"The fact that Bernie made as good a showing as he did, and was willing to take the high road when the revelations came out, means the Democratic Party has to take his influence seriously." TDB
Really? The Democratic Party, and pointedly the DNC, have proven they are the black hole of the political universe. They will suck up all energy and continue on as nothing has really happened. Working against a party candidate? No problem? Thinly veiled anti-semitic/anti-atheist plots to derail the candidate? No problem.
Watching Sanders kowtow to the party, a party he had never been a member of til this election, was disgusting. He should have walked out with his supporters. These people who trusted him and worked their butts off in his campaign have every right to be turned off to politics ... and to sit this one out or vote their consciences.
I'm with you on this one, MH. My first election-& the last time I voted third party-was the 1980 Presidential. Of course, even if all third-party votes had gone to Carter, that bad actor who wound up in the White House for eight years would still have done so. All the same, I learned all about wasting my vote then (never mind how much better Carter looks in hindsight). & Who else remembers the Nader fiasco?
The fact that Bernie made as good a showing as he did, and was willing to take the high road when the revelations came out, means the Democratic Party has to take his influence seriously. Meanwhile, any vote not for Hillary will just get p!$$ed away, and make it that much more likely we'll get a textbook fascist for president (hopefully, checks-&-balances would keep him from some of the more egregious parts of his agenda, but not without a lot of damage & wasted energy).
It's very socialist. They're required to help you. Without ANY kind of socialism, you would be completely on your own.
I'm glad you've lived...and (hopefully) learned.
I don't begrudge your choice, Mari--each to her own voting strategy, in this grand democratic experiment, and so on--but please don't fool yourself. If Billary Clinton fails to win this election, it will have nothing whatsoever to do with Bernie Sanders or anyone voting Green. She will fail on her own merits, or lack thereof.
If she fails to defeat one of the most ignorant, absurd, untruthful, embarrassing, unqualified, and downright dangerous presidential candidates in history--unbelievable as it may seem, but it could very well happen--it would be because she has utterly squandered her credibility. For many years she has been nothing more than a garden-variety politician who happens to be married to a former president, tacking back and forth with the winds of change and changing her tune whenever it suited the moment. She has consistently and earnestly played to Republican themes while pretending to be a liberal, courted the wealthy and powerful while pretending to stand for the underprivileged, and betrayed her base and the principles of her supposedly liberal party in the process. That strategy was birthed by her husband and his DNC, to the ruin of the Democratic Party and progressive change, and she has embraced it enthusiastically.
People are totally fed up with it--so fed up that they're desperately grasping for a psychotic ignoramus just because he sounds different. If she cannot beat the psychotic ignoramus--and I mean soundly beat him, send him back to his Tower with his tiny tail between his legs--she does not deserve to be president. No amount of ill-conceived, third-party blaming can change that.
Clinton Campaign Failed To Act.
Sounds just like Benghazi. But this time it's just political careers that are dying. Thankfully.
Always enjoy sgsmith's posts - but maybe could you please use the enter key to break up your prose into paragraphs?
"Bernie Sanders is not going to be president. Neither are the two third-party candidates. I'm voting for Clinton."
Well then... that settles that!
Thanks AZ/DC it is my keyboard. I now have a $10,000 deductible for my healthcare after Obama destroyed my old one. Have to live with a outdated keyboard and strokes as they happen.
What makes you think that for profit emergency rooms at for profit hospitals are a socialist thing?
You obviously don't understand socialism. I wonder if you really even care about me.
Appropriate to call upon Shakespeare as this tragedy continues to unfold. Thanks
Now that we’ve seen 24/7 coverage of both major party conventions and suffered through “the tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing” foisted on us by the parties, candidates and media, perhaps it is high time that a grassroots effort were made to create a third party that actually represents the American people and not just the fringes of the political spectrum. For now, let’s call it the American Party. The platform of the American Party is formed by a commitment to a global-competitive level of free public education for all Americans with a focus on building character, ethics, leadership and imagination for the betterment of all people and not just those who pay to play and have privilege based on wealth, power and racial heritage; next, restoring and maintaining the Middle Class because nations with a healthy and vital middle class are stronger for everyone – by building a new and better infrastructure that is environmentally sound with a return of manufacturing in the United States and creation of well-paying skilled labor – the Middle Class will be the backbone of our nation; and lastly, by returning all levels of government to the basic reasons they were created in the first place – to maintain public services that allow for the safety, security and well-being of the populations they serve – not the out-sourcing, buck-passing, political pigs at the money trough filled by special interests and dark money brokers intent on wealth and power at the expense of all else that we have today. If we are ever going to take back our country, we had better do it soon because this election cycle has clearly demonstrated that there isn’t much time left before the only options are more-of-the-same and bat sha@t crazy – oh, wait….
