These idiots would jail leaders like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson for doing what they did at Mount Vernon and Monticello. Not only would George and Thomas be in jail today for long sentences they would have forfeited both Mount Vernon and Monticello to the government under the RICO act. Both Jefferson and Washington traded seeds and plants with other farmers on a regular basis. Jefferson wrote of receiving hemp seedlings from someone in Missouri, and it would have been only neighborly to send some Virginia seedlings back. Chances are good that Washington did the same. Couple this with the fact that the two men tried to sell their hemp crops and we're obliged to conclude: Washington and Jefferson weren't merely marijuana farmers, they were marijuana dealers. In his diary for August 7, 1765, Washington writes, "Began to separate the Male from the Female hemp … rather too late." Female marijuana plants are the ones that contain enough THC to be worth smoking. Jefferson in his Farm Book wrote that a female plant would produce a quart of seed, and a bushel of seed was enough to plant an acre. Blatant racism and monetary greed were behind preventing farmers to grow one of the most incredibly versatile plants on the planet. Chemically polluted streams, deforestation, and overuse of insecticides and herbicides were what the American people received from those who outlawed this plant. It is time for Arizonans to use jury nullification to overcome Caitlin's problems.
Is it anyone's wonder why the AZDHS don't run a compliance officer of grows take sample for intoxicants run air samples basically do what the County Health Department does on food service. I would like to see the State keep records of Azadirachtin poisoning from NEEM oil for bugs. There are a host of other contaminates used in agriculture that should never be used as a consumable like Boron and trace minerals. And I don't see the Marijuana control board doing anything about it till the favorite child changes his grow and turns in the others. Which is most likely what happened in Caitlin case another Dispensary turned him in to get product confiscated and limited product to market. It would be a home run for anything blooming in the desert.
I agree with the first post in regard to being responsible for others grows and what they do with it. If a person wants to grow for 15 others in a collective garden. So now you have 15 others and friend in the grow area. It would be impossible to monitor and control product. When you climb into bed with LEO you better know where the bathroom and exits are. While I don't think prosecuting this young man is in community interests it is in LEO's view. And then so will go all the pseudo intellectual thinkers that are under the belief if they licence and tax they can sit at the same table of respect as LEO. All Marijuana users are fresh meat Arizona has always made Marijuana all you needed was an Arizona tax stamp but none were available since 1937 since the Harry Anslinger days and the beginning of the BNDD predates the DEA. However we have dispensaries that will dine at the LEO Table and think they have a place LMFAO.
I suspect anyone with half a critical mind understands the true narrative.
Big Pharma and Big Alcohol (and Big Fiber, but that's another letter) won't tolerate competition from an inexpensive, organic, zero-side effects, home-grown herb. These multi-billion dollar industries that subsidize campaign costs for their nominees (In the words Boss Tweed, "I don't care who does the electing, as long as I do the nominating.") get a multiple return on their investment: laws to lock up at taxpayer expense, for non-violent "crimes," the likes of Kyle Catlin.
You get what you subsidize. In this case, over-priced, if not gouging pharmaceuticals with grotesque side-effects, in many instances not worth the cure. And as for the neuron-destroying ethyl molecule, the less said the better.
By legislative policy (and we know who tells legislators what laws to enact) Catlin's otherwise innocent, benevolent actions are criminalized.
As we all know, the law can easily be turned into a _political weapon_. Well Catlin just got in its crosshairs. And the vast law enforcement bureaucracy, as intended, juggernauts merrily away. The well meaning, but sadly misguided, "low-hanging-fruit-arresters," law Nazis (oops! "Godwin slip") that seem to exist in just about every police department and the "should-know-better-after-seven-years-of-college" careerists in the office of the District Attorney just "follow orders"... Where have we heard that phrase before?
What a waste of taxpayer resources.
"rape and pilliage" !!!!
"The problem with some law enforcement is that they don't really know the (medical marijuana) law" ...
On the contrary, the cops "know the law" perfectly well; that's why they, and the prosecutors, and the judges, are so good at subverting and violating it.
