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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: Medical MJ

Re: “In Defense of Marijuana

I find this amazing but also expected. As an advocate and driver for several years in Colorado, I now am in AZ and becoming up to speed and active here. Many of these things have been fought and resolved in CO with similar issues but different exact laws. The argument in court premise is the same.

I find the law basis here and set up very odd and in need of work. The legalization efforts are good but the medical still needs to get cleaned up as even legal will not fix the need for a good medical system and access need. The entire co-op and group grow thing as well as what CO tries with "Seed to sale" and plant tagging are absurd ways to get what should be "wholesale commercial grows" or "true individual grow needs" of a simple plant.

Some thoughts:
You may also want to consider that this is Medical Marijuana and the folks who were in this grow with you have HIPAA Rights. You could and should have set up and based your files on that. The firearm is an issue if there was ammunition regardless of the safe if the Feds are pressing any charges and they can press that for plea. No one should ever have a loaded firearm anywhere near marijuana as long as the "war on drugs" continues. There are some great resources in CO and WA that you may want to reach out to as AZ legal resources are weak. Rob Corey an attorney there or Michelle Lemay of Cannabis U can be of help with your plight I would bet or refer you to others here they know.

Good luck.

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Posted by Darrell Beitel on 10/15/2015 at 11:17 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

Well it looks like another boone doogle of government protection for profit. So MPP has joined up with the likes of Joe Arpaio to rewrite the marijuana with stiffer felony penalties for really simple possession. Old sheriff Joe spent 17 years running the DEA in Mexico before running for sheriff. Now sheriff Joe has Teamed up with the dispensaries to try and do just the same here in Arizona. Here is Sheriff Joe being guest speaker at a Sun City elderly forum to pass MPP's proposal and promote marijuana to the elderly. So if you have a day watch sheriff Joe promote on one hand and the next day talk about the evils. Is this really the kind of oversight we want in the Medical Marijuana program.

Go to Sun City and watch sheriff Joe promote his new market endeavors.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/ej-montini/2015/10/07/montini-sheriff-joe-arpaio-medical-marijuana/73543318/

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 10/15/2015 at 3:07 AM

Re: “In Defense of Marijuana

Arizona Medical Marijuana Act. Card Holders are Being VIOLATED by The State of Arizona. The Media's Presence and COURT SUPPORT IS NEEDED for the Arizona Medical Marijuana Act.
Arizona Superior Court in Pima County 110 W Congress St, Tucson, AZ 85701 (520) 724-4200
Trial for Case 1 is set for 4 Days
Case: CR20121707
Judge: CHON-LOPEZ, JAVIER
Room: 478
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2015
Time: 1:30 pm Day 1 of 4
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2015
Time: 10:30 am Day 2 of 4
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2015
Time: 10:30 am Day 3 of 4
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015
Time: 10:30 am Day 4 of 4
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/in-defense-of-marijuana/Content?oid=5915630

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Posted by Marvin Catlin on 10/09/2015 at 10:45 PM

Re: “In Defense of Marijuana

The law is unfair, he was unjustly harassed. He has a toddler daughter that may someday need him and a relationship behind bars is nothing to be desired.

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Posted by me on 10/08/2015 at 8:39 PM

Re: “In Defense of Marijuana

Good luck brother. I'm praying for you and you know the support is there! I've known this family for many years and Kyle is legit. This is another last ditch effort on the state before 2016's signatures turn us into a legal use state. Obama is overturning long running drug convictions (with 18+ months left) because of the leniency that is now associated with medical and recreational marijuana. It makes me sad that we still waste tax dollars on useless charges trumped up in a situation where everyone but the state was benefiting (excluding the fact Kyle paid taxes). Godspeed brother. #fightforkyle

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Posted by D on 10/08/2015 at 7:59 AM

Re: “News21: America's Weed Rush

Very Informative. I believe that in a movement of monies as the article has shown the monies are there. It is a competition of interests all seem to have this " Socially Moral" mission. It concerns one that so much "Social Moral" monies being spent to guide administer represent the " Morale" way to go. However both sides want heavy police protections, licence fees tax and seizure monies to their budgets. So we see the Government doing these efforts in our favor.

