I'd like to add one more possession to Timmothy's list. Their tonsils !
When the persons responsible are caught and identified and found guilty, then as punishment, spray paint each and every possession they own, down to their socks. That would include their house, their car...etc..
Clean up our city. Better yet make them.
I agree. It seems like Mr. Bedoya is right up there with the patron saint of local grafitti scofflaws, Ward 1 Councilwoman Regina Romero.
Stop it kentop you're making me dizzy. Special/unwanted? How about loved? Sounds like the same problems we have with parents in the public schools.
Time for a little religion? heckya!
Graffiti is more about alienation. Most younger folk feel alienated. They believe that they do not fit into "society". They've been told since birth that they are special. So, they learn that they are not only not special, but unwanted. They want to communicate to others of their ilk. They communicate to the "others" using graffiti, and the "others" respond. Would you "follow the rules" of your society if you felt alienated from that same society? Do you romanticize your predicament the way all adolescents do? Here's a spray paint can. Nobody's looking. Express yourself. Turn your weakness into a strength.
Nobody mentions the fact that you can go to Target right now & find graffiti used as a marketing tool. The youth watches videos with Graff in background, video games etc marketing graffiti to their target market. Graffiti is art when given permission & vandalism when not given permission. There is no guidance, no mentorship. Art is CULTURE. We can't control all things and even less with a budget cut to the Arts.
Graffiti is not a historical cultural display of any people. It is not art, it is a form of communication, a primitive one. My belief is that graffiti has a closer relationship with terrorism than with art. Why? The message it sends is most often a threat, or a will to intimidate or incite, free speech? OK but you cannot use other peoples property for your message and if your message is to claim territory or to incite violence or send a threat, that needs to be punished as terrorism.
As a former art professor of 25 years and continuing studio artist, my opinions about graffiti have evolved over the years. Early, as a youthful artist I loved it for it's freedom of expression and probably because I was too poor to own anything significant enough to be tagged. Graffiti writers take great risks while defacing the property of others. A young art student where I used to teach was tagging a boxcar on a train when the train started to move, she fell off the car, on the tracks and the train amputated her leg. A harsh and permanent punishment for her actions. I cannot look at graffiti on a train without thinking of her. File it under smart people doing stupid things.
As Kentop stated , ancient petroglyphs, pictographs, sacred burial mounds, and other statements from antiquity now considered part of our cultural heritage, are equivalent to the primal urge to express ones self. I blister when I see bullet holes, or "Bob loves Mary" scratched over ancient petroglyphs. Yet isn't that expression the same if undeniably less significant? When I saw the news of the graffiti of the Fox Theatre, I was disgusted. Such a beautiful, historic facade that contributes so wonderfully to this community and the aesthetics of downtown Tucson. Policing graffiti is nearly impossible and will happen in some form or another as long as humans have free will and the urge to express it. Call it good, bad, art, garbage it will sustain. The positive notion about the Fox is that the facade is mostly ceramic tile which cleans up easier than some materials except for the grout. Ceramic facades and generally architecture is a more substantial form of artistic expression as the rapid cleanup demonstrated.
The late artist Keith Haring started as a graffiti artist in the New York subway tunnels, and graduated to the galleries where he received broad and even commercial success. You can get a coffee mug with his imagery. I am not sure if he evolved, but the public's perception, as well as the art world's perception of his work evolved greatly.
Danehy's essay woefully misses the point as criticizing graffiti writers and the pathetic Pima County Arts Council are easy targets that most will agree upon. Too bad he never mentioned the generous contractor who rapidly volunteered to clean up the repugnant graffiti...gratis from what I hear. That's where the story lies. Once again in our culture the worst brings out the best, and Danehy missed a golden opportunity to point that out.
Another point missed is what I call corporate graffiti. Our streets and highways are littered with inane billboards and advertisements that in my mind are equally offensive compromising one of the most visually beautiful landscapes anywhere ...yet we take them for granted.
I've always considered taggers to be a bunch of dogs pissing to mark their property, except these assholes don't mark their property - they mark any one else's
No complaints here about your comments, Tom. Graffiti is a blight-it is not art to deface a public property just because you feel a need to express your poor self.
These taggers are nothing but a bunch of sleazy roaches that come out at night and should be treated as such. If cought exterminated.
Are ancient petroglyphs graffiti? The romans had to put up with graffiti, too. There always has been, and always will be, graffiti. You can fight it with technology by creating anti-graffiti surfaces. You can fight it by criminalizing it and punishing the few that are caught. You can try a type of non-smoking campaign (warning labels on spray paint?). But there is still going to be some idiot out there with a brain the size of the ball bearing in the paint can who just doesn't give a damn. I read a science fiction novel about an escalating "war" between graffiti artists and the phone company where the artists added a low grade flu virus to the graffiti paint on a pay phone so that anybody using the phone would contract the flu. The telephone company reacted by creating a pay phone that periodically cleaned itself like an oven by heating up to a few thousand degrees that burned off anything painted or applied to it. Do you think that stopped the graffiti artists?
Thank you Tom. Well said. I did not hear an ounce of pity for the gang members shot and killed by police in Waco.
Unlike Baltimore where every possible excuse was made for the actions of those criminals.
Lawbreakers are lawbreakers.
You have a sister in a Nevada brothel? How's her fastball?
YANKEES !!!!!!!!! You were doing O.K. (Even the part about you right, me wrong) but the Yankees. I'd rather have a sister in a Nevada brothel than a brother who's a Yankee fan !!
Last November, my kids were going to spend a week in New York City. (They were going to go see a Cornell hockey game at Madison Square Garden and then take in some shows). Mr. CW13 graciously gave me some tips as to where they could get a great Italian meal and said that they should absolutely go to the Carnegie Deli. He and I still disagree on almost everything (I'm right; he's wrong). However, there is always the chance to find common ground. For example, he and I agree that Jack Lambert was the baddest NFL player of all time. Maybe you guys should get together, just so long as you don't start agreeing with each other. That would be yucky. I'm hoping that one of you is a Yankee fan, while the other likes the Mets. Or one likes the Giants, the other the Jets. I'm assuming that one of you liked Giuliani...
Open comment to Tom. Anyway you can help out here?
Really ? Geez, we might have somethng in common after all. Where'd you work? If there's a way you can get the Geekly or Tommy to act as middle man it's yours. I may be a right wing asshole, but I'm a man of my word.
cw....geeeez, just how frustrated are you.? Get annoyed much. ?
And ! I used to work and live in NYC for a short time. Loved it. Now gimme that 50.
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