There is too much money in Marijuana to make it legal. Just look at the economic ripple it would cause right here in Tucson. Courts police counseling prisons illegal underground economy that needs to be to keep the ancillary enforcement dollars. These would all shrivel up and the Sheriff cant really seize and confiscate anymore. So that budget gets smaller. The defence attorney that make deals with prosecutorial plea bargains for tens of thousands of dollars charges to a impoverished family will be gone.
The dispensary will be gone as a medical implement of therapies will go the way of daily specials new MJ laced hot sauce and gummy bears. We need to protect these business as they are the ones with the cash register that the Dept.of Marijuana will oversee. With out dispensaries we wont have tax collection point of sale that gets turned over daily to the dept. AZ needs to keep illegal so not to allow Marijuana from other states or countries into this market. You can only grow for yourself 6 plants and a proposed licence fee TBD. All of these plants can be 12 feet tall and yield 2 pound of market product of flower. That's 24 pounds of marijuana you will be allowed to keep for yourself which is as much of a dream as making marijuana legal.
If / when congress changes the denotation and interstate commerce rules apply This Department of Marijuana will be obsolete with a huge bureaucracy in place that will have to be dismantled. A duplication of existing state departments that overlay already existing departments. A sick person whom can medically use marijuana will be able to order over the net and pay a sales tax like regular medicine.
It is the economic upheaval associated with legalizing marijuana that people are afraid of not the product. As far as children getting ahold of this. I had 5 kids and gave up furthering my employment or income bracket. Something had to be left out so many leave their kids for others to raise lots of free time on a child hands. I have seen kids sniffing gasoline huffing paint ripping beer selling whatever meth heck even Marigold seeds and nutmeg will get you high. All from 2 earner families with nice homes good educational opportunities if they had the background of a youth not just growing up in a day care and sent to camps. Yea Marijuana gets blamed for so much of our shortcomings.
I saw this too in Weedsday Wednesday the weekly internet call-in radio show broadcast @ 8am. We have to give a hand to the ladies for also promoting knowledge of the terms with cannabis.
Very informative on the medical aspects of cannabis therapies. They are not trying to compete with the alcohol society. Legalize like Alcohol is not their target group of therapy they take a more holistic approach.
A quick look at Tumbleweed reveals that their blog that does not link to or cite sources for any of their news postings. A pretty crappy site if they are stealing content and not crediting the authors for it...
Hey Dope is for Dopes, Ron Johnson runs a legal jewelry business. So you should learn the facts before running your mouth. You sound like a cop.
I noticed this article is taken verbatim from an article that appeared in my Tumbleweeds Health Center news feed. That article did not credit an author. Did you write it and they stole it or vice-versa?
With all this insightful information and the moral and intellectual facets that need to be seen and valued. Why would any thinking moral individual support MPP's and it pure market control ideology. A Washington DC based political action committee that is funded 75% by law enforcement like Joe Arpaio ? Of the 4.8 million budget they have for AZ 480,000.00 was contributed by industry the rest law enforcement and lawyers lobbing to keep a suppression going.
If this bogus legalize like alcohol prop is allowed and passed on the ballot. Now this is solely a states right's issue so the industry will run with impunity fold the medical into a police organization that is ill equipped or focused on any kind of medical just market control.
I would love to see a webinar debate by the two initiatives. I will bet 20 to 1 the punishment the enforcement the distribution licensee money for education yada yada yada yada before any medical issues will be addressed yea I don't trust Phoenix sorry Dave K, more than once burnt
"From a pharmacological perspective, cannabinoids are considerably safer than opioids and have broad applicability in palliative care. Had cannabis not been removed from our pharmacopoeia 7 decades ago and remained available to treat chronic pain, potentially thousands of lives that have been lost to opioid toxicity could have been prevented."
"The medicinal cannabis user should not be considered a criminal in any state and the DEA and our legal system should be using science and logic as the basis of policy making rather than political or societal bias."
