I had a chance to shoot Ronald Ray-gun back when he was governor of California --
which would have been as important to the world as killing Hitler in 1928 would have been...
But I didn't.
I guess that means just having access to a gun wouldn't cause me to commit a crime...
In the days and weeks after Jan. 8, I was curious as to what Jared Loughner was about, and went looking for info. What lucid ideas he had, (there were precious few, and I doubt he would have made a distinction either way) sounded to me like things I've heard from Ron Paul. The really crazy stuff sounded like Perry & Bachmann. Nothing I could attribute to a liberal.
I think the problem may lie in your interpretation of the word "fact". For future reference, facts are NOT what those little voices in your head keep telling you.
ChetDud, you are right on all counts. Let Dallas try to lure tax-dodging scumbags like Beck into town to create jobs if they want to. Tucson should focus on vocations that contribute to the health and welfare of citizens who have something to contribute to Tucson.
I think letter writer Bryan Smith is actually "Pupito" in the other comments sections. There's just no conceivable way that TWO people can call Jared Loughner a liberal and claim that liberals somehow act like Loughner. Viciously stupid statements find comfortable homes in the comments sections of news websites, but this is just too much coincidence for me.
Well, the government kind of NEEDS taxes so that they can do things like, oh, I don't know, perhaps EDUCATING THE CHILDREN, REPAIRING THE ROADS, and other stuff like that.
Tucson does NOT need to "look to other cities" unless those cities are beginning to walk the path to a sustainable future. Most cities (and countries) are scrambling for the last crumbs of a dying system. We should NOT emulate their behavior.
Tucson's problem is that this town is corporate-friendly and war-friendly but NOT "business" friendly. It's not a friendly place for the real driver of the economy; vital small businesses and working people.
Neither Rothschild nor Grinnell would make things better since they both agree that more corporate welfare and pandering to the outsized needs of big business is the "solution".
There's plenty of good Work available in this town creating a sustainable future for the region and there are plenty of good people available to do the work. But the current government and economic system of, by and for the corporations (especially the war profiteers) cannot put those people together with right livelihood at a living wage.
The types of "jobs" that this "economy" values are NOT those that would provide us with a sustainable future worth living in. It's time to consider electing leaders who can help organize for that decent future.
"The facts said that Loughner was "
The "facts said". The facts spoke to you ?? Hmmm..what ya been smokin' ?
You can read facts, hear facts, be told facts, but the "facts" can't talk to you.
Local governments are always outbidding each other via tax credits and other inducements to bring some preferred company, sports team, etc. to their town.
Time after time that company or team takes advantage of the taxpayer largess only to pick up stakes and move on to someplace that offers them a better deal. Then the taxpayers are holding the bag for an empty building or sports complex that is nothing but a further drag on the government. Look no further than big-league baseball in Tucson for an example.
While Arizona might try to be "movie friendly" in other ways, tax credits for yet another special interest remain a bad idea.
Yes, Mike, facts are such troublesome things for some people.
The ridiculous letter of the month is pretty accurate.
People are leaving high tax states...................true
Beck gets death threats and needs security......true
Liberals aren't opposed to violent talk against opponents........true (see Jimmy Hoffa)
The facts said that Loughner was a crazy liberal who like flag burning videos.....true
Where's the "ridiculous" part? You just don't like inconvenient facts?
More people have forgotten about Grijalva's message than Jan Brewer's "hoardes of headless bodies scattered in the Arizona desert." When you go off-topic, you make no sense....can't defend the FACT that conservatives have hurt, not helped, the AZ film industry. Maybe you forgot when former Gov. Mecham refused to allow AZ to celebrate Martin Luther King, Jr. Day--and all the revenue we lost because of him. You probably forgot because he got booted from office.
Instead of blaming the "conservatives" in Arizona perhaps we should lay the "blame" on Congressman Raul Grijalva...you know the BOYCOTT ARIZONA Representative that we are so proud of! Lay the blame there my friend!
Tuesday night Pima had another community forum on the elimination of the neediest students by not offering certain remedial courses .
But in the beginning……
Pima college claimed they needed to turn away the neediest students (determined by low scores on their assessment test) by eliminating remedial courses because state funding to Pima College had been cut drastically. So the college had to cut and they chose to cut the remedial courses which serve the neediest students because Pima has statistics that say these students are failures.
That is where the myriad of confusion begins – the statistics on Pima College demonstrate that the college has a 10% graduation rate, 79% of the students coming to Pima test into at least one remedial class, and as Pima explained at their most recent community forum 19 out of 20 students leave the college and don’t finish their study program, which actually verifies the rest of higher education’s supposition that community colleges are a waste of taxpayer dollars because they divert students from a worthwhile education?
Yet when Pima college did a recent survey of students they didn’t survey the students who have left; the fault is not because of students’ lack of effort to tell the college, the college just doesn’t listen, that is why students leave.
Students are clear about why they leave Pima including teachers and staff who don’t care and/or have little to no contact with their students evidenced in classes that start out with 30 students and end up with 3 with all of this and funding issues complicated by the college’s payment of six figure salaries to over 45 administrators.
Doubtless, it is not coincidental that this elimination of the neediest from Pima College coincides with the college’s removal of all daycares (which are funded in the same way that all other daycares are funded and which continue to operate), outreach coordinators who would visit high schools, and retention specialists whose major duties included working with the neediest.
The confusion continues: while Pima College initially claimed it was the neediest students’ failures on the assessment tests that prompted this action to eliminate these remedial courses, the college then claimed these students are failures because Pima has provided a wide variety of programs to help them over the past five years and it has not worked. This sounds more like the K-12 schools’ legacy of the past 50 years in which once again public schools have failed our students.
