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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Feature

Re: “Mysteries in the Mountains

Yeah, contact the guy Steve for info, he'll be glad to provide for a $100. Woo-Hoo.

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Posted by WHo-Do on 11/13/2014 at 3:10 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Even when Bill Clinton's popularity was at his lowest, he still went out to campaigning for his colleges, but yet Obama was very quiet during this last one which asks the question was he quiet because he was afraid it would be detrimental to the Democrats election chances or did was he quiet because he has already planned to run our country his way no matter what the out come was?

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Posted by AZPaul on 11/05/2014 at 3:21 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Look at just how right I was ...yesterday. Called it almost to the letter.

Wake up people. You can smoke dope in Oregon. The streetcar leaves in an hour.

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Posted by Rat T on 11/05/2014 at 12:11 PM

Re: “Our 2014 Endorsements

I am simply appalled that you people passed Prop 415. I love animals & had a 20 year career in veterinarian medicine. 16 in Tucson.
What we need are high fines on 'backyard breeders'. People who sell dogs. There are too many Unaltered animals. A lot stems from mainly men, who refuse to neuter a male dog. They have human and animal sexuality confused. A dog breeds, a dog does not make love. Nor a cat. They breed for survival of instinct.
I'd be a millionaire over again for every time I heard. He won't be able to lick himself. Are you kidding me.
PACC & HS do 2 for 1 adoptions. Bad. Most people do not follow up with any veterinarian care. Even a free exam visit that is given. Spay & neutering are expensive. As maintenance health care. Now, I have always been a responsible pet owner.
Now my taxes again go up due to lack of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. But it's okay for a woman to MURDER AN UNBORN CHILD?? WT?? BUT NOT OKAY TO KILL DOGS/CATS BECAUSE THESE SAME PEOPLE FEEL ANIMALS HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN A HUMAN LIFE!!
WE LIVE IN A CRAPPY WORLD..
I can't wait to move out of this looser state. Arizona,is an embarrassing and shameful state. Get your heads out of your butts.

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Posted by angry@az on 11/05/2014 at 10:32 AM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

I give the TW endorsements about a 15% chance of winning. Barber may be the closest, just because of voter laziness. But the Dems have thrown a whole deck of race cards out there and people are seeing through their lies. They have accomplished nothing but more division.

Protect the polls. It's all they have left.

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Posted by Rat T on 11/03/2014 at 9:33 AM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Betts Putnam Hildago runs on a feel good agenda of smaller class sizes, restoration of MAS, and an abject refusal to close any more schools. When she was asked how she would pay for this very expensive agenda, she replied that placing solar panels on school grounds would generate income. AYFKM?

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Posted by Dartman on 11/03/2014 at 9:21 AM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Rodolfo Acunas Occupied America deserves to be read, critiqued and analyzed by students both for its ideological message and its accuracy in factual assertions. After reading it I have found that in both areas it proves to be a divisive and inappropriate book for most high school kids. It would only be appropriate for those kids who already have a background in research techniques, advanced reading comprehension and a willingness for critical analysis. It would also be important to see how it was being used in the classroom. These books were being cherry picked by MAS teachers and not being read or critiqued in their entirety.

I will be the first to acknowledge that this is how most history classes operate at the high school level, cherry picked, factually questionable information presented to students who are ill equipped to question the veracity of it.

Replacing a bad Euro-centric perspective with an equally bad Chicano-centric perspective was not progress and the MAS program failed students due to the hubris of it's leadership.

We should be teaching children how to think for themselves, not what they should be thinking.....

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Posted by HumanBean on 11/03/2014 at 9:00 AM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

From what I have seen in the last year, I find it impossible to believe that either a Stegeman-controlled or a Grijalva/Pedersen-affiliated majority will be able to end the divisive patterns of action and speech the district has been immersed in for far too long. We need to move, as a district, into a space where we can stop savaging one another and we can begin to work together to meet students' needs.

Please vote for Putnam-Hidalgo and Campos-Fleenor to bring an end to the factionalism on the TUSD board.

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Posted by Vote for Putnam-Hidalgo & Campos-Fleenor on 10/31/2014 at 4:54 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

marty
Rodolfo Acuña's Occupied America: A History of Chicanos is a college and graduate level text that we utilized for our American History / Chicana-o Perspectives class; Luis Urrea's Devil's Highway is another college level read that we utilized in our Junior English/Chicana-o Literature class. Both of these texts, just two of a number of examples of rich, rigorous and engaging literature that were utilized in MAS coursework, were ones that mark stegeman's was so fearful and ignorant of. 6th grade level material they are not. stegeman's testimony against MAS, its curriculum and pedagogy, in the ALJ hearings as a "cult" (while noticeably shaking - listen to the audio, it's comical) further demonstrated his personal witch hunt he was determined to carry out. Marty and Mark, what privileges you both to the extent that you feel no need to substantiate your claims?

