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Re: “Editors Note

@CW13

He wasn't complimenting you

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Posted by Sick of Stupidity on 02/21/2017 at 10:47 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Thank goodness the media keeps pointing out Trump's blatant lies. If "uniting" the country requires that we all drink the cool aid, then no thanks.

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Posted by Thinkforyourself on 02/21/2017 at 8:55 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

For a different viewpoint (press as servants of their oligarchic masters), see Ian Welsh:
http://www.ianwelsh.net/the-press-is-trump…

And for two counterexamples:

Remember Jesse Bohon, the Christian HS French teacher who got up and said (to enormous applause and the clip going viral) "Why don't we expand Medicaid and have everybody have insurance?" Except you won't find that key quote CNN's coverage:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics…

And here's Matt Taibbi, describing how a semi-positive Bernie Sanders story in the NYT was edited to be anything but:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/…
Or, as Matt said: "This is, after all, the New York Times, which has practically been an official mouthpiece for the Clinton campaign this election season."

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Posted by Fact Checker 13 on 02/21/2017 at 8:09 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

New York Times, to the Washington Post & CNN all lost their credibility because they were biased toward Hillary and REFUSED to cover all the Bernie gatherings and it took an English news paper to expose that fact that Hillary was photoshopping her crowds. All of your polls were SOOO off because you live in a bubble and left US with the erroneous fact that Hillary was winning by a WAY MAJORITY!

On Immigration you only cover sappy news like, "The Poor Illegal Alien got caught and had to go back to his own country and come in like the law abiding citizens". You never covered the loss of jobs taken by 8.5 MILLION people who weren't supposed to be here. You never covered the cost to the rest of the tax payers for Social Services, education, housing, and Medical care for a bunch of people who LOWERED US wages so much that they couldn't live on the wages of the jobs they STOLE!

In short you made the same mistake the Democratic Party made, your constituency became FOREIGNERS instead of the Blue Collar and White Collar works and you paid for it.

No one voted FOR TRUMP - they voted AGAINST YOU, THE MEDIA and the FIXED Democratic Party that called all US workers "LAZY - That's why they lost their jobs". You never covered their sappy stories! This is what the support of the Invasion of poverty and ignorance caused:

THIS IS WHAT THE POWER OF THE PRESS ACCOMPLISHED!
60% of Households Now Receive More in Subsidized Income Than They Pay in Taxes - REDISTRIBUTION OF INCOME! And all of the money is STILL at the top where Hillary lives!
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/60-percent-h…

The people voted for a cleaner to come in and FIX the mess. If this CLEANER doesn't, there will be blood in the streets so get your cameras out and for crying out loud PLEASE brush up on your math and take a good look at the economic changes in this country in the last 30 years since the REAGAN's Amnesty!

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Posted by Postimpressionist on 02/21/2017 at 7:12 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

The press shouldn't have the freedom to report fake news . That is report things without evidence to back their claims . They know they are lying and nobody can do anything about it at least for now. Please report facts backed with evidence . In other words stop reporting lies that lead to us going into wars and spreading lies that divide our country . Our president wants to unite this country but the press would love to see it destroyed so that they can report a "good" story .

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Posted by Honest Abe on 02/21/2017 at 6:53 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Tim Steller's "Political Notebook" columns -- the series in which the TUSD Superintendent piece occurred -- are opinion journalism. He regularly offers both facts and opinions on a wide variety of topics, from whether McSally should hold a town hall to whether LaWall should face Feinman in a debate (note the consistency across the partisan spectrum: in general, Steller does better with that than Safier has ever done).

Most of Steller's OPINIONS have not been edited out of his columns. But his opinion about the TUSD Superintendent needing to be fired was. Those who follow TUSD and communicate now and then with the Star are well aware that representatives of TUSD are regularly badgering reporters and editors at the newspaper to modify their content to present a more positive image of the district. It seems to many who follow the Star's coverage and TUSD's responses to it that TUSD wants the local media to act as an agent in their effort to mislead the public about the extent of the district's problems and the quality of the district's administrative leadership.

