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Re: “The People’s Weed

Jason Medar, thanks for your efforts.
While I disagree with a formation of a department with no constraints on who or how the formation of this board will happen beginning with a governor appointment of a tenured bureaucrat. This is called out in the initiative . The rest of the board made up with regards to political affiliation and industry representatives. To me is lame and not quantitative to the user but cultural boundaries.

I agree the prohibition is the vehicle that moves the criminal machine. With legalization the economic upheaval it will have on the criminal money conduit will be devastating. Just think of what that will do to so many that profit off it now on both sides of the law. What prosecutorial tools will be used if more felonies became void? Just think of the amount of personal injury cases being filed if the criminal plea bargain dries up.

I honestly believe the DEA will change the denotation of the scheduling of Cannabis from a schedule 1 under the "controlled substance act" is and can not longer apply. What happens when the Feds say there are medical treatments we are allowing and chronic pain is not one of them? Just what position does this put the newly appointed board? If the Feds put forth a new scheduling rating including medical. But limiting the parameter on what is considered a therapy will states still be allowed to sell Schedule II drugs as recreational?

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Posted by Carpet Bagger on 04/15/2016 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Day at the Track

I am so tired of soccer invading and destroying recreational facilities built for other sports. They destroyed Kino Stadium, they are trying to destroy Rillito...go away soccer. Youth soccer: a way for kids to do long term damage to their brains by using their undeveloped craniums to hit a ball. Child abuse.

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Posted by Edward Morris on 04/15/2016 at 1:00 PM

Re: “The People’s Weed

For comparisons sake:

MPP's "CRMLA" Initiative only guarantees that the EXISTING Arizona Medical Marijuana Dispensaries will be given any of the new recreational Marijuana Dispensary Licenses and/or Marijuana Cultivation Licenses!!

MPP's "CRMLA" Initiative makes it a CLASS 4 FELONY with a Mandatory Prison sentence, for anyone to sell Marijuana without a Marijuana Dispensary License!

So if "Steve Smith" wants to sell Marijuana in Arizona, but he doesn't currently own a Medical Marijuana Dispensary in AZ, he simply won't be able to get a recreational Marijuana Dispensary License under MPP's "CRMLA" Initiative.

Sadly, people like "Steve Smith" won't be able to sell Marijuana legally, so he will have to continue selling Marijuana illegally on the Black Market for $400/Ounce..

Remember, the Black Market can NEVER end so long as somebody wants to sell Marijuana, but they are unable to get a Marijuana Dispensary License.

Since MPP's "CRMLA" Initiative makes it a FELONY for someone to sell Marijuana illegally, the street value of Marijuana will remain high and as such, "Drug Dealers" will continue to have a great financial incentive to sell Marijuana on the Black Market.

Obviously, 93 Marijuana Dispensaries could not possibly service 500,000 Marijuana consumers in Arizona.

And obviously, 93 Marijuana Cultivators could not possibly grow enough Marijuana to supply 500,000 Marijuana consumers in Arizona.

Yet, MPP's "CRMLA" Initiative is putting the entire Arizona Marijuana Market into the hands of 93 people?!?!?

Under MPP's "CRMLA" Initiative, the Black Market will THRIVE as Marijuana consumers quickly realize that the Marijuana Dispensary Oligopoly isn't providing them with quality product at a fair price.

As a result, more and more Marijuana consumers will find themselves subjected to FELONY prosecutions under MPP's "CRMLA" Initiative.

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Posted by Jason Medar on 04/15/2016 at 11:37 AM

Re: “The People’s Weed

AZFMR's Initiative allowing for 1,600+ Marijuana Dispensary Licenses WILL put an end to the Black Market Marijuana activity!!!

Marijuana is only sold on the Black Market by "Drug Dealers" because of the insane amount of PROFIT they make selling it.

Why does Marijuana currently sell for $400/Ounce on the street in Arizona? 2 Reasons:

1) Marijuana is not available to purchase is a retail setting.

2) The Penalty for selling Marijuana on the street is a Class 4 Felony and in some cases, includes a MANDATORY Prison sentence. That high amount of RISK equates to a high profit margin for the "Drug Dealer."

AZFMR's Initiative allows for 1,600+ retail Marijuana Dispensaries throughout Arizona.

AZFMR's Initiative makes it a MISDEMEANOR to sell Marijuana on the street without having a Marijuana Dispensary License.