The problem is "Protect and Serve" has become "Exploit, Control and Suppress".
read the article paulaz !!!
i was growing cannabis with a mmj card with growing rights that i paid money to the state to have before dispensarys were open,,, i was in complete compliance,,,, the police came to my house because of a domestic with my wife and made me pull my plants, i filed a lawsuit and now they are trying to say the police were right because it is against federal law,,,,, ???????,,,,,,, what kind of catch 22 bullshit is this ???????
This really sucks! This case is the 'poster child' for legalization.
If your only allowed 12 plants that is all you should have, growing for the other guy should be a no-no.
If anyone cares about the legalization. here is a link to a pro Phoenix Cannabis Coalition. They have some good views. In this Video of the 9/02/2015 meeting they say they have proof the Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a major contributor to MPP. Click and watch the video thanks.
as a footnote.
Growing inside under sodium light and CMH these require huge amounts of power and in such they require huge amounts of AC to control the cooling of the 1000 watt bulbs and ballasts. for the residential person to think they can pay the residential rate for power od these lights wont be feasible if product stays at $8.00 a gram top shelf max where is should be and still give a profit to a solid business model with supplemental lighting. When a person figures starting a grow operation with anything short of 600 amp (min) 3 phase power. That commercial power is half that of residential cost with no graduation of use costs. Transmission costs are picked by the residential user. It is very easy to bring in say a 1200 amp service ad step down the power with a transformer. Basically giving the commercial a 50% savings of cost and with a willing landlord can structure the cost to deferred to the landlord making it a tax deductible cost to the landlord and reduced cost to the grower.
LED's can be viable and MPP's proposal want to control all hydro and garden shops smoke shops. they want control of everything but responsible product to the market.
We live 10 degrees north of the tropic of cancer where the most powerful marijuana is grown world wide in a natural setting.. Arizona has the position to grow in a greenhouse and the Welton area of the state can grow enough for the whole southwest in a naturally controlled environment.
I can see the writing on the wall. Is it the outdoor growing or the distribution of it ? One needs the other thee outdoor illegal agriculture ventures only viable because they have a market to sell to. In California the state needs to step up and gain control but of the market and distribution as well.
Massachusetts is starting a Medical Marijuana System and like New York. These states which actually show interests of the product that is going out for the MMJ. No Smokeable plant product will be allowed only Oil for vapeing and Edibles. Medicine will only be dispensed through a pharmacy by a licensed pharmacist with knowledge of physiology and the plant product will be of a consistent quality with the correct Cannabinol's and terpenes to match the patient ailment. This is a MMJ program done with responsibility and concern for the medical aspects. With this kind of responsible government oversight the illegal grower will have less of a market wholesale available to them. I am sure that every product that come from a system like that will be assured quality
Has anyone every seen a consumer advocate for the quality and testing of the Arizona MMJ. I don't see anyone from the AZDHS MMJ program doing site inspections of fertilizers quality of product being sold product. In the consumer interests. AZDHS needs to implement a State Run Distribution system where all testing will be done at say 5 state owned locations around the state and sold to two markets one for medical and one for buzzing and getting high they are NOT THE SAME. These two vastly different interests into the plant have always been collectively looked at as one. This to me borders on criminal and supports and protects the criminal element and with this MPP Legalization push will sanction them like the Yakaza legal criminal element you see in Japan.
AZ has dropped the ball on MMJ and the way it is running it promote illegal growing on public lands. the Idea of Lighting HPS CMH Sodium to grow the Carbon footprint with that is fantastic. Then let alone driving all around town for specials give ways free grams if you write a favorable comment on one of the MMJ websites. If a reader want to really see the inside of AZ medical Marijuana open up a Leafy or Weedmaps product review. It will go something like this. Dude I stopped by on my way home from work picked up a 1/8 of Chocolope and its the Bomb had me buzzing and couch locked. Plus the Weed Tender is really hot and nice people too I say this is the best dispensary in town. sound like good medical advise to you ?
We don't need a department of Marijuana all it will do is protect this swill of lies and cheaters that want to become the enforcers of all control and the medical patient goes under the buss. this department will resemble the Middle East control governing people that grab power and strife is the result. MPP says they want a dept that will set rules just what are those.