Both the assertion that Steller's opinion should have remained in his Star piece and the concluding remark in the above comment "2nd Thoughts" criticizes stand: when TUSD or any other interest group succeeds in manipulating the local press and modifying coverage to suit their preferences, they undermine the kind of valid information delivery that keeps a democracy healthy. Those who understand what's going on want them to stop it. If Safier had any genuine commitment to honest journalism and a free press he would stand up to them on issues like this. But he doesn't, so he won't.

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Posted by Will Safier stand up for the free press locally, as well? on 02/21/2017 at 6:47 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

It seems that the MSM thinks that their opinion is the news, and that an opinion they don't like is racist / sexist / homophobic and news they don't like is fake news. So much hysteria over so little.

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Posted by Albert V. Turk on 02/21/2017 at 6:42 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Seems to me that "You and your friends" misses a crucial fact: David is a columnist; Tim is reporter.

Columnists produce opionion-based writing; reporters report facts and any personal opinions should be edited out.

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Posted by 2ndThoughts on 02/21/2017 at 5:19 AM

Re: “Mordecai Needs a Home

Hmm. Is the name a tribute to the book of Esther, "Regular Show", or one of Canada's most acclaimed novelists? Wherever this big lovable goof got his moniker, I hope he finds his forever home ASAP. :)

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Posted by Ex-Arizonan on 02/21/2017 at 5:05 AM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Does that even apply to the likes of Milo Yiannopoulos -- the senior editor of Breitbart News -- whose book "Dangerous" was just cancelled by Simon & Schuster and its Threshold Editions publishers?

Censorship in any form is a slippery slope that diminishes our individual and collective rights and freedom. We may not like what others say or write, but as Americans we must defend their rights. To do otherwise is to give in to those who would take away the rights of all.

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Posted by sgsmith on 02/20/2017 at 9:01 PM

Re: “TUSD Superintendent Firing Update: Nothing To See Here, Folks (For Now).

The Superintendent should be fired because:
1) He was not experienced enough to recognize that this is what would happen when he attempted an across-the-board reduction in class sizes in a district with the composition TUSD has. The result was a massive mis-use of federal funds and a reduction in the quality of services offered to the disadvantaged, both fire-able offenses. Sanchez has always been conspicuously underqualified and unfit for the job. He was brought in through an insufficiently transparent process that did not involve appropriate levels of community participation and his inexperience has been showing up in his mismanagement of this and other matters since Day 1. (Yes, it is appropriate to expect that the district will hire someone whose previous experience actually equips them to do a competent job in a district like this, with the characteristics this district has. Why would anyone question whether an administrator's inability to anticipate and manage the consequences of their administrative actions in the institution of which they are head would be a fire-able offense? Of course it is.
2) Credible sources have noted he was given advice about what the consequences would be, but he was too arrogant and self-willed to accept advice from people who had real experience managing districts of this size and complexity. If you are too inexperienced for the position you occupy, it's best not to reject the guidance of those who know what they are doing when they try to warn you off a dangerous course.
3). After bungling class size reduction, he did not need to outsource subs, which only made conditions worse both for the subs and for the students in the classrooms they were trying to manage.

He is incompetent and should be fired. End of story. Continuity of dysfunction in a public school district is not desirable to anyone except privatizers like our state level leadership, who clearly want to keep Sanchez in place for reasons that have nothing to do with STUDENT BENEFIT . Competent and honest leadership is what's needed. If Ducey et al. would stop colluding with Sanchez et al. to put lipstick on this very ugly pig, perhaps TUSD might have some chance of getting it.

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Posted by Yes, he should be fired. on 02/20/2017 at 6:43 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Hey David, did you notice that in the first online version of Tim Steller's piece, "Attempts to fire Superintendent roil TUSD," Steller expressed, in passing, his personal opinion that Sanchez should not retain his job? Then, a day or so after the piece originally appeared, the Star noted it had been "updated" and that opinion was no longer in the piece. It had been edited out.

