In the statement made here the Arrests for marijuana. We need to look at arrests for simple posession which is what prop 205 is about. Not about marijuana being present during other crimes and just an associate charge to force a plea bargain.
With prop 205 there are more felonies now associated with marijuana. Like Cold Water hash extraction would be a class 4 felony if 205 passed.
With each arrest then there is arrested and charged is not convicted. That would be a more accurate representation of how the Marijuana laws are enforced.
TASC a bogus drug counseling service contracted to do drug intervention for and to report the court. IF found guilty first time offences sometime and most the time a fine and away you go. If court ordered Drug Intervention program it's not working and never has. This is still being sponsored by 205 I dont see why all drug dependency cost Alcohol, tobacco, prescriptions, all the illicit chemical drugs have to be paid for off the Recreational Marijuana and throwing the Medical to the curb.
What a pant load of tying population control in Central and South America to Nixon's War on Drugs.
While not a sole will support this war. However the powers forcing recreational marketing of marijuana are giving some very false information out.
We have a congressman telling Arizona what to do withinside the state. Whereas that action championing the Federal classification is void from his federal responsibility. He wants to front for the Oregonian producers that will provide a multitude of products. basically stifling Arizona.
I have been to Oregon seen their recreational operation, However this Congressman has no understanding of the way Arizona want to frame this special Department. Why are we paying through a PAC like MPP to pay travel and office contributions for an Organian Congressman to come here, is the work all done in Oregon?
I see support inside my elderly community however not for 205. In my weekly card bridge and canasta games and saturday golf. The word is getting out I had an edible while out at San Ignacio Golf Club. Grandma gave it to me one patient to another with the promise to get the word out NO on 205
listen for yourself done by a marijuana activist in Tucson.
If you care to take about 45 minutes this is a great listen through of the final wording of the proposition. On your phone, on your wireless, while you're driving, sitting at Starbucks it seemed others wanted me to turn it up. I was having breakfast on the patio @ Marana Del Rey became to focus of about 15 around us.
This is the grass roots that grew into the Medical Marijuana and part grassroots that went to court to force it to be implemented. These People At Tumbleweeds serve a responsible community service in education in compassion. Grew in Tucson to be foundation of medical education care. Early on TumbleWeeds supplied patients, I recall every visit was a review of my ailment.
Times have changed, the market has changed, Incipient greed has not it still infests. While we all depend on growth, control of supply is not growth. So many publications are clamoring for advertizing dollars they are falling all over themselves to be the server to the public in print. With a simple legislative amendment no advertizing that would support a federal crime in facilitating to support. They just did it with attorneys.
@Nick Meyers: it was in 1492 that Columbus sailed the ocean blue, not 1442. Friends don't let friends toke and type.
@Francis Saitta: When you say that today's marijuana is not like the marijuana of the 70s and 80s, you are not talking about medical marijuana. You are talking about high-THC strains like "skunk." Comparing all the hundreds of marijuana strains available today to skunk is like comparing all chile peppers to habaneros, or comparing Coors to absinthe. Many medical marijuana users prefer strains that are actually lower in THC and higher in CBD. Such strains are less likely to produce potent psychoactive effects and more likely to engender pain relief. High-THC strains don't really do a whole lot for pain, as far as I know. I interact with people with chronic illnesses on a daily basis, particularly painful connective tissue disorders. Not all of them use marijuana, but the ones who do prefer the high-CBD low-THC strains that allow them to go about their day and function relatively normally while keeping their pain at a minimum. These patients do not want to be spaced out or "dazed and confused" all day. They want to lead healthier, more normal lives, and they feel that the appropriate strains of medical marijuana help them do that.
The FDA has approved Marinol, which is a marijuana derivative. The FDA has no jurisdiction over herbal medicines in general--this is why you can walk into Whole Foods and buy valerian or dandelion root or St. John's wort over the counter--and in any case they will not be able to approve marijuana as long as the DEA keeps marijuana at Schedule I status. If the DEA could be persuaded to recognize some of marijuana's medical benefits and downgrade it to Schedule II, then perhaps things might be different.
