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Re: “We Stand Together Network

There's even some of us who are Canadian that know how damaging this asshat will be to our whole continent...and to the other six.

Even the penguin population in Antarctica is freaking out, more so than the scientists. You know, the scientists, the people that the Uneducated Usurper thinks have so much less knowledge than his pampered and entitled ass. It takes all kinds, doesn't it?

I want to thank Shelby, Rae Dawn, Robbi, Paris, Gilbran, Precious, Marcus and last but not least, my ace boon Cheech. We are all in this together, whether we are white, brown, black, Asian...or even a mixture of black and Asian...we are all in this together. Fight the Orange hate!

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Posted by Tommy Chong on 12/04/2016 at 11:23 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

The proof is, as they say, in the pudding. The Make-America-Great Again Pudding will have to be served to the middle and lower classes as well as the 1% in order to get this demagogue re-elected in 2020. But unless he significantly alters his policies, mindset, and modus operandi, he will not achieve benefit to the majority of people working for a living in this country.

Keep your eye on the ball, Progressives: Donnie Drumpf was elected by recruiting votes from sectors of the citizenry whose best interests he will not serve. What happens in those sectors -- with prosperity, access to and quality of educational opportunities, safety nets, health care, and economic security -- will be what needs to be observed, reported, and discussed relentlessly for the next four years.

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Posted by The Proof will be in the Make-America-Great-Again Pudding on 12/04/2016 at 11:13 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

"There's some real truth for you, whether it's in black or white."

Don't forget us brown people!

We despise Trump and his crew probably more than anybody else.

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Posted by Cheech on 12/04/2016 at 10:51 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

Shaq is only trying to make the best out of what is a bad situation.

I give him credit for that. He's always been a class act.

But even he realizes there could have been such better choices for a President-elect.

There's some real truth for you, whether it's in black or white.

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Posted by Basketball Jones be dribblin', then mama got him a basketball on 12/04/2016 at 10:26 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

It makes plenty of difference when +2 million more citizens tried to make it happen. But please, keep ignoring reality and let it smack you upside the head when you least expect it.

The Orange Devil and his minions haven't shown us just how bad it will become yet, but you just wait. It's going to serve a blind person such as yourself even worse than those of us who know what to expect.

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Posted by Johnny Unite Us is just another dumb ass sheep in Trump's flock on 12/04/2016 at 10:01 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

You're the only one not being calm. Get a clue and get a life.

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Posted by What, Again will never rise above the basement steps on 12/04/2016 at 9:33 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Keep calm and commie on, Tucson liberals, commie on.

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Posted by What, Again on 12/04/2016 at 8:54 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Hmmm, What Again - I think when you read "Theories of Surplus Value" you may have missed a couple of key points. Marx does not advocate that "instead of earning on their own" people "simply take from those that have." If you can't find the time to go to the source, you might try Googling the term "alienation of labor" or "capital in search of surplus value." See if you can find an online source of information that helps you to understand the concepts.

Just as all financial "bubbles" are destined to burst, all societies built on systemic injustice and exploitation are destined, eventually, to correct their courses. Sometimes you have to go far enough in the wrong direction that the grass roots reaction builds strength. Some speculate that that is where we are now. Sanders and Warren and others like them are continuing to build their networks. I will venture to guess that there will be no great increase in prosperity -- and no great increase in the quality of education available -- for the middle and the bottom sectors of our citizenry during the next four years. When the next election cycle rolls around, those sectors may be prepared to vote better leadership in. We'll see.

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Posted by Don't throw the name around if you haven't read the author. on 12/04/2016 at 7:19 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

You mean like Hillary denounced the Soros funded thugs that infiltrated Trump rallys or did you mean the way she told the rioters to stop? Winning the popular vote is like an NFL team that loses a game by a field goal, claiming the gained more yardage. It makes no difference.

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Posted by Johnny Unite Us on 12/04/2016 at 6:52 AM

Re: “We Stand Together Network

These comments deteriorate so quickly into either self congratulations or insults, missing the point of the article. Trump's gonna get his chance, but now it is up to Trump supporters to stop escalating and fuming and start calling out bad actors across the country making real threats when someone disagrees and they want to "punch him in the face." Millions voted for Trump but millions (and a couple million more) did not vote for Trump and they get to live here too.

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Posted by Could Be Better on 12/04/2016 at 6:35 AM

Re: “STD Rates in Tucson Aren't the Worst, But They Aren't the Best

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Posted by Mark Donald on 12/04/2016 at 6:06 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

So much hate. It must really suck to be you.

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Posted by What, Again should take his own advice and grow a set on 12/04/2016 at 5:15 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

The perfect Christmas gift for liberals that have lost it all - their dreams of a communist utopia where instead of earning on their own they can simply take from those that have, their political power since the Dems have nothing, and their ideology that the white male american is the cause of the worlds problems. All gone, totally repudiated by the American people.