You expressed your opinion in one of your recent blogs here in TW that Sanchez should remain Superintendent, and your opinion was allowed to stand in this publication. But Steller's opinion was erased from the Star. Who erased it, and why?

Is Steller less entitled to an opinion -- or to expressing it -- than you are? Is this a sinister local example of what you refer to in this blog, the press "forfeit[ing] its effectiveness [...] to our peril. Possibly the most dangerous is self censorship, where a reporter, a columnist or an editor decides an honest story is too dangerous to print because it may offend an advertiser or a community leader or a powerful politician."

I believe it is, and I've seen plenty of it since I started following the Star's battered and beleaguered attempts to provide anything resembling honest and complete coverage of the largest local school district in a context where the district's agents constantly try to undermine and trash talk their reporting. (What happened to Alexis Huicochea David? Why is she no longer covering TUSD?)

Here's my humble opinion, David: if there are in fact "benevolent powers are out there watching over us," I don't think they like you and your friends very much. Another commenter penned this apt remark on another of TW's BS TUSD stories, but it applies to the subject of this blog, media manipulations, as well: "I'm sorry Foster/Grijalva machine. we pretty much know exactly what you do. And many of us want you to stop it."

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Posted by You and your friends are supporters of the free press? on 02/20/2017 at 5:12 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Oops, that should be "fear."

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Posted by Used to be a teacher on 02/20/2017 at 4:16 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

If you truly fact-check your stories, there's no need to feat "fake news." Yeah, like that's going to happen.

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Posted by Used to be a teacher on 02/20/2017 at 4:15 PM

Re: “T.H.R.E.A.T. Watch: Bless, Keep and Protect Our Free Press

Just like the freedom of information act wanted to censor Limbaugh.
4 more years !! 4 more years!!

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Posted by CW13 on 02/20/2017 at 3:51 PM

Re: “Editors Note

I love you too. Since you obviously know me, who are you?

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Posted by CW13 on 02/20/2017 at 3:18 PM

Re: “Death in the Arizona Borderlands

I'm sorry, but can we please stop infantilizing these people? Walking through the desert, particularly in the summer and particularly in the day time, is really, really dangerous. Every Arizona school child (and probably every Sonoran school child too) knows this. It is not our fault that the Mexicans, Hondurans, Salvadorans and Guatemalans coming over the border choose to confront this obvious risk. When an Arizonan drives into a flooded wash, putting himself, his passengers, and his rescuers at risk, we do not write sob-stories about the human toll caused by our hard-hearted failure to build bridges everywhere. We do not pretend that the driver bears no responsibility for his action. In fact, we fine the driver and label them "stupid" under the law. Illegals are not children. They bear as much responsibility for the risks they assume as a stupid motorist trying to cross a flooded wash.

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Posted by Nathan K on 02/20/2017 at 3:04 PM

Re: “TUSD Superintendent Firing Update: Nothing To See Here, Folks (For Now).

So the Superintendent should be fired because of the complexities arising from his reduction of class size?

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 02/20/2017 at 2:16 PM

Re: “Best Place to Get Free Stuff

That place for free stuff is awesome too - http://getanybonus.com

Posted by Olia Gastillo on 02/20/2017 at 12:24 PM

Re: “Editors Note

Why should I sign up? Your buddies Rat and What haven't bothered to and you aren't complaining to them about that.

You got your nose jammed in the rears of plenty of people who post here that haven't signed up and they have posted under all different kinds of usernames. Rat T didn't disappear for several weeks, he just decided to post under different names during that time.

Also, I never labeled you as insignificant. A distant 3rd place isn't bad considering all the trolling that's happening on the TW site. You just need to work a little harder than Rat and What are, that's all.

P.S. -- I chuckled when you mentioned looking at old comments to see if all that is done is insulting people. That's some serious "pot calling the kettle black" stuff going on there. Thanks for the laugh dude.

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Posted by CW is really fighting to beat Rat and What at the troll game. on 02/20/2017 at 12:18 PM

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