can change your underwear now. Believe me, this threat (and all of the others) you've dreamed up isn't (aren't) real.
William Heuisler would do well to read about Margaret Sanger from the words of Black women who are aware of her ties to eugenics AND who can tell the history of the Black community who worked closely with Sanger to advocate for birth control.
Lumping Gosnell in with PP is unbelievably dumb.
I understand that some folks just have a difficult time with history. Facts are hard.
AZ DPS Officer saved this morning by an American citizen armed with a handgun.
The 2nd Amendment saves another life.
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