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Posted by Sean Arce on 10/31/2014 at 12:26 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Mark........you have no point. Did you admit that there was NO real compromise offered as you have touted? No. Have you admitted that you and your board majority along with Martha Durkin and John Pedicone militarized Board Meetings? No. Have you admitted that MAS was methodically singled out by Horne and Huppenthal and that you bought into their targeted and racist campaign? No. Have you admitted that you helped divide this city along ethnic and racial lines? No. You may be a hero among haters (which is what got you elected), but you are one of Tucson's historical villains. Killing MAS was a form of ethnic cleansing. You not only allowed it; you took charge of getting the killing done once Horne and Huppenthal handed it to you. We all have choices to make in life, many of which fall on the side of good and others which fall on the side of evil. You took the side of evil. Stop trying to justify it because there are those of us who recognize you for who you are and what you have done.

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Posted by Tell the TRUTH Stegeman on 10/31/2014 at 9:19 AM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

See and Tell the TRUTH ...: I have admitted errors. You have not. That makes my point.

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Posted by Mark Stegeman on 10/31/2014 at 1:32 AM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

I will place my confidence in the studies of the efficacy of MAS which have been conducted by credentialed experts- external to the District. In the period of one month we have seen how TUSD so easily flipped its numbers relative to the budget. Certainly it has done so in other areas. My point in responding to Mark Stegeman's comment, was to remind everyone that the "compromise" which was referenced by Mark, was really NO compromise at all. He offered to either kill MAS slowly or have it killed immediately. As stated earlier- this was NO compromise.

We have Horne, Huppenthal, Pedicone, Stegeman, Hicks, Cuevas and Sugiyama to thank for the demise of MAS. Each played their part and each brought about great division within this community. (Remember Sugiyama- the appointed Board member who worked only a few doors down from Stegeman's office at the U of A! Stegeman almost got away with that maneuver without notice. ) Stegeman's bogus "compromise" was used as yet another means to make "the strongest MAS advocates" appear to be irrational and to portray himself as the one who tried so hard to reason with 'them.' For months he would tell people that he 'tried saving MAS' but that unreasonable people just would not listen to reason. These are masterful manipulative mind games that Stegeman plays. His lack of social intelligence seems to allow him to work his manipulations almost in a numbed state, as he brings about real harm to individuals, to an institution and to a community. Compassion seems to be totally absent.

As to the ongoing rants about 'MAS not meeting state standards' which continue- a thorough examination of the 2014 TUSD Curriculum Audit indicates that without a TUSD curriculum- there has been NO alignment to state standards. It is so easy to for some to continue the attacks on MAS based on myths or contorted information. My comments, although spurred on by M &M's comments are really are not for them. I have little hope that their worlds will ever be expanded and inclusive. My comments are for TW readers who think beyond the myths and manipulations that are so often spewed and attempted by the Martys and Marks of the world.

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Posted by Tell the TRUTH - on 10/30/2014 at 11:48 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Mark and Marty read the Cabrera et al. (2012) report and the Cabrera et al. (2014), which will be published in the American Educational Research Journal, on the efficacy of MAS program.

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Posted by Sean Arce on 10/30/2014 at 7:24 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

See and tell the TRUTH Stegeman says: "You condemned the MAS teachers and Director for not having a curriculum- without examining whether "official" curriculum existed elsewhere in TUSD. Of course, now you know, via the 2014 Curriculum Audit, that the entire District has been void of curriculum."

First off, the issue was not so much that MAS had no articulated curriculum, but that the TUSD Board was allowing graduation credit for courses that did not even approach meeting state standards in the subject areas the credit was being offered. No one had to wait for any 2014 curriculum audit to know that the TUSD Board had abdicated its responsibility to make sure the district met the state standards for curriculum. Judge Kowal, in his decision upholding Huppenthal's decision that TUSD violated the law with the MAS classes lambasted the Governing Board for its failure to do so, and not just for the MAS classes.

By the way, your assertion that the coursework was rigorous is totally risible. Anyone who has seen the coursework for the high school juniors and seniors in MAS classes knows that it was much closer to the sixth grade level than anything else.

As far as authentic intelligence goes, I'd say the bottom line is having the requisite judgment to separate fact from fiction. Your post fails to do that, as was just pointed out in only two of the many instances that could have been raised. I bet you still believe that 98+% of MAS students graduated...even though TUSD's statistician proved that only about 84% of MAS students graduated, the same percentage as students who never took a single MAS class.

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Posted by Marty on 10/30/2014 at 5:27 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Here is a chunk of reality Mark, your viewpoint that 'the strongest MAS advocates were unwilling to compromise' shows just how steeped you were and are in a single perspective (privileged white-male). There are many evolved white males; you are not one. Your perspective remains dominant in Tucson, in Arizona, and in the US- no doubt- and much of what is wrong with the world is that the female and ethnic and racial minority perspectives are often disregarded or silenced by those who are threatened by their very presence. The world is no longer as narrow as you would like to keep it.