Do wee need more of this by a Dept Of Marijuana ? Is the trust there a board Selected by the Governor and 3 people from the Marijuana industry what a freaking joke. The way of the money flow will be established and we can just add another layer.

VOTE NO ON "legalize like Alcohol" it is a Trojan Horse and it cant be undone with out another overriding prop. Some will tell you the rules can be easily changed to allow for market and health interests by the Marijuana Board. And we still have he budget driven Morally right thing to do. Once a board you cant vote them out, they are there civil service protections and administrative law and well hidden away from the public. Can you say CHA CHINK goes the bank accounts

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 10/08/2015 at 7:44 AM

Re: “In Defense of Marijuana

Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a verdict of "Not Guilty" despite its belief that the defendant is guilty of the violation charged. The jury in effect nullifies a law that it believes is either immoral or wrongly applied to the defendant whose fate they are charged with deciding.

Google it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=jury%20nullification...

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Posted by Marvin Catlin on 10/08/2015 at 12:28 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

Dave K Phoenix> Fantastic reading; It does give comfort then I see the monetary gain with the endorsement of the Regulate like Alcohol so I take it you support putting in the
"Arizona Liquor Control " rather than building a new police agency called the
"Marijuana Control Board". That is Immune from any oversight and will right rules willy nilly as it see fit for market control and tax collection? oh yea we have what is called a regulatory court system. This is the rub the " Regulatory Court and Judge only hear complaints several years later"

Legalize yes this proposed " Legalize Like Alcohol " Is nothing even close to Alcohol laws we have I believe it to be disingenuous to say other wise. If anyone have read the proposal it is a Trojan Horse of Jack booted heavy handed police seizures felony prosecutions Market limiting license cost prohibitive. Heck it wont be long till Monsanto don't care who does the point of sale they want the chemical cleat-ion and the Testing market. buys up with shill companies the whole of Arizona MMJ Market in one fell swoop they have the money and that eally what "Legalize Like Alcohol" is all about

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Posted by Carpet baggers on 10/04/2015 at 3:00 PM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

STOP LYING TO THE PEOPLE ABOUT LEGALIZATION AND REGULATION!!! To suggest that medical marijuana and legalization and regulation of marijuana is not having an effect on the cartels is a DAMNED lie perpetrated by Arizona prosecutors. Apparently they attended Arizona schools and are unable to read Time magazine:

"...the amount of one drug — marijuana — seems to have finally fallen. U.S. Border Patrol has been seizing steadily smaller quantities of the drug, from 2.5 million pounds in 2011 to 1.9 million pounds in 2014. Mexico’s army has noted an even steeper decline, confiscating 664 tons of cannabis in 2014, a drop of 32% compared to year before." Time Magazine, Ioan Grillo/Mexico City @ioangrillo April 8, 2015

"Narcotics police are an enormous, corrupt international bureaucracy ... and now fund a coterie of researchers who provide them with 'scientific support' ... fanatics who distort the legitimate research of others. ... The anti-marijuana campaign is a cancerous tissue of lies, undermining law enforcement, aggravating the drug problem, depriving the sick of needed help, and suckering well-intentioned conservatives and countless frightened parents."

-- William F. Buckley,

Commentary in The National Review, April 29, 1983, p. 495

To help stop the flow of drugs into Arizona, legalize and regulate like alcohol in 2016.

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Posted by Dave K, Phoenix, Az on 10/03/2015 at 6:29 PM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

In “the first large-scale [crash risk] study in the United States to include drugs other than alcohol,” NHTSA found that, once the data were adjusted for confounding variables, cannabis consumption was not associated with an increased probability of getting into an accident. This is one of the most comprehensive studies ever done on marijuana and driving done by an agency within the US Department of Transportation. Please review these results if you have any concerns whatsoever about marijuana and driving. Apparently it is almost as hard to find cannabis deaths due to driving as it is to find lethal overdoses of cannabis. The people of Arizona repealed one expensive and damaging prohibition, and we can do it again. Legalize and regulate like alcohol in 2016!