[Carter et al. Cannabis in palliative medicine: improving care and reducing opioid-related morbidity. Am J Hosp Palliat Care. 2011.]
For many who use this plant as medicine, cannabis is not about “getting high.” Rather, it is at the end of a long list of medicines that have been tried but did not work. It is uncivilized, immoral, and barbaric to keep medicine from another who benefits from its use. Most who use cannabis do experience a “high” initially when using cannabis but are not bothered by these effects as they become accustomed to them.
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) the use of cannabis does not result in a significant increase in traffic accidents. Please review these results if you have any concerns whatsoever about marijuana and driving. Apparently it is almost as hard to find cannabis deaths due to driving as it is to find lethal overdoses of cannabis. The people repealed one expensive and damaging prohibition, and we can do it again. Legalize and regulate like alcohol in 2016!
You cannot do "mail order" marijuana- that is against federal law.
I invested in a domain name from http://marijuananames.org - I figured I might as well try and make a buck off of legal weed as well!
Not a word about what is best for the patients. AZ has turned this program into a "cash cow".
No control or regulation over inspection and certification of product purchased. That is like the FDA saying , here take this medicine. I don't know what is in it, but just take it.
How does that serve patients? Get a grip AZ. Control this program. Regulate and certify all products for sell under this program.
For those that advocate full legalization, what criteria will be used for conviction of DUI.
What will be an honest tax for this. Not 24% like Colorado.
Think about it Arizona.
If anyone really has an interest in this take a moment and watch SAFER AZ They like Ralph Nader are grassroots consumer advocates. http://saferarizona.com/
They too want a Department of Marijuana which I am against. It is not that unique of a material that it would require overlapping long established State Departments of Agriculture,Commerce, Health Welfare, Revenue, Enforcement, Prosecution, Licensing, Educational properties though the University system.
It seems that so Much has changed in culture in acceptance. In religion we see Pope Francis doing the unheard of washing the feet of a teenage girl in juvenile detention for Easter instead of the Bishops that has been the way in the past. To purge out the establish practice that allowed for abuse and concealment to the best of his ability truely a different time we are in. There are still opponents in the Vatican that oppose the action of Pope Francis. He has let them defend themselves and their actions as they dwindle in numbers. Pope Francis understands it is the populace that make the faith and power to the church not the the Church itself. Detroit has a majority Muslim City Council and the established constabulary is worried about that.
So now we are approaching legalizing Marijuana or the delusion of legalization. We are going to be ask and conjoiled into a panacea of freedom to partake. We all know really that in a short time there will be a regimented therapy for giving Marijuana in a medical setting. This will not include any kind of smoke therapy it will all be FDA certified growers and labs and processing under the rule of pharmacology standards. It will be an oil edible vaped some vehicle of consumable that controls amount and duration of effect. This will be way out of the a realm of a Marijuana dispensary and right into a Pharmacy. Leaving the Dispensaries a recreational and unconventional medical market. When the federal government forces the DEA to change the schedule rating it is a different story.
So we are being ask to change the constitution of the State of Arizona to allow for the formation of a" Department of Marijuana". This is being billed as progress where if your read the proposition the populace is giving up so much for the establishment of the CHURCH the " Department of Marijuana" that will have no oversight on rule making and be immune from it till 2022. Basically setting the distribution and retail of marijuana collecting taxes to control markets prices distribution. this is a constitutional amendment it cant be redone easily and little judicial or legislative oversight till 2022 and then it will have to go to review. Lets talk about the the interests that are funding the movement the PVI (police and vested interests) they are a financial minority telling us they are defending the populace we just don't know how yet as they have done such a fantastic job in the past lets just keep it going huh.