Today: Pigs Meet Trough
As Democratic candidates run, sweating in the Philadelphia heat, to the now unleashed money handlers, all rhetoric concerning campaign reform is tossed like confetti. It is a convention after all.
"I hope the DNC rethinks their strategy." Strong words there.
Right. Guess what Mari, the DNC has now been vindicated, the fix is in and no amount of malfeasance on its part will be criticized by the party. As long as the preferred, pre-selected candidate wins. The economy is rigged, the presidential campaign is rigged, so yes, it only makes sense to vote for Hillary Clinton.
In Bizarro World.
Oh, silly me.
Don't bother to contact emergency services, that's a socialist thing.
Let's hope you can make it to the hospital on your own and let's hope that you have a very ample bank account.
Are you having a problem with your keyboard or are you having a stroke?
I hope that you or a loved one has contacted emergency services if it's not the keyboard.
Mari, after reading your voting strategy I came to the conclusion that it is the definition of insanity. You may not fear Muslims, but after thousands have been murdered by radicals, our NATO members like France and Germany may be looking to deport Syrian refugees.
Now the Democrats appear anti police.
Canada wouldn't have you.
A vote for Hillary is a knife in Bernied back. We can never achieve socialist utopia with the queen of wall street.
It's always funny when far-left liberals show up every 4 years and cry about the presidential candidate. It's like, where were you the last 3 elections when Democrats were losing Congress and the Senate to Republicans? Or the statehouse? etc., etc.
When the Green Party can win a single state-wide election, I'll pay attention. When Bernie-Democrats can win a plurality of state-house seats in a single state, you'll have something to talk about. Until then, keep your heads down and work.
While Bernie was being a pure independent all those years, Hillary was working hard for the Democratic party, taking the endless slings and arrows of the Republicans for him. Now they all turn on her for not being their pure savior. Bah humbug
Canada still sounds like your best option. You can't comprehend the difference between test and strength. That's exactly what iscdraggingbthis countryvdown. Indecision and poor decisions. Hillary and Bull have enriched themselves on this countries good will and ignorance. So that's your vote? Even Bernie fell for it.
30-40 UNARMED black men, I apologize for the mistake. My source is the same as yours. In 2015 there were 38 unarmed black men shot and killed by police, so far this year there are 19.
Those other 100+ you want to add to the mix were ARMED at the time they were shot. Even amongst the unarmed men, most were shot after being tazed and continuing to attack officers or were going for the officers guns. GO read the reports, I did. A few more are tragic accidents and then, what's left? Maybe a handful of cases that amount to a bias or abuse of power by the police, and that is for the Justice Department to investigate, you know, the department headed by an incredible competent black woman who was nominated by a black president!
And meanwhile thousands of young black men are going to be murdered by other young black men.
Police officers are judged both by their badge and their race, the combination of the two can be lethal as we have seen in Dallas and Baton Rouge. To many of these people white cops are the 'devil' and black officers are 'Uncle Toms' or 'house *******'. Stereotypes and tropes that rob communities of the power to fix themselves by externalizing their issues are incredibly damaging for all of us in this society. The trope of the racist and abusive police officers hunting young black men is a most dangerous one and is one of the biggest threats to the futures of all Americans, not just the black men who are dying because of it.
How may more black men have to die before people like you realize that the police are a part of the solution and are not the problem?
"The myth of police hunting black men is as racist a trope as there ever was and only continues the subjugation of black men and women by avoiding the real issues within the community."
"There is racial/bigoted violence directed at police officers every day in some of these communities. "
are you trying to say that stereotypes and prejudice towards police is a form of racism, as if police officers are a race
" There will be about 30-40 black men killed by police this year whereas there will be about 4000+ black men murdered by other black men this year."
where did you get these obscene numbers
there have already been 146 black people killed by police this year http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-inte…
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