http://cloudfront-assets.reason.com/assets…

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Posted by Dave K, Phoenix, Az on 10/03/2015 at 6:27 PM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

"Arizona's system is a model for the rest of the nation" said Tom Salow. Do I have this right, this is the same people that wrote the first MMJ laws in Arizona. So now this groups touts the success in Colorado with retailing like Alcohol and want nothing of the kind in Arizona. Colorado uses it's Alcohol control board to monitor. Arizona has a Alcohol Control Board we don't need a Department of Marijuana. If we use Colorado as an example then use it's governing process we don't need to reinvent the wheel here with a new Department of Marijuana. talk about cloaked in secrecy.

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Posted by disguised as helpful on 10/01/2015 at 4:49 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

"Arizona's system is a model for the rest of the nation" said Tom Salow. Do I have this right, this is the same people that wrote the first MMJ laws in Arizona. So now this groups touts the success in Colorado with retailing like Alcohol and want nothing of the kind in Arizona. Colorado uses it's Alcohol control board to monitor. Arizona has a Alcohol Control Board we don't need a Department of Marijuana. If we use Colorado as an example then use it's governing process we don't need to reinvent the wheel here with a new Department of Marijuana. talk about cloaked in secrecy.

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Posted by Robert Ruckman on 10/01/2015 at 4:45 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

"Violence follows drugs, regardless of whether they are legal or not," he added. "The drugs have value ... and human lives don't to those who operate in the drug world."

This statement by Phoenix Police Department Commander Brent Vermeer must win some kind of prize for silliness.

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Posted by Bradson on 10/01/2015 at 3:45 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

Why is it always stated that Medical Marijuana "just barely passed" when it passed three times! BTW, the National Cancer Society just announced Cannabis kills cancer cells. Other benefits that have surfaced but never reported in Arizona news papers.

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Posted by Dennis Ambruso on 09/25/2015 at 10:20 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

Simply put these lottery winners that got into the marijuana business the ADA. They know and understand the market they have created under the guise of MMJ. They understand that the way they are doing business is subject to all kinds of scrutiny. So they would like to build a entity that can defend them and insulate them from abuse and scrutiny protect their market profit and tax collection. This is not good for AZ the people that use medical marijuana and the potential market to come.

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Posted by Disgusted with nondisclosure on 09/24/2015 at 10:08 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

Very informing information on the market now called " Arizona Medical Marijuana Program " I have been a card holder since the program began. The first doctor that wrote me a prescription was a Naturopathic she took time and learned my ailment. The following years it has been PHD's all needed my medical history prior to being considered for the treatment. However some of the dispensaries have bands playing food and a Naturopathic Doctor coming up to me and asking do you need a certification. It has turned into a subculture IMHO one that I embraced in the 1970's have since grown into part of society that like to profile others into progressive conservative liberal or whatever ever classification has arisen for the market of pushing pot.

I dont think the system works as intended and needs to be more refined into the actual needs of the medical community. It seems that the pot pushers understand this, and are afraid their market might dwindle to a respectable supply and distribution system. So the Dispensaries have gathered together into a association of pot pushers called the ADA "Arizona Dispensary Alliance" the ADA and law enforcement have gathered together hired a PAC called MPP. This is done for one thing only to try and limit who is in the market and who can join the Arizona market. It is simply supply and distribution
These associations that want to keep it as a " getting high" profit market with heavy tax. These association want to start a" Department of Marijuana Board " with unlimited authority over taxation distribution, testing, licensing, retail sales, grow shops, smoke shops, even internet sales. police seizure powers, prosecutorial powers. All of this would be then overseen by an administrative law Judge who simply ascertains if the law was inline with the concept of he law. With no rules in place there is no concept yet it will be a free for all to add whatever to the rule being made up and it then sets president and rule.

Can any one imagine a group of market profit driven pot pushing group with that much power? One thing to consider the AZ government polices and oversees just about 29% of the state the rest Indian reservations and federal lands. The monies collected from licensing and testing and whatever the bogus Dept of Pot board collected will go to protect these pot pushers market while throwing thousands in legal problems like there is a difference between a civil and a criminal when fine and seizures are taking place. simply this has grown from medical interest s to Market control for profit.