This will mostly be border states countries illegal and legal competition for the marijuana dollar and building a constabulary to enforce the arbitrary regulatory laws that will be in conflict of intrastate regulations 14th amendment of equal protection when collecting a tax dollar the product that paid that tax and be denied use in a municipality basis. All of the monies collected will go to protect a select few a Oligarchy
While so much has changed has it really do you see the truth here I guess some things never change
Sally; Mr. Aari Ruben is correct in it will help. If you find the right therapist that will grow and maintain a supply for you and not a cure all hybrid blend. That's the Achilles Heel to the whole process is consistency and the reliability if it. To be given the correct dose given a mirade of factors I am not a therapist. I have yet to see a dispensary that is or have on site. So it leave up to oils and edibles for treatment this is a healthier form of therapy and if a card holder has to the correct doctor this was implied and why when getting the card. This is another reason to go with these products but they are not dispensed at a reasonable cost availability or consistency.
With MPP's proposal this "Department Of Marijuana" would oversee the medical aspects of Marijuana in time given the transition time needed to take over from AZDHS. This would be the same as the DEA setting schedules of drugs on a national scale but local for Marijuana and related therapies. Their would be no redress to medical issue rule making till it was brought up infront of the board. The Board then would take it into consideration and pass a ruling what in 2 weeks 2 years? If a person holding a license of some kind can appeal the slowness of the board or the decision. that has to go to an Administrative Judge and wait for a decision another how long.
Do you understand if you had a seizure petit or gran was at a relatives friends house a town that had an ordinance against it or were with relatives in reclusive parking lot and the driver helped you medicate you could be guilty of a crime? However if you walked across the street it would be ok.
This Board would have the exclusive autonomy of which vendors they would allow to sell products for Medical (stinks). The board would chose which intellectual professionals they will contract and which standard they will adopt. It will be up the the Board on which studies they will adopt and use to set and change rules by. It will be up to the board to determine how many Licenses they will allow for growing and what liability protection they will instill into the license. This alone like raising the minimum req for liability on car insurance. The board could simply say to much is getting into the illegal market and raise the requirement culling 50% or better of current license holders. The only legal redress is the first review by the board than again a appeal to the Admin judge 3 years later their gone leaving just the rich few that can afford to political representation. The board will go out and look for a test data on fertilizers and testing procedures on organic agricultural material. When we already have a Department of Agriculture 1000% more qualified than anything a Public Admin might put out to bid (stinks)
The real clincher is the head of the Depart of Marijuana has to have held a public administration Position for 10 years or better (police) someone focused on revenue enforcement license. And then the real payday !!!!! License fees and intellectual properties for Medical can you say Cah Chink!!! all because grandma the impaired relative cant afford to pay and will be thrown if they plant a seed,. Is this Progressive?
I was diagnosed in 1962 at the ripe age of six months. Most of the drugs I've taken to control my seizures are either no longer on the market or are no longer used for Epilepsy. I tried Epilepsy surgery in "89 but continue to have seizures. Would I like to try hemp to see if it helps? You bet I would! Is it affordable when you're on disability? NO. I'm glad it's available for some, but the state has to remember that most people on disability can't come close to the prices (because of the taxes) because we're in deep poverty. Unless someone goes to the governor's office and has a full blown Grand Mal in front of him the cost isn't going to change.
Mr Ari Ruben pleas except my humble and embarrassing apologies for misspelling of you name
Joe Arpaio is the biggest funder of MPPs' initiative in AZ. Right now the MCSO is diligently busting confiscating finding as much as the can on an enhanced campaign to fund giving monies to MPP. Then at the same time promoting it's use in the retirement communities with MOM FORCE AZ. MCSO needs this Marijuana Control Board as a slush fund bank after all whom do you think is going to head the board staff the board ????? really
Mr Rubin Aries;
Some interesting and thoughtful ideas on the useable qualities of Cannabis. I have epilepsy in the family my siblings went through a regiment of phenobarbital my son through Tegretol. I have had the realities of prejudice and exclusion for reason attributed to Epilepsy. As well as growing in rural southern Utah with a Jewish father and a Black Grandmother I also understand ostracization from society and social accords of the areas I lived in. I was first incarcerated for possession 10 grams maybe. In Texas getting out of the service FtPolk hitchhiking home did 60 days on a chain gang picking sugar beets and cotton work. Had to fight off.... that was what I was thrown into and that will still be the ultimate leverage behind MPP's proposal if you could only spend a day.
