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Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

AZ/DC has not had a hit record in years.....oh, never mind.

Posted by Gandalf the Wit on 07/30/2016 at 1:41 PM

Re: “Review: Hillary’s America: the Secret History of the Democratic Party

So Dinesh debunked the Southern Strategy "myth?" Oh really? Here's what a couple of people who were around then had to say.

Baseball great Jackie Robinson, invited to the Convention by the office of Nelson Rockefeller, left horrified. Robinson said,
That convention was one of the most unforgettable and frightening experiences of my life. The hatred I saw was unique to me because it was hatred directed against a white man. It embodied a revulsion for all he stood for, including his enlightened attitude toward black people…A new breed of Republicans had taken over the GOP. As I watched this steamroller operation in San Francisco, I had a better understanding of how it must have felt to be a Jew in Hitler’s Germany.

Martin Luther King commented
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.

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Posted by Rocket on 07/30/2016 at 11:45 AM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

But what you haven't given a satisfactory answer to, John Huppenthal, is the question of whether promoting exit from TUSD rather than oversight and enforcement to improve it was the responsible way to deal with its failures.

Salpointe is a great school. But not every high-school-age student living within the boundaries of TUSD can attend it, even with the tax credit funded scholarships now available. Ultimately, if some combination of forces at the state and local level can't improve the functioning of TUSD to the point where it is responsibly meeting the needs of its ever-decreasing numbers of enrolled students, we're going to be failing some of the poor Hispanic kids (and poor kids of other ethnicities) in Tucson, and that is not acceptable.

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Posted by Supporting Public Ed Means Supporting Local Reform on 07/30/2016 at 10:14 AM

Re: “Tucson Sentinel Unearths Treasure Trove of Ally Miller's Emails That Demonstrate She's a Big Fat Liar

Easy to see how AVL (above) has been confused by the insinuation and innuendo posted by the ADI blog lady.

What the folks listed were doing is called - wait for it - "work".

Oh noes!

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Posted by UofAzWildkitty on 07/30/2016 at 10:06 AM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

AZ/DC- What did I say that was wrong?

Give me some logic, give me some facts. The nature of your response suggests that you know that I am tight.

I am perfectly comfortable with the browning of Arizona. My associates growing up were Marcelino Lucero, Manuel Gonzales, Luis Rodriguez, James Ortega and Richard Sanchez.

We all went to school in the highest poverty neighborhood of Tucson and we all graduated from College.

What I am not comfortable with is public officials spending hundreds of millions of dollars and failing the same poor Hispanic kids I grew up with.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 07/30/2016 at 9:40 AM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

AZ/DC

Adelita, is that you?

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Posted by What, Again on 07/30/2016 at 9:35 AM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

Wrong, Again:

Since Arizona is becoming Mexico again, maybe you should leave.

Start packing, because Arizona will be Mexico before you know it. The illegal brown man is gonna make your white ass pay.

Go far away, to a place that matches your frigid personality. Pluto would be ideal for you. It also gives those of us who are really tired of reading your nonsense a gift, since Pluto doesn't have internet access.

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Posted by AZ/DC on 07/30/2016 at 7:37 AM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

Grijalva isn't winning, she is losing - badly. Her sphere of influence is shrinking every year as her student count shrinks. Her Hispanic students are 2 years behind and every year they spend in her system, they fall further behind. Her ethnic studies are intellectual rot. The enormous resources extracted from taxpayers for desegregation are going to waste - just read the reports of the special master, they are posted on the TUSD Web site.

TUSD results are average results for a large district in America. But average doesn't cut it in Arizona. You can't have 4000 dissatisfied customers. They just leave. They have choices.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 07/30/2016 at 6:54 AM

Re: “Pima Supe Ally Miller Has a Republican Primary Challenger

Silly question... i'm young and just getting into learning about politics.... what does a pima county supervisor do anyway?

Posted by Monica Wong on 07/29/2016 at 10:39 PM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

The only 'peace' or 'solutions' you will ever see in TUSD with a Grijalva in charge is total submission.

Make Arizona Mexico Again!

Or leave. The facts show what is being chosen.

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Posted by What, Again on 07/29/2016 at 10:02 PM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

Yes, John, but how do you get to "peace" in a context like TUSD? How do you work with an existing bureaucracy like that to produce administrators who are capable of working toward "supporting teachers in their teaching function" and helping "parents feel engaged in the education of their child"? That's not where these people are.

If you can't get TUSD where it needs to go, is helping all the most concerned parents with the greatest social capital to exit the sinking ship and leaving poor children to go down on the Titanic a humane way to deal with the fact that there's a bad crew running the ship? Somehow I don't think the Carmelites would approve...but perhaps I'm wrong about that.

Peace be with you.

