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Re: “The Fake News Frenzy

This is not fake news.

Obama commutes Manning sentence!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html?_r=0

The "I hate America Tour" is almost over.

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Posted by George S on 01/17/2017 at 3:15 PM

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Then you're as close minded as a clam. Why do you choose ignorance? That much of a hack?

Here are the numbers directly from the ABC website, found way, way at the bottom.

"Partisan divisions are 31-23-37 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-remains-unpopular-presidency-hand-poll/story?id=44815005

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 3:04 PM

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if zerohedge is you're only source for this, then i have nothing else to add.

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Posted by someguy on 01/17/2017 at 2:49 PM

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someguy - the lie isn't the makeup of the respondents, the blatant lie is the reporting of the results. They absolutely knew of the oversampling, did not adjust for it and reported as if it wasn't there.

This is FAKE NEWS!

Trump to Enter Office as Most Unpopular President in at Least 40 Years, Poll Finds

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 2:45 PM

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Fair enough - their names are right there on the poll. i do think news organizations that do polling like ABC, WSJ, Washington Post, NBC, FOX - all of those - are big, divided organizations where the polling is not done by journalists but by in-house or 3rd party polling experts contracted to do the research.

I do however find it hard to believe that they would make a poll with intentional bias built in. That is self-defeating,

However a president who got significantly fewer votes than his opponent is going to be unpopular going into office. That's just a numbers game.

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Posted by someguy on 01/17/2017 at 2:28 PM

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Someguy - "journalists do not make the polls"

In this case, ABC, Washington Post and CNN absolutely DID make the poll with intentional oversampling of Democrats, by a lot.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 2:15 PM

Re: “Lando Chill Drops Latest Vid ('Early in the Morning') And it's Lovely, and it Kicks Ass.

This video made me sad and realize how alone I really am, I hope I get another opportunity at love someday.

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Posted by HumanBean on 01/17/2017 at 2:14 PM

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Very well done, George. Watch how many dislikes you get now because liberals can't argue with facts.

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Posted by CW13 on 01/17/2017 at 2:09 PM

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yes, the 46th biggest trouncing ever. and california is indeed one of the 50 states.
bad polling is not fake news. it's just bad polling. all wrong, yes, obviously. all lies, no. journalists do not make the polls. they report them, and in this case, as in every election, they reported polling from a wide range of firms.
to bring this back to the actual subject of the article - the story here is not journalistic bias, but rather what the hell these polling firms can do to be more accurate. it seems like you're seeing malice or intent where there wasn't any.

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Posted by someguy on 01/17/2017 at 2:08 PM

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Obama, Democrats got 88 percent of 2008 contributions by TV network execs, writers, reporters

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/28/obama-democrats-got-88-percent-of-2008-contributions-by-tv-network-execs-writers-reporters/#ixzz4W3SjKHi0

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 2:00 PM

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A great place to start would be the admission that it is incorrect to refer to our governing model as a "democracy." We are not. We are a Constitutional Republic.

"In a republic, the government is constrained by the limitations placed on it through a constitution or charter. The term democracy is often confused with the representative democracy used in the United States. The United States is a republic, and its elected officials are bound by the protections of the constitution."

This might help. They used to teach it in 8th grade. I wonder why they eliminated it?

https://www.reference.com/government-politics/republic-different-democracy-e57d72c133a0797d

We are not mob rule. Our founders protected us from that. Thank you very much.

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Posted by George S on 01/17/2017 at 1:53 PM

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Sorry to burst your bubble some guy but popular vote means nothing, absolutely nothing. The spread in California was the only reason Hillary won the popular (see below).

He walloped Crooked Hillary in the 50 states of the United States of America, and that's the point. All the journo's and their fake news polls were preaching how he didn't have a chance, how Hillary had it all locked up, just like the fake polls put out today. All wrong, all lies. Here are the facts;

Trump - 306, Crooked Hillary - 232. A trouncing, maybe not the biggest trouncing, but a trouncing none the less.

It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/its-official-clintons-popular-vote-win-came-entirely-from-california/

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 1:51 PM

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While we're on the subject of denying facts.
Trump's electoral college win ranks 47th out of 58 elections. He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes (3rd most ever, most since before 1900).
Yup, he won the election, will be our president shortly. just don't call it a landslide. i'm not arguing politics. i'm pointing out facts.

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Posted by someguy on 01/17/2017 at 1:26 PM

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Heh, heh, heh.

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Posted by Peabo on 01/17/2017 at 1:21 PM

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The numbers don't lie. But liberals deny the facts. And you lost an electoral landslide. So keep on, keepin on. You've lost all power at state and federal level. Enjoy the next eight years.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 1:17 PM

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3 days and counting, Peabrain. I suggest you get a deck of cards and deal with it.

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Posted by CW13 on 01/17/2017 at 1:17 PM

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Nice try, comrade. Zero Hedge = Putin groupies.

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Posted by Peabo on 01/17/2017 at 1:05 PM

Re: “U.S. Rep. Grijalva Won't Be Attending the Trump Inauguration

And many more aren't. I don't suppose you'd consider going back there.

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Posted by CW13 on 01/17/2017 at 11:38 AM

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Major media outlets are knowingly lying to the American people to advance a liberal agenda, example of it just today. Regardless of what agenda they are advancing, they should not be, the institution and industry is dishonest. They are in collusion with a political party.

"ABC/Washington Post and CNN are out with a pair of polls on Trump's favorability this morning that sport some of the most egregious "oversamples" we've seen. The ABC/Wapo poll showed an 8-point sampling margin for Democrats with only 23% of the results taken from Republicans..."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-17/new-abc-wapo-poll-shows-drop-trump-favorabilty-through-aggressive-oversamples

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 11:35 AM

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"journalists are the ones who maintain your Fourth Estate and are ultimately the glue that keep your democracy intact"

No they don't, not anymore. They are one and the same with the Democrat party, more specifically they are almost ALL liberals graduating from liberal indoctrination centers.

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Posted by What, Again on 01/17/2017 at 11:24 AM

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