And still more confusion because Pima College said that they were eliminating remedial courses for the neediest because of funding cuts, but now they claim they will set up a new program called Pathways to Pima with techniques to help the neediest students which will cost more mone, although the costs weren’t discussed.
Confusion then leaves one stunned for the techniques in this new program, Pathways to Pima, that were proposed by Pima College, are old solutions. The plan would include the use of literacy and adult education programs that have already existed and which are overloaded already with students. The college also proposed that the neediest students could be sent to other college programs like Center for Training and Development for literacy classes but these programs do not provide those types of services and do require that students take an assessment, so these students cannot access these programs.
Bewilderment then ensues as Pima College proposes that there will be some courses that the neediest students can take at a cost of $33 which in five to six weeks will teach them everything they did not learn in 12 years of high school or in any other previous Pima College program that served the neediest and didn’t work.
Then there is the kicker for these neediest students because they will need to pay for these courses as they will not be eligible for any federal grants or other college assistance.
However, the confusion with Pima College’s plan becomes completely overwhelming because the college will still allow these students to take up to 15 credits of courses, just not any of the major general education courses that are part of a degree steering these neediest students away from the dream of a college degree.
While confusion reigned in much of Pima’s plan to eliminate educational opportunities for the neediest students, one thing was clear at the meeting – this is a done deal because the board and chancellor have already decided this is what will be. So why the community forums if they do not even wish to listen to the community who are the sole reason for their existence as a college.
In not listening to the community, it is an abandonment on the part of the board and Pima College to serve their community well. The outcome is simple – the neediest students will not be able to go to Pima College nor continue onto other accredited universities and college; instead these students will turn to more costly, unaffordable and unaccredited colleges that cannot provide the educational and career opportunities that Pima College was designed to provide.
And it was also made clear at the community forum that the blame lies on students and businesses…..how terribly disingenuous , at its worst hypocritical……
As an epilogue, statistics actually do support that there are programs and schools that do work with the neediest of students; Until educators, which certainly includes Pima college administrators, accept their responsibility for the poor state of our public educational system instead of blaming others, then education is never going to improve……and these types of programs that determine who can and cannot go to college are pure elitism and racism (there is abundant research that clearly demonstrates that blacks and hispanics compose the greatest portion of the neediest students.)
Well said Chet!
I agree that being dependent on military spending guarantees that the military will keep spending and looking for another war for justification, but to think tourism is an alternative economy is also delusional. Basing an economy on either puts the local populace at a disadvantage. We still end up working for people from somewhere else who have money while we don't. And we still have to build their infrastructure, change their sheets and clean up their waste stream.
While tourism may be the lesser of two evils, it is not as effective as developing a local economy.
Charles W. Walker...can't you come up with something better than the "Sound of Freedom". Think we have heard that one before...many times.
On the single engine aircraft crash, you may be right but I do recall the twin-engine crash of an F-18 from Miramar MCAS in December of 2008 killing four in a San Diego neighborhood..two babies, the mother and grandmother.
I didn't live here in 1978, but I clearly remember in the early '80's one of the Air Force jets crashing into the U of A area...so I guess it's happened at least twice. I believe the flight pattern was changed after the 80's crash, so it wouldn't kill people again. I don't know the policy or pattern now, though. We need a different economy for 21st century Tucson--that phases out the military-industrial-corporate complex. ChetDude is absolutely correct. Another article pointed out that the Old Pueblo would support a fantastic and viable film industry--exactly the types of "business" we need to grow and support. Many people I talk to are 100% on board with diversification.
I guess Mr. Walker missed the debt/deficit “pseudo-crisis” and the economic collapse caused by dozens of un-funded wars and the posting of American Legions of Occupation all over the world.
He also seems to have missed the facts of Peak Oil and Global Climate Destabilization caused by overuse of fossil fuels. The Pentagon is the NUMBER ONE consumer of U.S. petroleum.
It also seems to have escaped his notice that the F35s he’s defending are overpriced boondoggles designed to fight the F16s that the U.S. has supplied to others while lining the pockets of Lockheed, etc. Or that the brilliant minds of the Military-Industrial Complex will be selling these planes below cost (using U.S. taxpayer supplied “foreign aid” dollars) to other countries and then point and say, “See, they have them too, we must make the next-next generation fighter to defend ourselves!” continuing the Empire’s Death Spiral.
When I hear military jets overhead (and DO, WAY TOO OFTEN), I hear the dying blasts of the end of the Age of Cheap Fossil Fuels coupled with the financial and moral bankrupting of our society by the Permanent War Economy™ and its proponents in the Military-Industrial-Governmental Complex.
Charles Walker might well be "from a small town near Fresno", but it's too bad he didn't take time to study enough military aviation history to know that Tucson has already suffered through a military jet crash thanks to DM's presence. An A-7 Corsair II piloted by Capt. Fredrick Ashler crashed southeast of the U of A on October 26th, 1978 (Google it and see). Since this is indeed a single engine fighter (which Mr. Walker claims "Never has one of those crashed in a populated area"), one can gauge the overall validity of his letter.
I say let's ask the Iraqis, Afghanis, Libyans, Bosnians, Panamanians, Yemenis and Vietnamese if the scream of our fighter jets makes them feel free. In fact, if the howl of an American jet engine liberates the listener, one must be compelled to ask why it isn't standard issue with our UAV Predator drones as killing them silently doesn't seem to be working. Oh wait, it's the sound of "freedom being defended"...what freedom would that be, Mr. Walker? The freedom to subjugate oneself under corporate rule? Or the freedom to kill whoever threatens those corporations' status quo? That's what the scream of our jets represents to the nations mentioned above. As well as a lot of the people they fly over in this nation, no matter their proximity to ammo dumps or air bases.
What an asinine poem. Just another U. of A. liberal arts doctorate flipping burgers for a living.
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