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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Guest Commentary

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Mr. Workman, I would also like to remind you the articles that I have written in support of Resolution Copper reflect my opinion not theirs. Responsible development of our nation's resources benefits all Americans., including those who oppose the project.

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Posted by David Briggs on 07/10/2015 at 10:35 AM

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Mr. Tim Workman, with regard to your statement that the repeal has nothing to do with past injustices, have you actually read H.R. 2811?

Here is quote from page 3 of H.R. 2811:

"The Tonto National Forest in which Oak Flat is located was established in 1905 from the ancestral homelands of the Tonto Apache and other American Indians who were forcibly removed at gunpoint from the Oak Flat area and other areas of the Tonto National Forest by the United States Army in the 1880s and imprisoned in other areas, including what is now the San Carlos Apache Reservation, located approximately 15 miles from Oak Flat, where Apaches were held as prisoners of war until the early 1900s. "

Here is another quote from page of 4 of H. R. 2811:

American Indian tribes have ceded or have had taken from them millions of acres of land to help build the United States and have suffered under Federal assimilationist policies that sought to destroy tribal cultures. Despite these policies, American Indians continue to practice their religions as they have done for thousands of years. American Indian places of worship, or sacred areas, are often land based, including mountains, streams, and trees. As a result of previous Federal land policies that resulted in the significant loss of lands of American Indian tribes, many sacred areas of tribes are now located on Federal lands.

I strong suggest you read H. R. 2811. Here is the link.

Link
https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr2811/BILLS-114hr2811ih.pdf

David Briggs

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Posted by David Briggs on 07/09/2015 at 10:59 PM

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Please define "dawn of time." Weren't the Navajo and Apaches the last Native Americans to arrive in the desert southwest only shortly before the Spaniards? Prospectors and miners are part and parcel of Arizona Territorial and state history, just as are the Native Americans of many different groups. I love how Mr. Workman thinks Apaches are some uniform entity. Wow! Patronizing.
Miners, geologists, engineers, metallurgists, and environmental professionals (including Native American professionals) are working to secure our technology future in the least damaging methods possible here in the U.S. Want to push all that mineral development to some South American, Asian, or African country so you don't have any impact of your lifestyle in your back yard? Who and what will be impacted by your actions?

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Posted by SilverSaguaro on 07/09/2015 at 10:17 PM

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Flake and McCain must be voted out of office a.s.a.p. Here is a link to a photo essay about a protest at Flake's Tucson office back in February 2015: http://ricardosmall.smugmug.com/PROTEST/Oa…

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Posted by Ricardo Small on 07/09/2015 at 4:50 PM

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Would you expect that they have no opinion? My thought was that are are very few in this fight that have any money invested. Unless I was unaware of others involvement in it.

We have historically waded through claims of ancient holy lands to be given "casino appropriate status" for years. Odd that few fight casinos.

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Posted by David W on 07/09/2015 at 4:23 PM

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OK, I'll bite. Thank you for the extra links, Mr. Briggs. Thank you also for reminding us that the mining company has an opinion on the Oak Flat acquisition.

In reference to your article and curious non-argument "Dwelling on our past," I only have to say that the repeal has nothing to do with "past injustices," as you emphasize, and everything to do with present injustices. The past injustices (no mention of Apache wars) in the repeal appear to have legal consequences, and serve to draw out the fiduciary duty of the government mentioned in subsequent paragraphs.

Thanks,

TW

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Posted by Tim Workman on 07/09/2015 at 3:20 PM

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As I am sure that you are aware there are always two sides to the issues. To learn more about Oak Flat visit the following links:

Apaches Question Actions of their Leadership
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2015/07/08/apaches-question-actions-of-their-leadership/

America Needs to Move Forward Instead of Dwelling on Our Past
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2015/07/05/america-needs-to-move-forward-instead-of-dwelling-on-our-past/

Congressman Grijalva Attempts to Undermine Our Economy and National Security
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2015/06/22/congressman-grijalva-attempts-to-undermine-our-economy-and-national-security/

Resolution Copper - Setting the Record Straight about Oak Flat
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2015/06/09/resolution-copper-setting-the-record-straight-about-oak-flat/

David Briggs

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Posted by David Briggs on 07/09/2015 at 8:11 AM

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Totalitarianism is where this thinking is headed. Agree with me or be destroyed. What has caused this? Hate?

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Posted by David w on 07/09/2015 at 6:05 AM

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Smeakfuck? Is that a technical or political term. All this article proves is how much trouble religion causes everyone.

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Posted by Jim Kelly on 07/09/2015 at 5:40 AM

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Sorry, factual error. Hobby Lobby filed several years after Navajo, not a year.

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Posted by Tim Workman on 07/09/2015 at 3:35 AM

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John Warnock's statement is a well thought out statement, and the clear unvarnished truth. He said " but we and the city surely have an obligation to be alert for such opportunities, and to support local institutions like the Inn when we are able." The way that happens is to get out there at election time and vote. Make your voice heard! It's not going to happen without you!

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Posted by PVK on 07/03/2015 at 8:13 PM

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Thank you larryd for the link and Prof Warnock for your work as well. Interesting read. So much history in Tucson that gets lost as the years pass.

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Posted by doggirl on 07/03/2015 at 6:59 PM

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Eat dinner there twice a week, have your out of town visitors stay there for a week and get involved in capitalism. They might survive.

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Posted by David w on 07/03/2015 at 6:44 PM

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Eat dinner there twice a week, have your out of town visitors stay there for a week and get involved in capitalism. They might survive.

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Posted by David w on 07/03/2015 at 6:44 PM

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A sad irony here is that Arizona Inn appears to have sold the land to developers because it needed the money to preserve itself. One historical treasure has been destroyed to preserve another. The Arizona Inn is without question one of Tucson's historical treasures and the challenges of keeping it going and true to its history are, I suspect, all too easily underestimated. Ideally, a way would have been found to save both, perhaps to enhance both in the process. It's possible to work at something like this only if the opportunity is given, but we and the city surely have an obligation to be alert for such opportunities, and to support local institutions like the Inn when we are able.

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Posted by John Warnock on 07/03/2015 at 4:39 PM

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At the request of a reader, I found the links to two articles in the Arizona Daily Star.

http://tucson.com/across-the-street-from-t…

http://tucson.com/news/opinion/column/gues…

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Posted by larryd on 07/03/2015 at 1:50 PM

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Do u have a direct link to the article--did a search and no results.

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Posted by doggirl on 07/03/2015 at 1:29 PM

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Yesterday I was finally able to find time to read the 15 page article, written by UA English Department Professor John Warnock, which is available at tucson.com online. The article, an expanded version of one published in the Arizona Daily Star, a month ago, tells the history of the Kramer house and the surrounding Potter property. A really good read!!

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Posted by larryd on 07/03/2015 at 12:29 PM

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The human disease of desire for wealth and more than is required will always overcome the understanding of the importance of protection and value of the past. The battle of intellect over protection of the individual through obtaining wealth or items of value will be contentious as long as we exist, as we are animal with animal instincts. Never to be free from this reality. Fight to live, Live to fight, OR DIE..........

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Posted by mboston on 07/03/2015 at 11:36 AM

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I used to know people who lived in the Kramer home 40 years ago. That was a fantastic piece of property. It's sad to know that it will no longer exist as it once did.

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Posted by PVK on 07/02/2015 at 7:57 AM

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