So in AZFMR's Initiative, anyone who wants to sell Marijuana will be able to purchase a Marijuana Dispensary License in order to sell Marijuana legally.

Remember, the Black Market can NEVER end so long as somebody wants to sell Marijuana, but they are unable to get a Marijuana Dispensary License.

By reducing the Penalty for illegally selling Marijuana to a MISDEMEANOR, the street value of Marijuana will drop SIGNIFICANTLY under the AZFMR Initiative and as such, "Drug Dealers" will no longer have any financial incentive to sell Marijuana.

Let us ask ourselves; Why don't these "Drug Dealers" sell 12-packs of Budweiser and packs of Marlboro cigarettes?

It's simple. Alcohol and Tobacco are available in 1,600+ retail stores and the Penalty for selling these substances without a valid License is a MISDEMEANOR.

In short, AZFMR's Initiative is the ONLY Initiative in Arizona that is seeking to ACTUALLY end the Black Market Marijuana activity.

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Posted by Jason Medar on 04/15/2016 at 11:08 AM

Re: “The People’s Weed

As an additional note to those interested in ballot subjects. In 2015, there was at least $30B in Marijuana sold and consumed in the United States. At least $5B of that was legal, mostly medical marijuana. These numbers are growing 10%+ per year. They have been without any legal/law changes. 15 million plus people use marijuana at least weekly if not daily and almost half of adults have tried it. More than half (61%) the population supports “legalization” although 75% of those qualify that with heavy regulatory or Doctor/Medical criteria. Less than 10% are really opposed to zero legal use. Those people are concentrated where legal use is so, 15 to 20% of the people in 23 State and DC are monthly/weekly/daily users of marijuana.
I ask you some simple questions based on the above facts:
1. Are cars piling up on the roadways because of stoned drivers? Don’t give me the data argument. With 20% of the population and higher concentration of younger drivers and tests about driving stoned….even what we know from the States now. PS, we do not ask or do special data fields for driving while texting or organ donation deals but the data and studies are done with population data.
2. ER rooms filling up? Don’t you think we would know this already if it was a problem? Don’t give me the potency speech either. Home grown has been at that potency for 40+ years. Brownies and hashish have been around longer than toking. Go to pre-1937 medical books.
3. Kids do more? BS. Stuff is passing in States where use is already higher in teens and with popularity at 61% and the internet, TV and etc. Laws are with incarceration and everything else, well, laws are sucking. No one directly dies. Call the FDA and CDC. Sugar is addicting at higher rates. McDonald’s kills more people and they aren’t schedule by the DEA or even regulated by the FDA much. Kid’s are going to do what they do and we should keep it under 21. Sell against it and control advertising.
4. Where’ the War on Prescription Drugs?
5. We do drug studies with 100s and 000s of folks for a few months and declare victory with death rates. I could care less about exact statistical method, I can tell you if global warming science works, vaccines and GMOS along with nuclear weapon protocols, we could probably figure out some math. Huge users around a lot of people I dozens of states with zero direct deaths and indirect deaths less than aspirin. Side effect? I think I could get sample rates out of the population sample. I think we just need to want to know or already really do.
6. People making money in prohibition are like horse carriage makers or coal miners and etc. They are just going to have to go do something else. Fast. This lingering around the issue is bs.
7. Why are we trying to make this herbal medicine a drug? It is insane to take a natural plant and medicine and try and make it conform to a prescribed drug. You can’t overdose on it. This is very bad to even warrant the potential control of government, pharma and business into. This is an herb, plant.
8. If we removed all court ordered or trouble abated rehab for marijuana, how many cases of “addiction” are there a year? Schizophrenia with heavy marijuana use prior to onset? That list could go on and we could get info with CDC involved as they can get absent HIPAA info. That cuts a lot of BS and biased study. There are 15 million plus users daily/weekly. There would be a crisis if those rates were really real. The crisis is often self-built. Make rehab mandatory to get out of dumb DUID rap or bad grow bust.
So, what is it we have to study? What is it we really have to know? Do we really need to study? Do we know what stops us from studying? Who do we think is going to study and what? This Study stuff is BS.

Too many people do not take the time to update themselves. To want the answers and thus get subjected to a bunch of old or biased theocracy or hyperspace hypocrites.

