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Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Hey David -

How about some coverage of wages, entitlements, and labor conditions in the businesses run by Trump and his cabinet picks, including De Vos?

Then, just to be sure you're being even-handed in your reporting -- something I know you care about -- you might include some info on wages, entitlements, and labor conditions in TUSD, making sure to include the outsourced substitute teacher labor force as well as the underpaid full time permanent teacher labor force. Don't forget to include the full amount of public funds going in management fees to ESI per month, as well as what ESI's vetting process is for the adults they recruit and put into classrooms with children enrolled in TUSD schools.

Thanks in advance for your work on this. And do keep shining a light, as Michael S. Ellegood requests, on the various ways -- and there are many of them, coming from several different political / ideological quarters at this point -- that children are getting a raw deal in American education these days.

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Posted by Yes, do keep up the selective "advocacy" for kids. on 12/05/2016 at 8:25 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Interesting commentary David Safier, and with the billionaires our populist president elect has surrounded himself with right on target. Our soon to be Secy of Ed, is not an educator nor has she attended any public schools, nor has she saved on a school board by any measure, her only qualifications for the position is that she has been a shill for private schools.
As a side note, she has already influenced education here in Arizona. our newly elected freshman legislator from LD 1 (Prescott), David Stringer, was funded by DeVos. He greatly outspend his clean elections opponent and won the election. He too is for vouchers for all.
Keep shining a light on this David!!

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Posted by Michael S. Ellegood on 12/05/2016 at 5:16 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Mother Jones,...

and into the trash this article goes.

Why are there so many communist sympathizers and wanna-be anarchists here in Tucson? What on God's earth is going on at the University of Arizona????

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Posted by Lemon Mountain Retiree on 12/05/2016 at 2:17 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

We definitely don't have to wait for you to make a complete ass out of yourself Susan.

You've already done that 3 times in this thread.

You are such a classy lady.

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Posted by Susan Hirsh puts the ass in class on 12/04/2016 at 10:16 PM
Posted by Susan Hirsh on 12/04/2016 at 9:38 PM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

The orange hate. You guys fracture me.

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Posted by CW13 on 12/04/2016 at 8:24 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Yes, Susan Hirsh, the free market, which created a situation in which affordable housing has been in short supply in the Bay Area (even in Oakland), coupled with lax enforcement of government regulations that should have helped to protect the safety of those who must rent a place to live (as opposed to owning one, which requires capital and/or higher income levels), created a tragedy in Oakland.

Don't tell me, Susan, that you favor government regulation? Rent controlled housing for lower income brackets? Raising the minimum wage, perhaps? Government enforcement of health and safety regulations?

(It seems in their sick quest to turn every current event -- even tragedies like this -- into an indictment of "liberals," some commenters can't even recognize when the arguments they make are incompatible with their standard-issue right wing talking points and corporate-manufactured ideology.)

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Posted by Frightening levels of incoherence in liberal-bashing these days on 12/04/2016 at 8:07 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

"Preliminary indications suggest the blaze was not caused by arson, but rather an electrical fire. The power went out inside the building when the fire began and the flames blocked the building's only exit, making it difficult for people inside to escape, an official briefed on the ongoing investigation told ABC News."

And Susan Hirsch is attempting to slander liberals by suggesting they started this. What a disrespectful move to all those involved.

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Posted by Susan Hirsh puts the ass in class on 12/04/2016 at 7:40 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Everybody needs to do a little soul searching when they watch those that demanded tolerance, have become completely intolerable.

And tolerance couple with total ignorance is shuffling through the burned out warehouse in Oakland where they have now found 33 bodies.

When the DA releases the facts of this tragedy you will not believe what they are about to tell you.

Government tolerance of liberals. Was this murder or suicide?

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Posted by Susan Hirsh on 12/04/2016 at 7:03 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Mr. What, Again really seems to dislike facts. A far as far can go right wing conservative who seemingly has no ideas of his own. Just another sheep in a flock of know-nothings where the only purpose for belonging is to tow the party line. Individuality and independent thought be damned! If you do any less, you've become a "progressive" liberal who might as well be sucking at the teat of Crooked Hillary and the rest of those Obama administration loving heathens. What good does having hate do you if you can't utilize it to its fullest extent?

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Posted by What, Again is the most subservient conservative sheep ever on 12/04/2016 at 6:01 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Thanks for the link, but what we'll be watching is not what's going on in Cuba, but what kind of Pudding is being served (and to whom) here in the good old U.S. of A.