I understand your concern about users deciding to drop out of life and stay stoned all the time, but you could say the same of liquor, and our efforts at prohibiting that resulted in disaster. Note that, in all states where recreational marijuana use has been legalized, you have to be over 21 to buy it, and public use is usually illegal.
The "Medical Marijuana" of today is NOT like the Marijuana used in the 70's and 80's. Through Artificial Selection Experiments, strains of Marijuana have been developed by the Marijuana Drug Industry that substantially increase the potency of the Drug. As such, its' use poses serious potential consequences.
Marijuana of today is a Very Potent and Dangerous Drug!!!
Marijuana pipe found in car of driver charged in crash that killed Ann Day
Carmen Duarte Arizona Daily Star May 12, 2016.
Fatal road crashes involving marijuana double after state legalizes drug
Science News, May 10, 2016. Source: AAA
Summary: Fatal crashes involving drivers who recently used marijuana doubled in Washington after the state legalized the drug, according to the latest research. New research also shows that legal limits for marijuana and driving are arbitrary and unsupported by science, which could result in unsafe motorists going free and others being wrongfully convicted for impaired driving.
Marijuana pipe found in car of driver charged in crash that killed Ann Day"; Carmen Duarte Arizona Daily Star May 12, 2016
Fatal road crashes involving marijuana double after state legalizes drug: Science News, May 10, 2016
This Drug is effective in treating some medical conditions; Muscle spasms caused by multiple sclerosis, Nausea from cancer chemotherapy, Poor appetite and weight loss caused by chronic illness, such as HIV, or nerve pain, Seizure disorders (childhood epilepsy), and Crohn's disease. Purified extracts from whole-plant marijuana can slow the growth of cancer cells from one of the most serious types of brain tumors.
Research in mice showed that treatment with purified extracts of THC and CBD, when used with radiation, increased the cancer-killing effects of the radiation (Scott KA, Dalgleish AG, Liu WM. The combination of cannabidiol and ?9-tetrahydrocannabinol enhances the anticancer effects of radiation in an orthotopic murine glioma model. Mol Cancer Ther. 2014;13(12):2955-67.)
Scientists are also conducting preclinical and clinical trials with marijuana and its extracts to treat numerous diseases and conditions, such as the following:
1. Autoimmune diseases (diseases that weaken the immune system): HIV/AIDS, multiple sclerosis (MS), which causes gradual loss of muscle control
2. Alzheimers disease, which causes loss of brain function, affecting memory, thinking, and behavior
6.Substance use disorders
The FDA has not recognized or approved the marijuana plant as medicine.
The Medical Marijuana Program in Arizona is a Big-Money-Making SCAM supported by the Marijuana Drug Industry and their Supporters in the Arizona Legislature!
Marijuana use for Medical purpose should be supported by Scientific evidence, including Clinical Trials, and regulated by the FDA; closely monitored by the tending Physician and State Department of Health."Medical Marijuana" should be available by Prescription only (in a Pharmacy) issued by a License Physician.
Congress should amend the Controlled Substances Act of 1970: Controlled Substances Act (CSA) (21 U.S.C. 811). making Marijuana available for Medical Treatment.
The major consumers of this Drug, if legalized for so-called recreational purposes, will be the younger generation; destroying the very fabric/future of our Democracy.
This Drug should NOT be legalized for recreational purposes!!!
That was not an encouragement for PAYDAY LOANS
It is a comparison as it as the same social impact the one least can afford pay the most.
These people are charlatans only here to extract as much out as the society will allow. The question is do we vote for unknown scary or the bird in the hand. Nothing can change in this prop if passed without voter state constitutional approval. With all the tax collecting campaigning against fair market department what can and will change.
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In fact, I started out against it because of things I didn't like, and then I realized, if not this, nothing. There will be no way to fix it if there is no yes on Prop 205. There will be no marijuana legalization and the cartels will celebrate. We take a step and Bernie has taught us this, we are strong, we are growing, we are heading for Independent Progressives 2020, and this is just another step in changing the trend of Koch and ALEC writing outrageous bills to protect their oil and coal in Arizona, their charter schools and their infringement on universities with big donations to guide which professors they want in place. It's time to move forward and it's time to approve legalization of marijuana, as imperfect as it is. Payday loans are killers of the poor, which is why we voted to stop them and fought off Brewer as she tried to reverse that decision. Now they have crept back as title and deed loans which are costing people their homes and cars. Why would you even want to encourage that!
