So some members of our legislature are wanting to make it harder for the citizen to override political incompetence. Other members (Thorpe?) want to hobble student voters. This is a shameful way to govern. I personally wouldn't vote democrat, but my republican vote should not be considered guaranteed...
Thanks Nick Meyers , for a insight to attempts of forces to control Marijuana.
I believe the legislature will act on marijuana before the next legislative session when the roll of the initiative gains steam.
It is my opinion the biggest reason for the failure of 205. Was a new independent department. A new department that had tax, police, court, license powers away from the power of the legislature.
This Gorilla of a monstrous appetite with wanting a new family to feed. This department would have used the existing Felony laws as a tool.
Anyone would have to be just plain blind to think this Department would not have folded itself into each county attorneys use to tax and run the industry. It had to if they wanted police power to prosecute for felonies. DUH!
Prop 205 was NOTHING at all like how other states have legalized marijuana. This is the lie that wants to perpetuate that it was about legalization. Prop 205 was about retail market control and enforcement of the market PERIOD. MONEY !
There were so many misleading and blatant lies slick willy salesmen. If you quarried anyone of the dispensaries owner or principals of 205 how it was going to work it was always left as TBD (to be determined) so essentially nobody really knew what they were voting for.
Even that 6 plant carrot dangled was a joke. Anyone would ask how was that going to work license? inspection? sign affidavit, gain plant material, report output, buy pre tax clones? All of this was TBD that is the failure of 205 collectively.
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Nick Meyers; Interesting dimensional view of the potential marijuana/hemp revenues and markets.
Had 205 passed we would of had a negotiated medical marijuana division of the Department of Health. Much like market forces competing against one another. If we limit this, it will impact that, so we can study and divert upon need. >> SAME?
So many ask then what would be the needs. DUH! Really? Cash flow and market expansion and availability of market limit competition.
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There is no mention of all of these that have their hands in the cookie jar. Let's keep the jar called medical that is really the only way till the feds change. 205 was a market control travesty. We watch what happens in other states how it is administered through multiple existing state agencies. Not this GORILLA called the " Department of Marijuana License and Controls"
WHICH NO OTHER STATE HAS LEGALIZED I SUCH A RECLUSIVE GOVERNMENTAL SEGREGATED WAY AS 205 WANTED TO DO.
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Some good news finally....now come on Arizona. Let's get the proposition right this time in 2018.
Thank You. Nick Meyers, for reporting the the freedoms and challenges going forward in this apprehensive marijuana climate.
Well then it would be safe to say his annual medical marijuana card was worth the hassle and cost. One is to ponder what would Nadir would have done in a post 205 environment.
Would he even of had a base for defence, 205 would have gutted medical marijuana. Would this proposed " Department of Marijuana License and Controls" just be another layer of administrative input on what is impaired ?
IMHO I would say the story has a double narrative. One is the value and the need for the Medical Marijuana Program. Two the court taking into consideration the value of that program with extended rights that are attributed.
A good decision.
It is better to give an acquittal, than to convict based upon arbitrary and unproven science.
I wish that the DUI laws would go back to an impairment standard, rather than an arbitrary number, which may be valid for some, but not for others.
I think Nick Meyers is an excellent writer. His points are constructed well and his use of sarcasm is entertaining and not over the top. His articles present good arguments in favor of medical marijuana. Great job, son....
How about an article on taxed pot vs. the black market. My understanding is that here in WA there is still a thriving black market for pot because it is less expensive than the state government sanctioned product. How about researching that and addressing w corvi's response above?
And, from my perspective, I voted for legalizing marijuana for recreational use in Washington. My thought was if someone wants to get high in the privacy of their own home, go ahead. The problem is people get high where they want. The Seattle City Attorney is a regular pot user and publicly announced he would not prosecute any police citation for public marijuana use. So, nearly every where you go in downtown Seattle - there's a familiar odor in the air - walk out of a restaurant - pot; walk out of a Seahawk game - pot; leave a concert at Key Arena - pot. At least here in Seattle, it's gone a bit too far.
