If the Sierra Club wanted to actually do something constructive, they'd come out forcefully against illegal immigration and help put an end to this insanity. Short of that, the entire planet will be overrun with hordes of unwanted humanity, and what little damage is occurring on the border will remain insignificant.
I'm going to start minting my own coins, so I can buy the guns put back on the market.
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"I prefer to view the FBI crime stats as everything that comes out of Chicago is spun to fit the liberla agenda."
Unlike yourself, I provided a link to back my assertion. Thus far, all I smell is smoke coming out of a fetid orifice from you.
Wise-guy: I prefer to view the FBI crime stats as everything that comes out of Chicago is spun to fit the liberla agenda. The FBI for the most part doesn't cave to special interests.
Loophole? That’s what the gun show is a loophole? Gunophobia is alive and well in Tucson! Ignorance guiding actions taken without supporting statistics, quite like Homophobes banning Homosexuals from being scout masters, common sense that makes no sense in statistical logic. 1.9% of the trade show guns across the country are used in crimes, this leaves 98.1% of the guns acquired by other means used for the rest? I was at a dinner the other night with a table of gunophobes talking about this and that all “common sense” driven by media bias of course no statistics to support any of what was being said just heads bobbing in unison like programmed zombies, the modern voter it seems. Finally I had enough and said “well if we want to really make a dent in this issue taking away my right to shop for a defense weapon at a gun show in Tucson isn’t how to do it, why don’t we ban Black males who represent 7% of the U.S. population but commit 60% of the violent crime from owning guns, seems like a more direct action we could take!” You could have heard a pin drop, the rather loud lady who was driving the conversation barely missed a beat as she said “you can’t do that, you cannot punish and take away the rights of those who don’t cause problems to solve problems created by others that is Un-American, not to mention racist!” I looked her in the eyes and said “exactly my point, now you know how I feel about this action you are taking banning ME from buying a defense weapon because of the actions of others, of course we should not single out Black males and of course it is because you cannot make a sweeping law that lumps everyone together as a potential criminal but that is exactly what you are doing!” As those loud and uninformed usually do she sputtered a few unintelligible words then became silent.
This is ignorance driving common sense, typical emotion driven action, no stats to back up the action, Steve who I support should be embarrassed taking the lead in this witch hunt type mentality sweeping the country, politics instead of real solutions as usual. Mental health should drive this issue not gun show control, insanity on display!
Local business owner.
"Look at Chicago, NYC and Washington DC, they have the strictest gun laws in the country and the highest gun related crime rate, more restrictions do not work. "
In 2012 there were 7 cities with much fewer gun restrictions that had higher rates of gun deaths (than Chicago). Unclear what the poster means by "gun related crime" or where his statistics come from.
"Criminals do not go to gun shows anyway."
Bullshit. I recently sat on a jury that convicted a person of making straw purchases at two local gunshows. BTW it was the background checks that tripped him up.
The "gun show loophole" is a catchy phrase that the media and the gun control folks love to use. However, the reality is quite different.
There are very few private sales that happen at gun shows, as the private sellers generally have an overpriced product if it is a modern weapon. The few that I see are antiques or collector's items.
Criminals do not go to gun shows anyway.
Another knee jerk reaction. Bad folks will always find a way to obtain a firearm. Look at Chicago, NYC and Washington DC, they have the strictest gun laws in the country and the highest gun related crime rate, more restrictions do not work. Why are you penalizing law abiding citizens for the crimes of the few knuckleheads out there? I have grieved over the senseless deaths due to unbalanced people finding a way to obtain firearms illegally, including a loved one. This is not the answer.
If I have to have background to purchase at Second Amendment someone should have to at the gunshow -- but if I want to buy or trade with my friend/neighbor it is MY BUSINESS
Laughing at the folks running our city, Do they really know what they are doing?
Can anyone tell me if you have not done anything wrong and there was no reason for a cop to pull you over, can the cop scan your plate then pull you over for lapse insurance? Is this not profiling if you have not broken any laws to have them have a reason to scan your plate.
And just how many license plate scanners ARE THERE in Tucson?
Mr. Bill Gates and his Gates Foundation should be smiling today as 11 more public schools get the axe. No doubt he is waiting in the dark alley somewhere ready to pull out 11 new charter schools to take their place. The dismantling of our public education system is well on its way to success thanks to people like Judge Bury. (An ironically appropriate name since he is helping to "bury" the public schools.)
Waiting for a "superhero" judge to approve the continued attempts to bankrupt the entire school system? Newsflash: That's why there is a judge involved in the first place.
Actually, the first Vail incorporation effort came BEFORE Tucson annexed within six miles of "Vail." I was one of the petition carriers in that failed attempt. The only reason most people wanted to incorporate back then was to avoid being annexed by the city of Tucson. The same still holds true for me. The people now planning to incorporate do not include my section of Vail, for some reason. Once, if and when they do incorporate, that would protect me from Tucson and then I would fight to be included in any future annexation by Vail.
The policies of the Arizona Game & Fish Dept reflect the politic of appointed commissioners, who generally have priorities other than wildlife. Arizona and other states have their governors appoint people to multi-member boards and commissions that govern state agencies. The contrast is that some state agencies are managed by one (often professional) commissioner or superintendent, also politically appointed. From what I've observed and been told about Arizona's agencies, the one person leader and policy maker performs way better than multiple-member boards and commissions. Case in point is the AZGF Dept. I am more familiar with the Arizona Board of Appraisal, which for all intents and purposes would accomplish just as much if it didn't exist at all. I used to be familiar with the G&F Commission back in the 1970s, when destructive acts by irrigated agriculturists and grazers were supported by the Commission with a member related to a farmer in the Wellton Mohawk Irrigation District and the grazing allotment owner on the Kofa Game Range.
My ranch is at the foot of Apache Pass.A lot of up and down...50 miles of the middle of nowhere.Two months ago one of these armed mooks shot a big buck 50 yards from the road and chopped it's head off and left the rest.On the other hand the rough terrian brings old school bow hunters that hike in and out..skilled and polite,for every one of them there are 10 drunken assholes that got a late tag and have no knowledge of the area.One of them shot my metal gorilla sculpture last year,5 new bullet holes in my barn from idiots shooting down a blind draw in the last 3 years,holes in the windmill because they were locked out and got mad,late night Atv racing to town to get beer,drug smugglers picking up backpackers on the flats tearing up the flats....I say limit the shit out of those fucking things!
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