I don't trust them just look at the track record of AZDHS MMJ program and the lottery winners that want to peddle pot.
Old man get a better doctor, and proof these dispensaries are not concerned about the medical aspects of Marijuana just the profit of it
This old man says, Arizona is way to costly and expensive for the average person.
When renewing your license it cost you $150.bucks to see a Doctor that looks 12 yrs. old and then have your picture taken. This is ridicules due to the fact it doesn't cost you to renew your drivers license. You shouldn't have to see a doctor who doesn't ask you really anything about your health. Once your disabled you're disabled nothing is going to change.....personally I think it's illegal to keep charging a person for the same thing over & over.
I guess it about time to start organizing my old friends in the Rancho Visto, Oro Valley, Green Valley, Del Web communities, We need to start picketing the dispensaries that support MMP's proposal. I haven't done this since 1967 and
"Hey Hey LBJ how many kids did you kill today with high altitude bombing" LBJ was the first not Nixon. I guess we could chant " Hey Hey MMJ Wont go away as we picket the dispensaries"
Let the police just try and handle these medical dependent in so many ways patients trying to keep their rights. It will make the news
All Marijuana sold in Arizona should come from a state owned testing lab. For quality pesticides even like Neme oil is not good ever see what happened to Neme oil when lit with butane from a lighter, I was in phoenix dispensary and listed with some of the fertilizers was boron like sprinkling Miracle Grow for bloom hardly a consumable but the Monies are for profit not the people. In order to increase bud size lets hit with Whey Silica tricantinol Trace minerals get the weight regardless of the impact it has on the consumer. And every dispensary I go to say they are in the business to help me LMFAO
Very informative story on the responsibility of states and the medical community to embrace cannabis therapies. I can only think of one place in Tucson that tries with sincerity to treat the ailment and the patient needs, That would be Tumble Weeds !
I wonder if anyone really knows the impact legalization that there charlatans (hmmm) dispensaries are running would have on medical. MPP's proposal would completely dismantle the MMJ concerns for favor of creating a monopoly that serves them completely.
Does anyone really think there would be an huge increase in Education? With the legislature controlling the purse they and defund one program and look from monies from the new MOB controlled Department of Marijuana.
I have a severe nerve condition that all my Doctors know about and watch the results. I cant express just how hard it is to acquire quality medication here in Tucson. As I am limited to not driving and asking others in my family for help. It is ridiculous to try and match medical needs to "HAPPY HOUR" PUNCH CARD, TEXTED SPECIALS, with a family needs demanding time. The competition between asking family member's and my 22 grandchildren comes first between Bullshit promotion and family needs.
MPP's proposal is not legalization it is putting those that profited before in power to tax and enforce NOT GOOD.
Here is even more reason and validation NOT vote for or endorse MPP's proposed initiative . As it now being allowed to publish studies that were not able because DEA classification as not value on schedule so any study cant be quaintly reviewed and published with the FDA.
This is a study on Cannabis and it's effect on diabetics Pima county is in an epidemic second most cases in the World next to Micro Indonesia.
It is a very sad day in the humanity, of the marketing control of MMJ. These dispensaries know the shame they are perpetuating on the medical community with their criminal pricing and advertising saying their non-profit. MPP would gut all medical put it in the realm of subcultures and charlatans. These Dispensaries bent on some kind of weird cultural movement to propel them to success by giving away tax collected to Police enforcement and HMMM Education. In order to do this the diabetic goes under the bus. So If this passes and you see that wheel chair bound amputated blind citizens. Just think You voted for this.
I will apologize for consecutive posts this will be the last.
I just realized that 40 million is about right. If you look at the original Welfare program it took 68% of the monies congress gave it to administer the system. This is counting board employees facility equipment and outside contractors to collect data to compile an understanding of the system and it's effectiveness. retirement and benefits. Then in the Clinton Administration this was streamlined cut benefits and shift administration over more to states in so many facets of the system.
So I would estimate by previous government bureaus the $40,000,000.00 estimate is an obtainable to mark it a success. All we need is the $120,000,000.00 to do it. Get rid of the medical patient like Thomas Jefferson said the increase of government is a equal loss of civil rights.
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