MPP's LEGALIZE LIKE ALCOHOL is a shame nothing like Alcohol. And the 40 million they promise to education that is .03% of the states budget for education. TUSD spends 64 million a year on attorneys to keep on retainer to see if the 1940's & 50's segregation civil suit is being administered and watched by the federal court. Yea a school district made up of 65% Hispanic enrollment is being forced into desegregation policies that discriminate against Hispanics 50 years ago. Once these groups get government funding there is no stopping them their sole purpose is to keep the agency going. WE dont need a "DEPARTMENT OF MARIJUANA" This is defeating to any kind of humanity or civil interests just profit and using the jack booted civil and criminal law to keep them pushing pot and collecting taxes.

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Posted by Carpet baggers on 09/24/2015 at 9:46 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

Going through this organization of Journalists it is easy to see it is a contrived set up of editorial tapestry give the impression of equal interests.

Take a minute and read the collective efforts of this sham ASU
" Walter Cronkite School. of Mass Media " Nothing more than a group paid for by the money interests of MPP and the ADA. Read this articular with objective thoughts they are not what they appear

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Posted by Carpet baggers on 09/18/2015 at 6:55 AM

Re: “News21: America’s Weed Rush

Here in Arizona there is very little oversight on growers caregivers or cultivators. AZDHS has little interest to govern this they look for revenue is all. People from Maine are here in AZ with Safer AZ talking about the MPP's sham proposed Ballot Imitative. This is a quote

"Caregivers in Maine are not inspected unless a complaint is made, according to Albert. To pursue a complaint, the Department of Health and Human Services contracts with investigators (typically retired police officers) through the Maine Sheriffs' Association to conduct what Noonan called "knock-and-talks." The investigators are sent to caregivers' grow sites and homes to determine whether they are compliant with the law."

And what MPP is proposing here is retired police with power to go after Smoke shop's, Horticultural business, Agricultural fertilizers, Retailers, Licensing, cultivating, taxing

,All done by retired police if if does not stink of improprieties nothing in AZ does. If you vote for MPP's proposal there is no REDO. You cant put the genie back in the bottle If anyone says changing the regulations is a redo is just full of their own smoke while they are blowing up the tail pipe

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Posted by Carpet Baggers on 09/17/2015 at 3:24 AM

Re: “In Defense of Marijuana

Hi Everyone, Thanks for ll the great responses, I understand there's a lot of Questions. I can help clarify any you may have :)

For the first comment from PaulAZ, if the state did not want people sharing grows they would have said so in the law, instead they left "36-2801.6. Definitions Enclosed, locked facility, means a closet, room, greenhouse or other enclosed area equipped with locks or other security devices that permit access only by a cardholder." Notice that it states cardholder, "36-2801.2. Cardholder, means a qualifying patient, a designated caregiver or a nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary agent who has been issued and possesses a valid registry identification card." If you noticed it does not state that the plants can only be accessible to the cardholder.

Bernice Penn, and DefenseforKyle, I don't have an account set up for it but can speak with Brick Storts about a fund incase we have to file for appeal.

Also Jed Bonnuduci the officers names are Officer Allen and Officer Droban, I hope your friends didn't lie to you about that. Neither Shawn Spencer or Burton Guster were involved that night nor can I find info stating that they were ever involved.

Any other questions and or misinformation just ask it on here and I will help :) Thank You All for supporting your local newspaper and Thanks to those that support me :)

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Posted by Kyle Catlin on 09/16/2015 at 8:28 PM

Re: “In Defense of Marijuana

He heard the police officer "lie" and say there was marijuana in jars at his home. The "psychic" police then found marijuana in jars at his home.

I know the officer. His name is Shawn Spencer. He and his partner, Burton Guster, would never lie. Although, Burton, or "Gus" to his friends, can do a mean Michael Jackson impression.

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Posted by Jed Bonnuduci on 09/16/2015 at 8:47 AM

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