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Posted by Peace...? on 07/29/2016 at 8:34 PM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

Look at this thread. The tremendous stress and turmoil. Until you get to a minimum level of peace, you really can't pick up speed. We can all agree that teachers should be supported in their teaching function and that parents should feel engaged in the education of their child.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 07/29/2016 at 7:12 PM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

Focus on improving education and all the trivia, "agendas" drops away. My observation in 30 years of elected office and having done over 200 pieces of legislation is that people would rather fight over the nickel than reach down and pick up the 95 cents.

TUSD needs to measure it relationship with parents and teachers and make that measure the driving focus of its culture.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 07/29/2016 at 6:45 PM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

Pardon me for saying so, but as an Anglo parent who chose to enroll a student in a more ethnically diverse Catholic school rather than in one of the Anglo-majority TUSD schools, the term "white flight" bothers me. It seems to obscure the motive for leaving, which in every TUSD-withdrawal case I've been familiar with has NOT been seeking more racially homogeneous school communities. The motive has been to find well-managed schools that provide better educational services and better facilities.

And if TUSD admin is pandering to the 3S's and University, it's because their central administrative recruitment process seems somehow to select for a capacity to be governed by venality and self-interest. They will pander to wealth and connections wherever those characteristics concentrate themselves. They are not, in my experience, social justice warriors with a burning passion for serving the underserved, whatever form the underserved may come in -- minority and / or low income. They are stat-inflation, self-preservation, resume-building sorts. They will neglect a poor white kid just as much as a poor minority kid. Probably more so, because in the form of the desegregation authorities, they have people who are doing their best to make it harder for them to do the latter.

Thanks, by the way, Three Sonorans, for the heads up on Gallegos and the drop in the credit rating. Prompt and 100% more relevant than Safier, as usual.
http://threesonorans.com/2016/07/29/breaking-another-tusd-assistant-superintendent-resigns/
http://threesonorans.com/2016/07/29/tusds-credit-rating-drops-to-fifth-place-expect-higher-tax-rates-to-pay-back-bonds/

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Posted by Let's get the motives for leaving right. on 07/29/2016 at 4:31 PM

Re: “Tucson Sentinel Unearths Treasure Trove of Ally Miller's Emails That Demonstrate She's a Big Fat Liar

I like to call the pothole picture "Chipped Tooth Seal"

Posted by swampheel on 07/29/2016 at 3:26 PM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

We wrote about this two years ago... and explored the option of White Flight from TUSD. The correlation is amazing.

http://threesonorans.com/2014/10/02/100-mi…

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Posted by Three Sonorans on 07/29/2016 at 1:36 PM

Re: “Review: Hillary’s America: the Secret History of the Democratic Party

You don't irritate me. You amuse me. And that's MR. Turd to you.

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Posted by CW13 on 07/29/2016 at 1:27 PM

Re: “Review: Hillary’s America: the Secret History of the Democratic Party

Now it's percentages? Gad, man, you are a creeper. Truth is, I don't care who agrees with me with as long as I'm irritating a turd like you.

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Posted by Peabo on 07/29/2016 at 12:43 PM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

TUSD continues to be what it is in part because of what the state does (and does not do).

The state licenses charters and writes private school tax credits into the law, while it does not put a stop to malfeasant practices in the public districts that are now asked to "compete" with alternative schools for student enrollment. The privatizers may be looking at dysfunction in public institutions as another way of maximizing their market share, rather than the way they should be looking at it: as something they have an obligation to correct, an abuse of public funds from which regulatory and oversight agencies should protect citizens.

Huppenthal is the one who, while in the office of State Superintendent of Public Education, made robo calls to state residents letting them know public funds were available to subsidize the cost of them pulling their kids out of public schools and enrolling them in private schools.
http://archive.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20140212arizona-furor-over-huppenthal-robocalls.html

If he really wanted to serve the best interests of the poor, he would have spent his time figuring out how to use the regulatory and enforcement mechanisms at his disposal to crack down on irregularities in procurement and hiring in large urban public districts serving populations that don't have the advocacy resources more wealthy district have.

TUSD has been mismanaging its affairs in various ways for decades in ways that would never have been possible in states with more responsible regulatory systems. The state is at fault at least as much as malfeasant TUSD administrators and negligent constituents in the district.

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Posted by The state is also at fault. on 07/29/2016 at 12:34 PM

Re: “TUSD Enrollment, 2000 to 2016, Part 2

One would have to think that it would be much easier to fix TUSD that it would be to change the state. But to date in my opinion TUSD has worsened. You can't win both fights at the same time. If TUSD can't be fixed, the state is a moot point. I can't blame them for withholding additional funding to a failing school district like TUSD It only makes sense. But in a way aren't those at the state level hoping to get local change to improve the problem?

I haven't seen the state close any Tucson schools for under performance. There still has to be widespread parental support to fix this mess.

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Posted by Larry You Know on 07/29/2016 at 11:38 AM

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