No one should have been asked to "compromise" on course work that offered a perspective which inspired, engaged and taught- and ultimately rendered positive academic results! We all recall what you offered as a so called compromise: the MAS courses will be taught as electives and not core curriculum courses. This would have brought about a slow but sure death to MAS. Agreement to this suicidal compromise was insulting and when it was immediately rejected, a quick death was imposed. Either way, the death of MAS under your majority rule was destined to take place. Do not pretend for one second that there was ever any dignified and substantive presentation of a "compromise"- because there just wasn't. We tried explaining to you that students were not going to sign up for a rigorous course without providing equal credit as those who take sister courses in language arts or government (which remain to offer only an Euro-American-centric perspective). You condemned the MAS teachers and Director for not having a curriculum- without examining whether "official" curriculum existed elsewhere in TUSD. Of course, now you know, via the 2014 Curriculum Audit, that the entire District has been void of curriculum.

MAS students and teachers (separately) had asked to meet with the administration time and time again. Both groups were ignored. We asked for the Board to learn more about MAS through its teachers and students. You did not. Both the Board and Dr. Pedicone, with guidance from Martha Durkin- responded by calling out TPS and doubling your TUSD security force. Do you really think this is how one sets up an environment for discussion and civility? How exactly does oppression work in bringing about any understanding? Oppression did not take place for a week or a month- it was a year of prodding and investigating and provoking. It was a year of gagging all of us. It was a painful time; one that should not be forgotten and one from which we each should take away truths- if nothing else. Your post is far from presenting any truth, in fact it is delusional. It would be so bold and courageous of you to one day- admit the wrongs you committed and the harm that you brought about. Until then you will be seen as what you are- a man without any social intelligence. Authentic intelligence goes far beyond an IQ and PHD.

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Posted by See and tell the TRUTH Stegeman on 10/30/2014 at 4:33 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Thanks for nothin weakly I already voted and not for your suckers.

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Posted by Harlan Thomas on 10/30/2014 at 2:48 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Yes, and in answering that subpoena, you shared the MAS classes reminded you of a cult and you quoted a Bircher. That was also very profound. No one needed to compromise. But what the community needed was for someone to show true leadership--and frankly that is something you, Cuevas and Hicks failed. So, great job, and per usual, Mark, love your comments.

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Posted by Aztlán Mari on 10/30/2014 at 2:32 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Jim (for this seems to be a signed piece -- thanks for that), I am going to wade here into treacherous waters to respond to your comment: "You [Cuevas] and Stegeman, when you were leaders of the board, did such a poor job bringing the district and community together during a highly contentious time." I readily admit that I made some mistakes during the MAS period, some of which I've long since acknowledged and some that might come later, whenever the book on that episode is written. I recently listened to the tapes of a couple of the worst meetings and it was -- painful. But there is another side that is left out of most popular accounts, including yours. I did many things and published several opeds and went to many meetings with various stakeholders and put together a carefully crafted (though scorned by many) proposal to achieve some sort of compromise on that issue. (I give John Pedicone credit for mostly similar motivations and actions, though we had some disagreements and he made his own somewhat different set of mistakes.) One reason that this all failed is that the strongest MAS advocates, who drove much of what happened, were unwilling to consider any compromise on what they clearly considered to be a matter of principle. It is not my place to judge anyone, but refusal to budge even an inch is, to use your language, not a position likely to bring the district and community together. After May 2011 I had done everything I knew to do and stood aside (except for a subpoena I had to answer) as the train hit the wall. But up to that point I had tried hard to create some kind of viable middle ground.

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Posted by Mark Stegeman on 10/30/2014 at 12:58 PM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

All I know is thanx to the Pima County Recorder's website showing early voting locales, this rat race is officially over for me. I'm on board with DuVal, Barber - who also supports my tribe's West Valley Resort whereas Kirkpatrick crossed party lines to vote against, and Rotellini because these Dems support GLBT rights. I don't support any ballot propositions with the exception of 415, and there's absolutely no way in Hell I'd ever vote for Terry Goddard, so I wrote in Squidward Tentacles for Secretary of State.

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Posted by Edge Harvey on 10/30/2014 at 11:26 AM

Re: “9 Things for Last Minute Voters to Know

Thank you, TW, for doing the hard work and making a pick for the PCC Governing Board seat. Our community college has a lot of catching up to do and your interest will help that to happen.
I do agree with you that the election of either candidate will represent a big improvement and that Mark Hanna is the best of two good choices.

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Posted by Dave Gallagher on 10/30/2014 at 8:20 AM

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