And with prop 205 more prisoners to the cell more money to pay them. More courts to convict, more peace officers to protect, more prisons to build more counseling to indoctrinate.
I doubt Meth Heroin, pill dealers bottom line will be affected if they can't get pot they will get booze they just want to be high.
Over 40 years in construction and management of hundreds of men at a time I have seen the mode. Drug screens, safety people insurance mandates, visits and calls from parole probation and drug counselors, requests to monitor and take responsibility. yada yada yada.
To ponder for a minute put down the blunt the Discount tire guy. Discount Tire has 900 locations for instance they average 4 cars an hour with just 2 tires and open 10 hours thats 80 tires per location @ 900 locations thats 72,000 tires a day or 432,000 a week.
So just think out of a possible half a million tires installed weekly. just how hard it would bring to suit against Discount saying the tires were installed improperly because the by a stoned guy ? As of now a Medical Marijuana Card holder is precluded from taking a job such as installing tires. This is a protection he would like to keep a million spent and tax deductable is cheap.
We have a legislature problem and a halftime penance paid to representative only allow the rich to sit at the table. Others groble to work from crappy appointments.
There is really only one side for marijuana to come down on if legalized. Continuation of the stigma of being a druggy all drugs are associated heroin, meth, marijuana, that spice stuff. That would be the result of 205
Actually, the biggest losers would be the drug dealers on the streets. Their revenue would dry up in a heartbeat.
You have to wonder how much money Corrections Corp of America (CCA) contributes to his campaign, as they are the biggest losers if marijuana is legalized.
Thanks Nick; Informative story good representation of part of the motivation of Bill Montgomery. His voter base is Sun City and Kathy Inman ( Mom Force Arizona) delivers votes.
This atrocity of proposed initiative called prop 205 was a back door to revamp all the constitution's protections citizens now have.
Both Montgomery and JP Holyoak want to, and need to dismantle the Medical Marijuana in order to increase selling their message.
Which is the same message just repackaged. Both are selling they can tackle illegal activity, children access, regulated control. In order to do this they both need the elimination of Medical Marijuana.
With the elimination of medical marijuana we need more laws, more police, and funding for them, streamlined court through administrative law throwing out protections now.
Either way Prop 205 would have delivered to both of them their wants and revenue vehicle.
Medical Marijuana and recreational are not the same. There will never be peace if keep going down this road.
Anne, I suggest you see a doctor it might help it might get some blood work and review cant hurt. Professional help on selecting strains too. And the truth of it is the increase in taxes will offset the cost of the license in 3 months for the average user.
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Not just medical marijuana programs - legal recreational also. I'm 57 and never tried marijuana until I was 35 and then didn't like smoking. Now that it is legal for recreational use (Oregon) I use it for pain, to sleep and as an alternative to alcohol which can have other health effects.
Could Be Better, I totally agree we as a whole need to confront engage in this issue.
To attack people cultures beliefs fear and hate quickly eliminates the need or the cause.
Regardless of who's in office it will take so much more to defend those . The highest thing in DC is the Washington tower it always has been or we would not be chatting about this now. The single power wielder in washington only rides the horse's name ? The direction feed saddle barn tack are called congress. If they had the ability on where they rode, it would be different today. Why so many think the name of the horse is the rider's truly bewildering.
There is only one focus here the path that the horse can travel it has to be a open field to graze take the fence down called schedule 1
Wasn't Arizona Organix in Glendale the first dispensary to open anywhere in Arizona?
Ok then it seems that the medical Marijuana program is working ?
Decreases in teenage use, controlled access monitored consumption annual doctor visits to discuss use. Where's the downside on a state level in the existing program ?
It would be ok by me to reduce the amount the state charges for a license. Or allowing/subsidizing some of the monies collected to go to doctors that follow more comprehensive program and collect non personal data for public study.
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