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Posted by Darrell Beitel on 04/15/2016 at 11:00 AM

Re: “The People’s Weed

It does not take a rocket scientist or more than rational person to realize what we have with prop 203 MMJ is dumb and does not work. Neither of these ballot measures is going to do away with the black market. They so not allow with enough supply to deal with existing demand. Period. The market in AZ for Marijuana is between $1 and $2B currently. At a price less than half what the dispensaries charge. That is with less tax than what is in these measures. Just look at CO with over 1000 locations and pricing less than 1/2 AZ. $1B in volume and growing. The demand and use is already there. Making it more legal does not change that.

Politically, if marijuana people argue , the rest of the folks say "if they cannot agree, why should we?". That is just as stupid for progress. No matter how righteous or right. The best plan is to get both on the ballot. Vote yes for both. Deal with the right regulations for concerns.

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Posted by Darrell Beitel on 04/15/2016 at 10:39 AM

Re: “The People’s Weed

I would like to say Maria did a fantastic job representing both sides and cudo to her thanks .

Anybody that won't go into a question and answer forum leading these initiatives cannot be trusted. Not a released statement or a pre agreed topic narrow parameters. lets get the ones into a debate how about it Jim Nintzel. Not a interview but a real question and answer possible?

I spent 2 months in Seattle well just east on a Island Mercer. Retired was asked to come up for some review of construction techniques and work up a schedule.

In being up there I can say the quality and the effort to obtain. Was much easier and just about 20 minutes other areas less than 5 minutes. It was interesting all the products that were sold for recreational were prepackaged and tested for 15 types of fertilizer/insecticide contamination associated with the Tobacco and USDA industry no guessing game there. Also the percentages of CBD THCA, THCV, THC, CBN were labeled on every package. What was also interesting it was Brand name. All dispensaries carried just about all the same Growers line maybe 30 different brands. Brands carry a huge amount of strain lines and the steady supply of a strain is limited if looking for high thc. I purchased a Dutch Treat with a 34.4% thc brought home to show other patients. And it is that kind of supply limited to certain dispensaries. I dont follow concentrates couldn't comment.

The price compared between Tucson and Seattle with a 45% tax with excise included. I would say Seattle recreational market is about 15% lower than the Medical in Tucson. On the medical side the Dispensaries are about 1/3 the price of Tucson Medical not prepackaged some mix like an apothecary. Not all product come from within the state, they have allowed outside product as well as investors. Overall I would say the product supply cost exceeded Arizona in every way.

It became abundantly clear that the Arizona Dispensary Association is not aligned to follow any of these progressive models but to build one of their own. A department of crony capitalism to limit supply limited investors, limit testing, artificially hold prices.

If you vote for this MPP your have to be one of the biggest fools that ever bought a blunt. Either MPP or AZMFR both call for a Department of license and controls. We dont this department to protect market with criminal and civil confiscations possible. How is it these buffoons that wrote this piece of garbage. Called Regulated like Alcohol going to staff this agency simple, get the bureaucrats retired police and the such. This is a set up like no other seen in Arizona. Build a police judicial license revenue disbursement of funds on and on and on. to sell pot and limit the supply.

It has been said the DEA will change the classification of cannabis in the next 3 months. It seems that Cannabis does not meet the Controlled Substances Act. Several pending legal suits have forced this action it will not be a national political issue defused.

What does that mean for the industry ,that in Arizona ride under the umbrella of Medical. They know that is going away They spent their monies on putting more tentacles into prohibition. The Dependent person forced to go into the black market maintained by this Crony dept. A Colorado dept of Revenue study over 3 years found that of the population 35% used marijuana. Of those small percentages about a third consumed about 80% of the product or 9% of the total population. This would be a idea of a collective view of what the prospective market in AZ would look like. Of that 9% of dependent users is where the black market would find a existence.

The fight is not over users it is just a new chapter a new profiteer a new zealot. Just think in 2 years the ADA has been able to put 4 million into this Sham of a proposal, build a business buy install facilities. The initial capitol investment has been paid for so the infrastructure complex has already been built for by the Arizona patient. Why is the Arizona patient continuing to pay for this initial up start ?

I vote keep the status quo going you 9% of the dependent have to be the voice of reason and concern. I believe in the AZFMR initiative over the MPP sham. It takes in considerations of the user the ones that no longer want to be hidden for past activities it doesn't want to profit off them. If close I will vote for them watching.