I do believe you have sincerity in your understanding and approach. It is also my belief it has been a long life consuming struggle for so many for so long. Some believe this is the pinnacle of success the ultimate triumph. I have strong reservations basically the rule making and the structure of the Marijuana Control Board.
As you know the 25 mile law was a rule implemented in the rule making and a huge form on contest to it. How it was put into rule then into administrative law. By the time the Superior Court need clarification it went ti Admin then Appellate court 2 1/2 years later. Basically out of each of the average patient or consumer. It is this kind of action that is very concerned to me and to others that would torpedo MPP's initiative. We see where it would allow for some municipalities and county or governing agency to prohibit use consumption sales and growing. Violation of 14th amendment of equal protection for a now clarified minority Cannabis user they can pay taxes in that town but not smoke ???? really and punishable by what fines jail for ordinance violation?
As we seen the initiative being drawn up the license fees for growing, processing, distributing, testing, sales, were prohibitive for the small local entrepreneur. Basically leaving it up to better financed resourceful business affiliated with existing MMJ industry nationally. This could very easily become an oligarchy as is what happened in AZ when prohibition on Alcohol was was lifted with the 21st amendment. Arizona's first and only billionaire Kemper Marley notorious link to mafia and illegal gambling and the Don Bolles bombing murder. It is not even worth while going into the prosecutorial police mistreatment of the laws and the rights of Arizona citizens after all the Miranda decision was abou AZ.
All that aside let just get a look at the medical aspects. It wont be long till the medical community comes up with a regimented cannabis treatment covered by insurance. These will only be dispensed through licensed Pharmacies with licensed technicians. There will be no smoke of any kind to medical therapy there is no way one can rely on amount of consumption or residual components possible carcinogens and related effect of propane or what ever flame source. Changing the whole distribution system POS license to just recreational. Anything else would be considered over the counter remedy and not covered by any remediation of legal considerations already given in the current MMJ law.
Basically Mr Aries. I don't begrudge your endeavor or efforts your right to entrepreneurial success. I feel that by opposing MPP proposal I am fighting for your interests as well. Just how can you ask someone to give up what they have for what they might get. We have seen it in the tobacco tax the lottery the gaming just how deep is the well of licensed sin as some would have it go?
IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE RULE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR VOTING FOR!
NIDA, the US Dept of Health, and the US National Cancer Institute ALL agree that this plant kills cancer (as such it is clearly a medicine, for those of you in the DEA). Take a minute and sign the petition to force the director of the DEA (Chuck Rosenburg) to resign for his outrageous statements declaring that marijuana is not medicine. If this disingenuous imbecile cannot play with the rest of the team he should stop trying to do the jobs of those far more qualified than he, and resign!
In reflection of this slight encumberment. There several ways to pay obligations wont go into that. Just just pondering the proposed "MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD" by the mpp initiative. Would this mean that the board would set up its own BANK since being denied access to national banks mentioned here ? It appears that is the case to me reading the proposal on how they disperse funds. The proposal is very precise on how to collect and disburse monies just not on how to make rules yet. The writing is on the wall I would soon be looking investment monies cronies and the paper trail wont be there.
Hey JR, Karma is a bitch the Mexican police appreciated your 10k for being an idiot ....... Any time you want to find me ..... I will accommodate your wish and meet you eye to eye..... name the place and time..... if you really believe you are man enough. You have a big mouth and no balls.... it is easy for you to make false accusations and hide behind a computer keyboard. I would be happy in travelling to Rocky Point to settle this matter man to man... but everyone knows you will have a lame excuse and write more untrue bullshit rather than taking me up on my offer to meet up with you.
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