Get some today!

Growacet is the exciting new drug for the easily offended

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Posted by What, Again on 12/04/2016 at 4:55 AM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

You folks really dont know thecsource of your problems do you?

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Posted by Susan Hirsh on 12/03/2016 at 9:36 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Hi What Again --

Curious to know if you have actually read Karl Marx.

When you can quote from (and provide well-thought out arguments for or against) a couple of important passages in "Theories of Surplus Value" or one of the other key texts, why don't you get back to us with your critique of his system of thought? (Whether or not you agree with every aspect of Marx, his crisis theory is interesting -- some would say prophetic -- when you're looking at episodes in our own history like 1929 and 2008.)

As for our poverty in Southern Arizona, that can be explained in a number of different ways. It's true some of our government institutions, including some of our public school districts, are malfunctioning, but those of us who've seen high functioning public institutions in blue states might identify different causes than you would identify. Lack of sufficient oversight and enforcement of transparency laws and lack of sufficient funding of public institutions of education which can then feed more high functioning graduates into the local economy might be a couple of key things to talk about. (It's problematic to demand increased funding without somehow guaranteeing that there will be an increase in the sort of oversight and transparency proper to institutions using PUBLIC funds, though, which is where our local branch of the "Democratic" party gets it wrong.)

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Posted by Don't throw the name around if you haven't read the author. on 12/03/2016 at 8:39 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

People like you keep others poor, because you have no concern for anyone but yourself.

Greed and selfishness will be your downfall.

Loneliness and depression shall become your "reward".

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Posted by You've done well with failure What, Again on 12/03/2016 at 8:30 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

To "The "Real World" needs REAL leadership - not De Vos"- Great job! Karl Marx would be so proud. If we could only make more people poor everything would be wonderful.

Tucson - 6th poorest in the country, proud and determined to stay that way!

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Posted by What, Again on 12/03/2016 at 7:28 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

Great post Real World/Not De Vos.

Bisbee boy has proven again and again that he has no love for those who somehow got left behind.

God forbid that people who aren't as "blessed" as he have options for their children. He would probably rather see them suffer.

Good for him. He's definitely one of Trump's people.

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Posted by Bisbee boy is not a people person on 12/03/2016 at 6:52 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

What is the "real world," Bisbee Boy?

Is that the place where some married couples with children could, if they chose, sit on their asses all day and more money than it takes to feed, clothe, house, and educate a small army would automatically flow into their bank accounts because they have sufficient stock portfolios to pay dividends? While other couples with children work 80 hours or more every week in the wealthiest country in the world and are given less than it takes to feed, clothe, house, and educate their own children? Where their local public school under-serves poor families and blames them because while working 80 hours a week they can't provide their children with the same level of support that upper middle class families where a single income is enough to support the family enables one parent to stay home and support the children's needs full time, chauffering them to and from whatever school it may be best for them to attend, open enrolling in another district's public schools or in charters or privates, engaging in expensive extracurricular activities and receiving tutoring and homework help as needed?

Is the "real world" where people with capital engage in "rent seeking," aka the search for "surplus value," areas where they can take over what were previously public services provided with no profit margin and create more endeavors that feed money automatically to the wealthy through profits and dividends, while ownership brutally suppresses labor costs and cuts off benefits to the people educating our kids, as TUSD did when it outsourced the management of the subs delivering education to children in too many of the schools in the district that serve poor families?

Ah, yes, that IS the "real world," according to those like you who are looking forward to watching Trump and Betsy De Vos "make America great again," which evidently means seeing the country return to some of the abuses witnessed here during the Gilded Age.

We need someone in the "Secretary of Education" position who is committed to bringing the public system up to decent, functioning level and who knows how to hold the private and charter system accountable for delivering quality services, for operating, like the public system, on a strictly non-profit basis, and for being transparent in how it applies the public funds made available through "choice" programs states create.

Nothing we have heard about Betsy De Vos indicates that she would be remotely capable of delivering what the American education system -- public, private and charter -- needs at this point.

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Posted by The "Real World" needs REAL leadership - not De Vos. on 12/03/2016 at 6:01 PM

Re: “Betsy DeVos Set To Join the Trump Cabinet's Billionaire Boys [and Girls] Club

David,

Why does someone's net worth have to do with your story, except to demonstrate they are successful and most probably good managers. This would, of course, make a person more qualified, at least it does in the real world. And boy, does government need a good dose of real world management!

This lady will bring a positive attitude to the department, something long lacking; a positive attitude for parent empowerment in their child's education and future. Teachers unions fear the parental power that this will bring, as the parents will "shop with their feet" - taking their kids to schools they think best and often at substantial cost in dollars and time. Where is the problem?

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Posted by Bisbee boy on 12/03/2016 at 4:52 PM

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