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 04/15/2016 at 9:32 AM

Re: “Smugglers' Paradise

Nice analysis ! I was enlightened by the info , Does someone know where I can access a fillable a form copy to work with ?

Posted by Ellilou Fabs on 04/15/2016 at 7:11 AM

Re: “The People’s Weed

If it does not say #LEGALIZATION, then it's NOT legalization.

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Posted by Jason Hein on 04/14/2016 at 11:14 PM

Re: “Mensa mini-quiz

Sorry "Mensambr", lease is right and you're definitely wrong. Palomino is the color of the horse. Here's wikipedia's entry on it. "Palomino is a coat color in horses, consisting of a gold coat and white mane and tail. Genetically, the palomino color is created by a single allele of a dilution gene called the cream gene working on a "red" (chestnut) base coat."

Posted by awkwardddd on 04/14/2016 at 10:55 PM

Re: “Mensa mini-quiz

I've taken the WAIS test and find it to be considerably more accurate than this. Frankly, this is nonsense. The test is extremely biased and completely excludes people from other countries. It also relies heavily on previously gained knowledge, that's not how you test intelligence. Someone who happens to love horses can get an extra point over someone who has zero interest in horses. That's ridiculous.

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Posted by Gottabeajoke on 04/14/2016 at 10:50 PM

Re: “The People’s Weed

Rob Kampala of the MPP would like to have a nice chat with the people against his initiative, but he is to busy giving "breast massages" to his employees. Google it.

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Posted by Mjalltheway on 04/14/2016 at 10:10 PM

Re: “The People’s Weed

Ic69hunter,

You can sign the AZFMR Petition at any of the locations on this Map: http://legalizemarijuanainarizona.org/sign-the-petition/

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Posted by Jason Medar on 04/14/2016 at 6:43 PM

Re: “Deported Father

Cesar is my Brother and a great father. If anyone should be affored the opprotunity to get his life back on track its Cesar. My prayers are with you and your family. Rufus

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Posted by Rufus Mincey on 04/14/2016 at 10:12 AM

Re: “The People’s Weed

Where can I find an AZFMR initiative to sign?

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Posted by lc69hunter on 04/14/2016 at 8:49 AM

Re: “The People’s Weed

"This is telling children they should smoke marijuana like alcohol," Leibsohn says

No, no it's not. Did legalizing gay marriage make more people turn gay? Laws are not intended as teaching tools.

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Posted by bslap on 04/14/2016 at 6:52 AM

Re: “The People’s Weed

I will always support fewer legal hurdles to enjoying and consuming a naturally growing substance, but why are there laws governing its use in the first place? Do we regulate wheat? Wheat has many proven effects on humans, probably moreso than marijuana, but there isn't any national hue and cry over its use.

Why?

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Posted by Gonzo Sorcrachi on 04/14/2016 at 5:03 AM

Re: “Day at the Track

Geez, not a word about me. Must be losing my touch !!

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Posted by CW13 on 04/10/2016 at 3:50 PM

Re: “Day at the Track

What, Again...your handle should be What an Idiot.

Tucson...5th poorest city in the country, and What an Idiot must be DAMN proud of it. This sad excuse for humanity mentions this "fact" every other time they post.

And the "illegals"? If I were to believe What an Idiot, I can't walk 5 feet without bumping into one. Well, guess what, like everything else this maroon (thanks Looney Tunes!) says, it's obviously exaggerated to the point that it is now untrue and this blowhard has more than lost their credibility.

Go away, just as Old Pueblo Independent/Old Pueblo Veteran/Desert Patriot/whatever this one person is calling themselves these days has. (Praise the Lord!) Heck, you probably are all the same LOSER keyboard athlete typing from your mom's basement. Please, just go away.

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Posted by AZ/DC on 04/10/2016 at 1:18 PM

Re: “Day at the Track

Under fascist liberal rule for decades, Tucson is a dump and doesn't deserve the sport.

5th poorest city in the country, and DAMN proud of it.

More soccer fields? For whom, the overwhelming majority of children in Tucson are illegals.

Oh, I forgot, that IS the dream - to be just like Meheeecooo and all subjects to the Grijalva's and the white guilt liberals that hate America.

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Posted by What, Again on 04/10/2016 at 8:40 AM

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