Get a clue it is not IF, Marijuana should be legalized
The opposition is HOW, it should be legalized 205 is not it
Washington tax rate is 15% paid by distributor + license fees to producers and processors and testers 10%. So if 100 paid by the retailer to sell the product he applies another additional sales tax of WA state average 11% all added up this equated to the product point of sale being 47%
With tax rates like this the DMLC will have a self fulfilling prophecy of it's value>>> to fight the very demon it supplies a vicious cycle.
We have been riding this tumultuous cycle of enforcement, protect the children, diatribe of false protection. Only to embrace it as value with prop 205
Cartel will soon go to all oils and edibles counterfeit packaging. Thanks to the dispensaries shatter smokable are for just getting high little medical value, almost all of the edible could be easily replaced with an oil. I really hate paying 45% tax on infused hot sauce or hippy dippy infused drink.
This whole proposal was written by dispensaries that have known for years that the Medical aspects of the operation was open to medical scrutiny and would not pass the tests.
So Dispensaries have opted to throw the medical aspects aside to supplying the addicted diminished capacity boon party recreational people while isolating market availability with heavy police enforcement.
This has heavy handed Governmental administrative panacea was written all over it. This is christmas a board of three really the other 4 members are just there to represent the people but dont have a vote LMFAO.
What a travesty has been done on the voter initiatives with this prop 205 this is really no different than saving payday loans.
With their charlatan slick marketing on how we helped so many families in that time of emergency need for monies.
One is to think if payday loans gave so much of what they collected to schools the 35% added interest would be helpful to the children.
The first time I saw a 'No On Prop 205' ad I was amazed at the out and out lying in it. It doesn't take much to debunk everything in it. 5 minutes on google should be plenty. But then, this is USA 2016 and many will buy it lock stock and barrel. Sad.
I accept ADRP as an ally in the trenches of deceit and crony capitalism. This proposed "Department of Marijuana and Controls" is the devil incarnate.
There is so much to be written into the proposal no one has the slightest clue of whats to come of this. Price fixing self investigative, self disciplined, self overseen, Allowed to tax and lien personal assets acting as a government within itself. Peace Officer credentials and powers as well as court.
Whenever I hear of people around me talking about this I know I am looking at one of the stupidest people in Tucson complete and utter ignorance of the world around them
^ This is pure speculation. Nowhere in the prop does it say that this is how sales of clones will go. Why would live plant material be sold any differently than dead plant material? Keep spreading your fear to those too dumb or lazy to read the whole prop. I never thought I'd see the day when real life cannabis consumers would get in bed with big pharma, the gambling and alcohol industies and the far right moral crusaders against a reasonable regulation policy.
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Pros and cons and details don't matter. If this MJ thing passes, then the "public servants" in Phoenix will do what they want anyway: delay, drag out processes, create red tape, somehow make it unworkable, find a way to penalize anyway, and then blame someone else. Don't worry about the citizens, it is Money that will get wasted.
Does anyone understand that the Arizona supreme court recently ruled that a Attorney in Arizona with good standing can not counsel anyone in the state on Marijuana Laws.
Yes that is right >> Do you get what this means mindless minions???
If an Attorney counseled a client on how to legally obtain Marijuana in any fashion even legal bought . Then is guilty of facilitation to commit a federal crime and can be disbarred.
What that really means any attorney won't be able to challenge any of the rules or standards concerning the consumer as it would be in the aspect of obtaining a federally controlled substance. You just sold the farm Grandma.
All things considered Arizona's proposal 205 is not even close to equating with other states. A complete and utter misunderstanding of this ridiculous proposal.
I call into question the writer's integrity to even imply that Arizona's proposal a comparison to Colorado's Department of Revenue running the marijuana program. It is overseen by the legislature in Arizona there will be no oversight just court challenges till parameters worked out. Which is a shit way to govern build a police and court system then apply or reduce depending by need of what Money, Market, Counseling, Policing, so who gains and who loses in the midterm and the long run the consumer? Education really what a ship of fools.
That's fine if that were all this ballot proposition covered. Put down the pipe and read it.
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