There's been a lot of rejoicing among Trump supporters in the comment streams...but the reality is the pressure (and intense 24/7 media scrutiny) is now focused on the former candidate, current President-elect, who has already seen fit to admit he doesn't intend to follow through on a few key crowd-pleasing assertions made on the campaign trail.

I expect that in the months to come the attention of a sufficient number of the electorate will remain exactly where it belongs: on Trump's promise delivery and the effect of his policies on the 99%.

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Posted by The Proof will be in the Make-America-Great-Again Pudding on 12/04/2016 at 5:40 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Jeep carrying Fidel Castros ashes breaks down during funeral procession

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/04/see-the-photo-jeep-carrying-fidel-castros-ashes-breaks-down-during-funeral-procession/

There you go, 'progressives'. This is your dream for Tucson.

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Posted by What, Again on 12/04/2016 at 3:51 PM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

There's even some of us who are Canadian that know how damaging this asshat will be to our whole continent...and to the other six.

Even the penguin population in Antarctica is freaking out, more so than the scientists. You know, the scientists, the people that the Uneducated Usurper thinks have so much less knowledge than his pampered and entitled ass. It takes all kinds, doesn't it?

I want to thank Shelby, Rae Dawn, Robbi, Paris, Gilbran, Precious, Marcus and last but not least, my ace boon Cheech. We are all in this together, whether we are white, brown, black, Asian...or even a mixture of black and Asian...we are all in this together. Fight the Orange hate!

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Posted by Tommy Chong on 12/04/2016 at 11:23 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

The proof is, as they say, in the pudding. The Make-America-Great Again Pudding will have to be served to the middle and lower classes as well as the 1% in order to get this demagogue re-elected in 2020. But unless he significantly alters his policies, mindset, and modus operandi, he will not achieve benefit to the majority of people working for a living in this country.

Keep your eye on the ball, Progressives: Donnie Drumpf was elected by recruiting votes from sectors of the citizenry whose best interests he will not serve. What happens in those sectors -- with prosperity, access to and quality of educational opportunities, safety nets, health care, and economic security -- will be what needs to be observed, reported, and discussed relentlessly for the next four years.

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Posted by The Proof will be in the Make-America-Great-Again Pudding on 12/04/2016 at 11:13 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

"There's some real truth for you, whether it's in black or white."

Don't forget us brown people!

We despise Trump and his crew probably more than anybody else.

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Posted by Cheech on 12/04/2016 at 10:51 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

Shaq is only trying to make the best out of what is a bad situation.

I give him credit for that. He's always been a class act.

But even he realizes there could have been such better choices for a President-elect.

There's some real truth for you, whether it's in black or white.

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Posted by Basketball Jones be dribblin', then mama got him a basketball on 12/04/2016 at 10:26 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

It makes plenty of difference when +2 million more citizens tried to make it happen. But please, keep ignoring reality and let it smack you upside the head when you least expect it.

The Orange Devil and his minions haven't shown us just how bad it will become yet, but you just wait. It's going to serve a blind person such as yourself even worse than those of us who know what to expect.

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Posted by Johnny Unite Us is just another dumb ass sheep in Trump's flock on 12/04/2016 at 10:01 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

You're the only one not being calm. Get a clue and get a life.

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Posted by What, Again will never rise above the basement steps on 12/04/2016 at 9:33 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Keep calm and commie on, Tucson liberals, commie on.

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Posted by What, Again on 12/04/2016 at 8:54 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Hmmm, What Again - I think when you read "Theories of Surplus Value" you may have missed a couple of key points. Marx does not advocate that "instead of earning on their own" people "simply take from those that have." If you can't find the time to go to the source, you might try Googling the term "alienation of labor" or "capital in search of surplus value." See if you can find an online source of information that helps you to understand the concepts.

Just as all financial "bubbles" are destined to burst, all societies built on systemic injustice and exploitation are destined, eventually, to correct their courses. Sometimes you have to go far enough in the wrong direction that the grass roots reaction builds strength. Some speculate that that is where we are now. Sanders and Warren and others like them are continuing to build their networks. I will venture to guess that there will be no great increase in prosperity -- and no great increase in the quality of education available -- for the middle and the bottom sectors of our citizenry during the next four years. When the next election cycle rolls around, those sectors may be prepared to vote better leadership in. We'll see.

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Posted by Don't throw the name around if you haven't read the author. on 12/04/2016 at 7:19 AM

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